"Looks are everything these days"

Do you agree or disagree with the statement? (No inbetweens)

I mean, in this sex-obsessed world that we currently live in, if you're not good-looking, that's you damned for your whole life.

You have to look attractive, perfect, gorgeous etc - otherwise no one is going to take you seriously.

It doesn't matter if you have the best personality in the world, or are really good with people etc - if you don't have the looks, no one will shag you and no one will take you seriously.

In fact, being a virgin is considered a disgusting and horrible trait, unfortunately.

A slutty girl is considered better than a girl with morals. Girls are expected to have nice boobs and a slim figure; men are expected to have a big cock and look "fit".

If you don't have the looks, you're treated as scum. Looks are everything these days.

... This is not my opinion, but this is the way I see the world at the moment. That's society for you in a few sentences.

Do you agree with this or not?

"This is not my opinion but how I see the world at the moment" Uhm.. Then ~ That would be your opinion.

.. no I do not agree with your opinion. My opinion is you are a whiney attention seeker who is on school break with nothing else to do with yourself. Go get a job and stop the foolishness.

Well I'm certain that everyone is attractive to someone. Though yes, looks are very important for mating - there are no two ways about it.

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Originally Posted by Wakeup [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

"This is not my opinion but how I see the world at the moment" Uhm.. Then ~ That would be your opinion.

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Because I don't think looks should be everything - but it is.

Maybe not the whole world, but definitely society regarding young adults.

These days people who do one night stands and get drunk are regarded highly.

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Originally Posted by menace2soceity [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

Well I'm certain that everyone is attractive to someone. Though yes, looks are very important for mating - there are no two ways about it.

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"Mating" or sex?

In today's society, if you don't have sex, you're a pathetic unsocialable little virgin with no hope of a future...

Depressing, nevertheless true, fact.

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Originally Posted by academicgirl [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

if you don't have the looks, no one will shag you and no one will take you seriously.

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are u bitter? :rolleyes:
looks are not everyting, but often help.

Exactly, you're attitude to me practically proves what I'm saying. People have this assumptions that if you're a virgin, you're pathetic.

Often help = they matter over anything else.

Let's be honest here.

You know if you would go out and actually live a little colours would seem much brighter. You may say that you have nothing to do but excatly thats why notthing happening cause you are just wasting time complaining on internet. If you wana have fun then do something. Focus on summer.

Agreed

beauty pretty much guarantee's you success, unless your mental or something.

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Originally Posted by pcmaster [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

You know if you would go out and actually live a little colours would seem much brighter. You may say that you have nothing to do but excatly thats why notthing happening cause you are just wasting time complaining on internet. If you wana have fun then do something. Focus on summer.

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I'm ugly. I have nothing better to do with my life.

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Originally Posted by WildOne. [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

Agreed

beauty pretty much guarantee's you success, unless your mental or something.

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Shameful really. :(

Where has the world gone to?

Looks are important, but no way near as important as you describe.

Disagree.

In this world, if you are not good-looking, you are treated as ****, to the point that you're not even considered a human being.

It's true. I'm being honest.

You have got to be kidding. You can't actually believe that. Not considered a human being?

Honey, the only pathetic thing here, is your perception of the world. Life is what you make it. Get off your ass and stop complaining. I know many ugly people who are more successful than I currently am, soooo maybe it's just you. Poor, naive child. And ps. being a virgin has nothing to do with what happens to you in the REAL world (career, people taking you seriously, etc) That all has to do with your attitude, and yours is pretty shitty, so no wonder no one takes you seriously.

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Originally Posted by academicgirl [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

"Mating" or sex?

In today's society, if you don't have sex, you're a pathetic unsocialable little virgin with no hope of a future...

Depressing, nevertheless true, fact.

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Mating and sex are the same thing.

Every new generation acts like caring about attractiveness is a novel thing, but it's actually been prevalent for a few million years. Sexual selection means survival of the sexiest. What we find "sexy" covers other attributes such as intelligence, skills and sense of humour, but physical attractiveness is still a massive part of it.

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Originally Posted by academicgirl [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

I'm ugly. I have nothing better to do with my life.

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Thats wrong. Looks like people treated you bad until you stoped believing in yourself. Actually its your thinking that locks you out of heaven. One negative thought like - Im not good enought. Is enough to ruin life.

Are you creative person? Is there something that you can do particulary well? Like unique skill or hobby?

I was reading this when realised it perfectly describes you -

loveforum.net/threads/83617-Recovering-a-Sense-of-Worth

So had to post cause theres huge lesson in it.

Can I add option C to the voting?

