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Well, I follow politics of the whole world, but I don't vote, simply because I disagree with the system. I know what I do isn't exactly right, but it's better than voting like most people do, to the most popular and such..Quote:
Originally Posted by dewilliams2 [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
What works my nerve the very most is when people spout opinions and then they don't vote.
I'm afraid I do that, but I'm not going to vote to people I don't think deserve powerQuote:
Originally Posted by Gigabitch [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
There is going to be election for President in Poland this year. I really would like to vote but the problem is, I don't see any good candidate for my precious vote. All of the candidates are scumbags. Each one of them less or more. I wish the politicians would change each few years ,but they are the same since 20 years... All parties had their chance to show their good sides but it's always the same... Promises that never come true :/
Yea but the way I see it is to always pick the least of two or more evils...nobody is going to be perfect....but I would rather vote and not get the person I want elected then not vote and not get the person I want elected...then I can say at least I tried.
I mean truly who you vote for or don't vote for can greatly impact not just your country but the world.
I don't mean to call you guys out and I certainly don't know you but I think generally people just use that as an excuse because they are to lazy to get involved....once again I don't know you guys and I'm not talking about you in particular...I just hear this a lot and its what I think people really mean.
If no one voted, they'd have to change the system, obviously something is wrong if the vote rates keep shrinkingQuote:
Originally Posted by dewilliams2 [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Your theory precludes the thought that many people do not vote for the simple reason that they have other things going on in life...they know more about facebook and myspace and american idol and video games then they know about current events and politics.
They just don't get involved because they let other distractions take over....I don't know how many adults my age I have met who do not understand the difference in the party ideology in this country and where the main differences lay.
And somebody would always vote...the people running are aloud to vote....I don't think the system is broken so much as it just needs a tune-up...we really in this country need to rethink campaign finance. I'd like to see it where if you give money to a candidate it is directly through the party and it is put into a general fund...then that money is divided up among the party....the money should remain untraceable by the candidates. Then there needs to be a division of the FBI given the job of investigating every politicians financial dealings.
Certainly there would still be some corruption but not to such a large degree....then all of a sudden it would be harder for corporations and entire industries to buy their own politician.
Dewill... You're wrong saying I don't follow politics in my country... If you would see what's going on there, maybe you would think the same...
I think they need to gather up those lawyers into a large container that is pushed off the deck of the USS George Bush somewhere in the mid-Atlantic. That would send the correct message. Parasites.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mishanya [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
I know a lot of people who fit that description and know nothing about politics or what goes on in the world and they still vote. Usually to corrupted politicians who are robbing us.Quote:
Originally Posted by dewilliams2 [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
I said I was not speaking about you and Robot...I'm talking about what is going on in America and why things are here the way they are....we were talking about American legislation to begin with...Quote:
Originally Posted by Petit Papillon [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
As I said though I'd rather vote for the least of two or more evils...the way I see it is the system in place is pretty solid...its easier to make a difference within it as opposed to being on the outside throwing rocks at it.Quote:
Originally Posted by the_robot [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Its sort of like complaining about the paint color in your home but not repainting it because you can't find a brush you like....just pick one that is better than the other ones....even if its not your favorite.
In the end, it was addressed to us in some way, wasn't it? You were comparing us to people who say exactly the same things about voting but are not interested in politics. I assume you were talking about us.Quote:
Originally Posted by dewilliams2 [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
My plan is to live aways from the world.. get an island for me where I rule.Quote:
Originally Posted by dewilliams2 [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
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Originally Posted by Mishanya [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Whole different group you are talking about Mish. I am talking about those people who chose to buy toys and live extravagantly rather than cover their own ass.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cbrider [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
[url=http://www8.nationalacademies.org/onpinews/newsitem.aspx?RecordID=10188]Coverage Matters: Insurance and Health Care[/url]Quote:
Originally Posted by dewilliams2 [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
There is a fair amount of information packed into this article if you feel like reading it through. There are far more people who chose to not carry insurance in lieu of spending money on other things not crucial to their survival (i.e. Boats, Hummers, Vacations, etc, etc...). Read the Myths Debunked section if anything.
Those people should NOT be covered. If you are too stupid to take care of yourself when you have the ability to, then I really think the population is better off without you.
America has this fantastic history of protecting stupid people we call citizens. We just hand things out left and right in exchange for absolutely nothing.
Sure the banks made poor choices, but someone making $50,000 a year knows they can't afford a million dollar home, even if the banks approve them. When things go to hell in a hand basket, they all point to corporate America and blame it on them. Not recognizing that these people are as much and more responsible for their misfortune than their lender is naive and foolish.
Accountability....we need it.
I just realized that I have a perfect example of what I am talking about happen this summer.
I was out riding with friends up in the mountains and we were being stupid. One of the guys I rode with wrapped his bike around a tree. I hit the dirt he flung onto the road and went down as well. He got air lifted out and went into ICU on and off for two weeks.
Guess what? He racked up something like $300,000 in medical bills and had ZERO health insurance. Maybe he couldn't afford it......or maybe it was all chewed up on the TWO bikes he owned. He's doing something that is statistically a death trap...riding a motorcycle and doing it without insurance. These are the situations that rub me the wrong way.
I wasn't badly hurt, banged up from head to toe, messed up both shoulders and fractured my ankle, but I had full coverage insurance on my bike and coverage on myself. My motorcycle and my body were covered and taken care of because I was responsible and took the precautions I needed too. Now I have to pay not only my premiums, but the bills this other guy racked up having no insurance.
I'm 23 and in college. I pay for school, rent, my bike, utilities, insurance, etc, and I do it all working an hourly job. I by no means know everything there is to know in the world, but I feel like if I can pull it off, why can't the guy my age with the $50,000 M3 do it?