I'm disappointed Giga with your groundless truism..
A confident man doesn't convey needy-ness, he isn't pushy, he isn't desperate, he doesn't beg, he doesn't flatter, he doesn't suck up to her, he doesn't seek her attention and validation; the woman to him is nobody..
Not only is he not moved by her physical features, he's so unaffected that he doesn't hesitate to comment on her imperfections (as if she were a guy or some ugly chick).. that's not manipulation, that's confidence
She hasn't really done anything to impress him; he's just letting her know.. Good-looking women need help when it comes to telling how interested the guy is.. Since their ego is unreasonably high, when they leave their house, they think the world wants them (emotional rationalization).. so the guy needs to shut this down, (let her logical rationalization come into play), but her ego won't allow it, she'd rather leave than to rationalize and accept that he's not interested in her (everyone wants her in her world)
This is why you need to PD.. it's not manipulation, it's snapping her back to reality so quickly that she doesn't have the chance to run away and save her ego from the truth (that she's not that special).. this is why it makes you upset (women), because it's not pretty.. it has nothing to do with emotional stability or any other false criticisms.. it's about mutual respect, and being on the same reality platform.. no matter what excuse you want to throw at it, that's all it's doing..
The truth.. the PD won't work if you overuse it! This is why a PD will only act to "insult" a man or a woman (8 or lower), because they don't leave their house thinking "the world wants me".. In short, they are already in a reality state of mind.. (10's & 9's) don't.. And guess what, that's why the PD works on them, because their ego is still not grounded in reality, it's still high up in the clouds.. all it does is it brings it down to reality.. If you over-do-it, you cross onto "insult".. because you push her ego under reality!
It's not a pick-up/dating strategy.. it's a Real-Estate strategy.. the Seller wants to sell for as much as possible.. "Oh this house is so great, the location, the schools, etc".. (the put-down to bring the seller out of his/her my-house-is-gold trance and snap him back to reality).. "How OLD is the roof? Hmm, that's only how many phases & amps it brings in? The market is horrible, and it's still falling!" (bam, no more BS about how his house is gold, not it's just a bunch of bricks and paint).. this isn't manipulation.. it's negotiation..
If women have a problem with it, what it translates to is (we don't like it when the guy takes us out of our g-d's-gift-to-men trance and actively negotiates back).. much like a home seller (we don't like it when the buyer takes us out of our my-house-is-gold trance and actively negotiates back).. But in either case, it's not taking advantage of either party, it's about bringing things to a grounded reality, and fair market value..