Academicgirl is incredibly boring because she can only talk about one topic.

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Originally Posted by academicgirl [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

Because I don't think looks should be everything - but it is.

Maybe not the whole world, but definitely society regarding young adults.

These days people who do one night stands and get drunk are regarded highly.


"Mating" or sex?

In today's society, if you don't have sex, you're a pathetic unsocialable little virgin with no hope of a future...

Depressing, nevertheless true, fact.

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OH.MY.GOD... It's the female version of LovesReject.

:emot100:

Since you feel ugly. It's now time that you accept your fate. Maybe this will help you.


http://deadseriousness.com/advantagesofbeingugly/

If this link doesn't work. Google it.

It is what it is, its not like that by them living that way, they reap 100% benefits. Their is a con to that lifestyle, so from the outside, it may look like they are enjoying it, but on the inside, its not fun and games. If they choose to value physical "perfection" and make it something important, it will have its benefits and drawbacks.

For example, by relying solely on looks to determine a person's worth, you miss out on being able to see spiritual and emotional worth. With these things lacking, things will end up in a miserable state.

There is no need to complain, there is a self-fixing mechanism for anything that has negative aspects to it.

I myself lived without putting value on physical worth. I have become immune to "beauty", being able to only see it in what I choose. Thus, I am not affected by girls who are hot. However, I also know that even people who aren't beautiful can still be as corrupt as the beautiful people are perceived to be. And I also know that there are "beautiful" people who are good and aren't shallow and just simply got lucky/unlucky to have inherited "good looks."

The source of your problem may be that you put importance on what they value.

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Originally Posted by Noveyor [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

For example, by relying solely on looks to determine a person's worth, you miss out on being able to see spiritual and emotional worth. With these things lacking, things will end up in a miserable state.

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Noveyor, your words made me wonder if the OP is as shallow about everyone else as she is about herself.

I'm wondering if Academic would date a guy who wasn't gorgeous....or would she judge him as unworthy

I think she would see her reflection in others. If person is ugly she will hate it cause she hates herself. I think she would be attracted to person opposite of her.

eh?

lol.. academic but so dim?

Look, society is as is. We are a very looks-based culture, but you cannot change it.

Either improve what you have, or accept that you're not deemed attractive per social norms.

If people born with disabilities/deformities can, so can you. Even then, such people can and do get married/in relationships, so not all hope is lost.

Besides, how do you look exactly? So you may not be a 10, big deal.

Physically attractive people have bigger social circles, are more successful at work and earn more money. They are also perceived to have better personality traits and intelligence than your average-looking person..studies have shown this.

Looks play a massive role in all areas of life, not just in terms of attracting the opposite sex.

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Originally Posted by riseandfall [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

Physically attractive people have bigger social circles, are more successful at work and earn more money. They are also perceived to have better personality traits and intelligence than your average-looking person..studies have shown this.

Looks play a massive role in all areas of life, not just in terms of attracting the opposite sex.

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I must be a bloody stunner then, because I have a wide circle of friends, just got a promotion at work, a £5k pay rise, and I'm reasonably smart.

I'm not a stunner though, so maybe those studies weren't all encompassing, eh?

No i don't think looks are everything. Personality counts for way more.

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Originally Posted by anonymous_a [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

Honey, the only pathetic thing here, is your perception of the world. Life is what you make it. Get off your ass and stop complaining. I know many ugly people who are more successful than I currently am, soooo maybe it's just you. Poor, naive child. And ps. being a virgin has nothing to do with what happens to you in the REAL world (career, people taking you seriously, etc) That all has to do with your attitude, and yours is pretty shitty, so no wonder no one takes you seriously.

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It's not about success, but about finding a guy.

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Originally Posted by UndercoverLover [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

Mating and sex are the same thing.

Every new generation acts like caring about attractiveness is a novel thing, but it's actually been prevalent for a few million years. Sexual selection means survival of the sexiest. What we find "sexy" covers other attributes such as intelligence, skills and sense of humour, but physical attractiveness is still a massive part of it.

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Mating = having sex in order to procreate

What young adults today have sex in order to procreate?

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Originally Posted by pcmaster [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

Thats wrong. Looks like people treated you bad until you stoped believing in yourself. Actually its your thinking that locks you out of heaven. One negative thought like - Im not good enought. Is enough to ruin life.

Are you creative person? Is there something that you can do particulary well? Like unique skill or hobby?

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No. People are better than me at everything.

