First, I don't think what I'm saying is BS. Second, girls who would read this thread the entire way through would not see, "sex is bad, not having sex is noble"; they would see two sides to an argument that they've probably been having with themselves. And based on our views and information, they could decide for themselves what's right, and hopefully, if not abstaining in their youth, at least realize that they need to have some sense about it. Sex is an emotional thing, but it's an emotional thing to be careful with, just like everything else. If you're too reckless, bad things happen. And whether Jesus comes to someone in their dreams would have a lot more to do with their own problems than with the article I pointed to about teenage pregnancy. >> It doesn't all have to do with religion. Neither my roommate nor my best friend believe in God, and they're both waiting until marriage. Oh, and I'd rather settle for a "loser" guy than be in a relationship with someone pressuring me to have sex. It goes back to "if you're not having sex with me, you don't love me enough." If a guy is trying to force me into something, then /he's/ the loser. And to be perfectly honest, I prefer an emotional basis to a relationship than a physical one. But I'm not really understanding this--does that mean that all men who wait are "lower quality"? Are all women who wait simply settling for the scum of the earth? It doesn't make sense to me, that.