Be afraid.
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Be afraid.
npr.org/blogs/health/2011/10/20/141544135/look-around-1-in-10-americans-take-antidepressants?sc=fb&cc=fp
I am not surprised. Im seriously shocked that not everybody takes them. This world is usually lovely but also enraging and depressing.
Im also not surprised that people are afraid of the stigma. I get so much shit for takin rhem for ppd. I have zero friends that support me on it. Its sad. It makes me more depressed.
Intelligence and happiness are both innate features of the brain and its chemistry.
I mean, some "strong" and "tough" person can just "will" themselves into a happier or more content mental state. I don't understand why a person can't just "will" themselves into a mental state that understands statistical mechanics. They must not be trying hard enough./sarcasm
Some people like to feel good about themselves by comparing themselves with people who were born to a predisposition to melancholy. They call it being strong or tough because they are too stupid to understand simple biology.
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I don't think the depression isn't real. I just think it's a reflection of an extremely dysfunctional society, where people are very disconnected from one another.Quote:
Originally Posted by misombra [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Great info of you.
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Originally Posted by DoesntMatter [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
For a second there I thought you were being serious. Thank you for the sarcasm tag.
Krishnamurti: “It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.”
It is sad to see so many people opting for anti-depressants. People need to be made aware that depression can be taken care of through natural ways kike exercising.
i would not encourage taking of pills as a way to cure an illness.
Go the natural way!
oh please.
go have a baby the natural way then come over here and say that.
There's always been crazy. Depends how you use it. But I agree, we did just fine before the antidepressant pushers came on-scene.
Many thanks for taking the time to discuss this, I really feel strongly about it and love learning much more on this topic. If possible, as you gain expertise, would you mind updating your website with a lot more facts? It’s extremely helpful for me.
not really shocking. but thanks for the info. i learned something. =)
They made no difference for me. My problem was a lack of girls, which would probably solve most guys' problems. And MAAAN this thread is old, although informative.
Good thread to restore. I agree with Vash, we are too disconnected as a society. Pill pushers just filling the void. Band-aid, not root cause.
On the other hand, at least it means the original few who were taking it don't have to feel stigmatized and can find comfort in the fact that there are more like themselves taking it. I can't imagine being one of the early anti-depressant takers; they must have felt so much shame and the need to be secretive.
there is still shame in it. I used to take my bottle to work so nobody at home knew about it.
I know kids who brag about it now. "OmG, so and so lyke totes broke up w/ me...(brand of anti-depressant), ur my new BFF :( ♥" And for the rest of us who aren't emo jackasses, it doesn't feel quite like how depression used to be treated with lobotomies or being fired and having stones thrown at you.
Actually we didn't do 'just fine'. I look back at my ex husband. Knowing what I do now, I'm sure he suffers from depression and that his depressive state contributed to the end of our marriage. But depression wasn't recognised back then and he just plodded on in misery and our marriage was the casualty.Quote:
Originally Posted by IndiReloaded [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Likewise, I've suffered from depression on and off during my adult years. It got really bad after having my disabled son. If living under a permanent dark cloud and being unable to care for myself or my baby properly is doing 'just fine', then you've got a different definition to me.
Edited to add: my ex also attempted suicide after I left. He really wasn't doing just fine.
Meanwhile, some other kids brag about being Bi-Polar. I find it really offensive that a moody teenager uses a serious mental illness to describe their behaviour.Quote:
Originally Posted by Love'sReject [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Psychiatrists are the root. If they didn't diagnose normal teenage angst as a mental illness and throw drugs at them, kids wouldn't do this.Quote:
Originally Posted by basilandthyme [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
It's hip to have diagnosed problems. Some even fabricate problems to have more of these badges. The internet as a resource to mistakenly self-diagnose rather than use it as a guideline for when to know to seek help...gone rampant apparently.Quote:
Originally Posted by basilandthyme [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
I thought they were using the term tongue-in-cheek. As a catch all to describe their behaviour.Quote:
Originally Posted by Love'sReject [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
I just thought it was kids playing with terms they've heard adults use. Are you suggesting that when a poster says "my 16yo girlfriend says she's bi-polar" that she may have actually been diagnosed?Quote:
Originally Posted by vashti [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
*wants to generalize in a way that bashes these not-really-kids children*Quote:
Originally Posted by basilandthyme [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
We had other, more healthy and less isolating coping mechanisms. Friends, family, church and other social support. That is my point.Quote:
Originally Posted by basilandthyme [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Antidepressant medication is way overprescribed. To quote Rene Brown:
The U.S. is the most obese, addicted, over-medicated and politically polarized that it's ever been. One of the problems is that people have more sense of shame and unworthiness than ever; they fear to be vulnerable and they seek perfectionism.
I've lived in Oz also, and I think the rate of obesity is even higher there. Antidepressant meds are a band-aid, not a solution.
Those things still exist now.
Exist =/= use. It's easier to take a pill than to connect with another person.Quote:
Originally Posted by Love'sReject [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Let's not look at earlier times as being so innocent. Nothing has REALLY changed.
Very possibly, though so many kids are such drama queens these days, they may just be throwing the term around for attention. All I know is that I see a LOT of psych medication being prescribed. It's alarming.Quote:
Originally Posted by basilandthyme [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
You don't have a frame of reference to make this claim LR, you are too young. Or, if you prefer, there is also hard data that says otherwise.
Look up medication rates, obesity.. the expansion of the DSM in the last 60 years. Iatrogenic. Victimization >> personal responsibility. Intolerance to unhappiness. Not everyone, but many more than past generations.
Health professionals ancedotes, like Vash.
My point was, houses have always been broken and bad remedies have always been suggested. Personally, I blame Malthusian problems such as population strain.
Gotta say though, psych meds do have their place. Risperidone has been great for my son.Quote:
Originally Posted by vashti [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
I wanted to add, until recent times it's been known that Risperidone helps with significant behavioural issues in autism. But there wasn't clearance from the drug admin for doctors (here in Oz) to prescribe for autism, so the doctors would get around the red tape by diagnosing a mental illness. Crazy stuff when you've got to mis-diagnose to give the patients the help they need.
For what it's worth, I was anti medication for my son. Then puberty kicked in and all the wheels fell off. It's amazing how one's attitude can change when it's necessary.
Indi, I agree that there is over-prescribing of meds. However, some people DO suffer debilitating depression despite all the emotional support in the world.
Ugh. I have no patience for those who speak the obvious. You are deliberately missing the real point and wanting sympathy for your specific issues. Whatever. You'll have to look elsewhere for my approval, sorry.
Who are you talking to, Indi?
Whoever wants to claim this garb for themselves, I suppose. Equal opportunity self-flaggelation.
Whoa. Fatigued me is confused. Probably shouldn't be tackling heady subjects like this after such a long day. Forget I said anything..
It's my posts which Indi is talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Love'sReject [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Indi, I'm not after your approval or your sympathy. I agree that the meds are over prescribed, but I object to blanket statements such as "we all did fine before the anti-depressant pushers came along" (paraphrasing). Not everyone did fine. And I believe such broad statements further ostracise those who do have mental health issues. And I'm speaking broadly - not about anyone in particular
The defunct mental asylum 1km from where I live is testament to everyone not being 'fine'.