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Originally Posted by Noveyor [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

I myself lived without putting value on physical worth. I have become immune to "beauty", being able to only see it in what I choose. Thus, I am not affected by girls who are hot. However, I also know that even people who aren't beautiful can still be as corrupt as the beautiful people are perceived to be. And I also know that there are "beautiful" people who are good and aren't shallow and just simply got lucky/unlucky to have inherited "good looks."

The source of your problem may be that you put importance on what they value.

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Really? Honestly?

Would you shag a girl based on her personality only? No?

Exactly.

Looks and getting sex are everything.

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Originally Posted by basilandthyme [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

Noveyor, your words made me wonder if the OP is as shallow about everyone else as she is about herself.

I'm wondering if Academic would date a guy who wasn't gorgeous....or would she judge him as unworthy

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Depends what you mean by "gorgeous guys".

I've always fancied guys who other people wouldn't normally classify as sex gods, but in my opinion they were divine.

What's a gorgeous guy in your opinion?

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Originally Posted by stadt [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

eh?

lol.. academic but so dim?

Look, society is as is. We are a very looks-based culture, but you cannot change it.

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Yes I know that.

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Originally Posted by stadt [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

Either improve what you have, or accept that you're not deemed attractive per social norms.

If people born with disabilities/deformities can, so can you. Even then, such people can and do get married/in relationships, so not all hope is lost.

Besides, how do you look exactly? So you may not be a 10, big deal.

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It's just... I don't know. It's never going to happen. Forget it.

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Originally Posted by riseandfall [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

Physically attractive people have bigger social circles, are more successful at work and earn more money. They are also perceived to have better personality traits and intelligence than your average-looking person..studies have shown this.

Looks play a massive role in all areas of life, not just in terms of attracting the opposite sex.

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Exactly.

If you don't have the looks, you're ****** (metaphorically speaking).

That's your life over.

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Originally Posted by Sparkling [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

No i don't think looks are everything. Personality counts for way more.

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It's a shame not many other people think like the way you do.

Why is everything about finding a guy?? Stop looking and one will come to you! Focus on YOU, on school/work, and becoming successful. Maybe take this single time to work on your self esteem and your confidence. If you do all this, someone will notice you, and someone will come along. I know many ugly people in relationships, but they're looks are the only thing ugly about them. Your personality (based on how you present yourself on this forum) is just as ugly as you claim your looks to be. If you don't want the world to be so focused on looks, then maybe YOU should stop focusing on them.

AG, do you even makeup?

Look at these pornstars with and without makeup, you can't look as bad as they do without that stuff

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Looks are not everything. Yes having good looks is an advantage but personality counts for a lot too.

And whats with the obsession with sex? Arent you like 14? I didnt have sex till i was 18 coz i chose to wait and ive only been with 2. Why do you think the more you sleep with, the more attractive that makes you? The opposite is true IMO. If your looking to guys for validation you will never be happy. If a guy f**ks you it doesnt mean he cares or that he thinks your hot. Some guys woud f**k a cactus if there was nothing else around

sex prooves nothing as far as beauty goes so dont use that as a way to try and boost your self esteem. IMO the most confident people (men and women) are the ones who dont think they need a certain number of notches on their belt.

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When youre not, youre not...

Looks are as important as personality is, imho. You need to find your SO attractive but that only means attractive to you, not to the masses, ya know.
What one finds hot is not what another might. Take a hot sexy girl who is a bitch and no personality or humor about herself or life and can't hold a convo, she gets dumped. So that should tell ya looks are not everything to most.

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I must be a bloody stunner then, because I have a wide circle of friends, just got a promotion at work, a £5k pay rise, and I'm reasonably smart.

I'm not a stunner though, so maybe those studies weren't all encompassing, eh?

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It's different if you're a girl. I'd 100% rather be an ugly guy than an ugly girl

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Originally Posted by anonymous_a [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

Why is everything about finding a guy?? Stop looking and one will come to you! Focus on YOU, on school/work, and becoming successful. Maybe take this single time to work on your self esteem and your confidence. If you do all this, someone will notice you, and someone will come along. I know many ugly people in relationships, but they're looks are the only thing ugly about them. Your personality (based on how you present yourself on this forum) is just as ugly as you claim your looks to be. If you don't want the world to be so focused on looks, then maybe YOU should stop focusing on them.

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Doubt it. Why would anyone come to me? Why would they pick me over another girl? Even if I were beautiful, what is there that is special about me? Being ugly just makes things worse.

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Originally Posted by Nice [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

AG, do you even makeup?

Look at these pornstars with and without makeup, you can't look as bad as they do without that stuff

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They were pretty in the first place.

In the last picture, the girl was making a stupid face, which doesn't count.

