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Originally Posted by boobaa [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

Besides, what bad did I say about America now? You people are way too uptight imho.

"A lot of you think Obama is different, but if you look at his team, you can predict another wars to come. He has created an illusion that your apathetic americans can have a say, but I doubt it will happen."

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You generalized Americans as "apathetic" and that we all voted for something that doesn't matter. I think it mattered a great deal.

Anyway, you say we can't make assumptions about Estonia because we haven't been there, but we're going on what we've read/seen in print or TV. Just like how you base us on what you read or see in the media.

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Originally Posted by misombra [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

i think marriage should be the church's decision. that prop being on the ballot was government encroaching upon the church.

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The church (or whatever religious organization) has always had the right to refuse to marry people. That wouldn't have changed. They weren't looking for religious acceptance (although the No on 8 campaign *did* have some religious support). In fact, they already had the right to marry in California, and some religious denominations would perform marriages, and others wouldn't.

This proposition took away any right to marry, whether it be in or out of the church.

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Originally Posted by tooxshort [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

You generalized Americans as "apathetic" and that we all voted for something that doesn't matter. I think it mattered a great deal.

Anyway, you say we can't make assumptions about Estonia because we haven't been there, but we're going on what we've read/seen in print or TV. Just like how you base us on what you read or see in the media.

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Actually that 'apathetic' calling came from a fellow American :)
Yup, some of you are uptight.

Now take a good look at history, how many wars have been canceled? there are wars because there are needs for a war, and if there is a need, no-one is going to stop it, even Mr President. Your country, my friend, is not run by President, your country is run by corporations. All candidates come from same corporations, they are part of them and are influenced by them, they get resources. Your whole country is a big world eating corporation, face it. Look at ties in Bush family, Clinton, etc.

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Originally Posted by boobaa [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

Your whole country is a big world eating corporation, face it.

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Fine. Let's start by eating Estonia. The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

My friend bought a six pack of amazingly racist colas so we could toast Obama's victory. I had to post a pic of them. I can't stop cracking up.

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Seeing as marriage is becoming more of a cultural rather than religious practice the ban should only be imposed on church marriages if they're against it so much, but not the chance to marry altogether.

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Originally Posted by Gribble [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

It doesn't surprise me. Hypocrisy is the name of the game. It's a never ending cycle.

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Interesting. I don't find it at all hypocritical. A lot of minorities who came out to vote this election are religious. For a lot of them, the fact that Obama is erudite & intelligent is just a bonus beyond the fact that he's from a visible minority. Their 'Saviour' comes to mind. I feel for Obama in this, he's got a tough road ahead.

Still, whatever it takes. He got in & McCain didn't, is all that matters.

It is ironic that demographics that claim to be oppressed will not hesitate to do the same to someone else if given the opportunity?

His victory speech was really good.

A little bit of humour from Ann Coulter


Indeed, the only good thing about McCain is that he gave us a genuine conservative, Sarah Palin. He's like one of those insects that lives just long enough to reproduce so that the species can survive. That's why a lot of us are referring to Sarah as "The One" these days.

For now, we have a new president-elect. In the spirit of reaching across the aisle, we owe it to the Democrats to show their president the exact same kind of respect and loyalty that they have shown our recent Republican president.

[url]http://news.yahoo.com/s/ucac/20081106/cm_ucac/thereignoflamefallsmainlyonmccain[/url]

Respect is earned, not given. I think Obama will earn the respect of both dems & gops if he's given half a chance. "I'll be your president too" was brilliant.

What a stupid bint is Ann Coulter. Her comment isn't at all clever. GWB lost everyones respect b/c he's an idiot and a poor leader. He went way beyond party lines to prove that long ago.

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Originally Posted by Frasbee [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

It is ironic that demographics that claim to be oppressed will not hesitate to do the same to someone else if given the opportunity?

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aaaaahaahjhaaaa that's right frizzzz! i'm gonna be making you white boys my slaves soon so you better prepare!

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Originally Posted by http://tarobb.blogspot.com/

I know that you have been hearing that Obama would be the first black president. But you and I both know that this is not true. Obama is only half black. Not only is he only half black he was not raised in a black environment. He was raised by his single mother, because his black father did what is so common with black men that there are jokes about it.

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Originally Posted by misombra [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

aaaaahaahjhaaaa that's right frizzzz! i'm gonna be making you white boys my slaves soon so you better prepare!

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I hope you forcefully take my seed misombra

I hope Obama sets a good example for black people and doesn't embarrass them...though black people are good at that doing it to themself anyways. He seems to have a good head on his shoulders. In fact since black people seem to think that he is their icon so much the more they make it that they have a lot riding on it. If this guy ****s it up it will **** it up for the next one trying to get into office.


lol I don't think Obama is going to all of a sudden try and turn to the favor for all minorities like this all of a sudden how some black people around here seem to think. My Dad's friends wife is a math teacher in a school where a lot of African American teachers work and the next day after Obama was labeled as the winner they didn't go to class but walked around talking about the Obama victory. They all got fired and his wife said that they were surprised..I mean wtf...he isn't going to make white people slaves or some shit...if he did we would just kick him out(congress is still more powerful, thanks to democracy) and than start throwing African American babies into pits of fire to make ourselves feel better :D .