Thanks all, I hope what you say reflects reality more than my paranoid delusions ;-). I suppose I've been scratching my head wondering why my luck with online dating is so dire, and why I often feel invisible in clubs, pubs.etc. I know it's mostly not a 'race' thing, but you can't help but think of all the possible reasons. I guess I just need to do the things any guy should. Perth people are pretty conservative, so maybe I'd have more luck if I moved to a bigger city like Sydney or Melbourne? I'm a bit of an arty intellectual - not so much in the way I dress or behave, my in my interests. I'm just as happy to go to the footy and have a few cold ones at the local, so I don't fit into any stereotype.