I would kill to look like them.

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Originally Posted by michelle23 [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

Looks are not everything. Yes having good looks is an advantage but personality counts for a lot too.

And whats with the obsession with sex? Arent you like 14? I didnt have sex till i was 18 coz i chose to wait and ive only been with 2. Why do you think the more you sleep with, the more attractive that makes you? The opposite is true IMO. If your looking to guys for validation you will never be happy. If a guy f**ks you it doesnt mean he cares or that he thinks your hot. Some guys woud f**k a cactus if there was nothing else around

sex prooves nothing as far as beauty goes so dont use that as a way to try and boost your self esteem. IMO the most confident people (men and women) are the ones who dont think they need a certain number of notches on their belt.

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I don't know, I guess it would make me feel appreciated and meaning that I don't repulse guys away.

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Originally Posted by Jffs24 [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

Looks are as important as personality is, imho. You need to find your SO attractive but that only means attractive to you, not to the masses, ya know.
What one finds hot is not what another might. Take a hot sexy girl who is a bitch and no personality or humor about herself or life and can't hold a convo, she gets dumped. So that should tell ya looks are not everything to most.

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Doesn't it really help though?

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Originally Posted by academicgirl [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

They were pretty in the first place.

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Not sure if srs...

Are you havin a giggle there?

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Really? Honestly?

Would you shag a girl based on her personality only? No?

Exactly.

Looks and getting sex are everything.

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If that is how I thought, then I shouldn't have been able to come up with the words I just told you.

Unlike some, I live my words, no matter how difficult it is because that is what having integrity is.

To answer, yes I would get into a relationship with a girl who is not considered pretty or is just plain, and make love as well. I would love her "imperfection" like it was true beauty(because to me, it would be) and only be attracted to her and no other girl. I was so devoted that I still had never seen porn or masterbated by the time I graduated High School because I only wanted to experience sexual things through her and no other way. Achieving that was the hardest thing in life, harder than any academic pursuit, but to me it was worth it.

I did it all for the hypothetical girl, no matter what she looked like, because she would be the only girl I do anything sexual with and the only girl who's body I would admire. Some found this idea laughable. I was called "the lost cause", "the blast from the past", because of my ways.

Unfortunately, the world doesn't recognize this as a merit and I never did find a girl. I eventually passed the age of 26, which was the limit for me, and now I cannot ever enter a relationship to keep true to my words.

You're under the impression that I "shag" for beauty, or that I shag at all. I never shagged in my life because I would only shag a single girl in life, and that would be the girl I choose to be my girlfriend/wife. I choose what I think is beatiful, and the body will follow that. That is why people in the past liked women that are considered ugly today.

So I only choose my wife as the only girl that is beatiful, and I am immune to all other girls. But since I have no girl in my life, and am too old to start at 28 by my own standards. And because I am single, I am immune to all girls. That is why no girl has ever been able to get me. To try to start a relationship with me using the physical will only get me to see them as a sister or make me outright immune to them. If a girl ever thought about getting to me through spiritual or emotional outlets such as friendship, a girl would have gotten me already, but because, as you said, the world thinks its all about looks and that they can only get what they want using looks, they never understood why I couldn't be gotten by anybody.

And to anybody that might think I am dissing physical attraction, I am not saying its bad, I am just saying its not for me and I don't find it fun to start off the relationship like that. I find it much more fulfilling it the physical happens after the spiritual or emotional side is developed fully. No offense, but I can't work any other way and I refuse to ever start things off physically. To show how much this is true, I still have never even kissed in the lips, something I was saving for the hypothetical girl that never appeared.

It doesn't pain me at all that I lived like this, I have enjoyed it, and the possibility of being single has always been a part of the deal and I was always in full acceptance with my life path.

Looks are really important

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Originally Posted by xo_sammy_ox [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]

Looks are really important

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and your really dumb .. someone is suppose to take me more serious because of the way i look now ?
if they didn't like my personality before, why should they now?

Once a b**ch or a$$hole, no one will change you.

I approached many attractive girls, that couldn't made me
not stand their personality after the way they behaved or said.

Better to be happy with an average girl, then be miserable with a high maintenance soul stealer.

Everybody likes look at and be around pretty people, but you don't have to be gorgeous to attract the opposite sex. In order to attract to the right person, girls need look clean, have confidence in themselves, dress properly, have some sense of fashion is necessary. If the person only has the outside is attractive, but has nasty personality and attitude, nobody would want to be around her. For ladies, not only we need look good from the outside, but more importantly, develop inner quality and strength, make self to be a confident person :-)