Season 8 Movie Club review thread of : IT ( new movie and old miniseries)

This thread is for both options that tied in dollhouse's voting thread.

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You obviously know which option you preferred and voted for : So, that will be the option you will be offering a review for but, if you decide to, later on, compare the old miniseries to the new version of IT you can do so at any time that the review thread for Season 8 is open and not locked by the website.

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I will place my review next week, but since most have already seen the new IT movie, go ahead and post your review right off if online this weekend and see this thread.

I will say an impression I had, not sure if others felt this way or not regarding the new IT movie. But, Pennywise needed subtitles I could barely understand a damn word he said. Mumbles. Incoherent?

Look forward to discussing this movie and miniseries with other members.

Hate the horror movies. Fck ! Whos idea was to watch this shit? Theres was some good bright moments but overall movie was dark. Its good that kids stopped to be afraid but movie didnt made sence at the begining, in the middle and at the end. This movie is more for kids.

Laughted when old perv said girl looks like Louise Laine. Also it was cool that kids saved fat kid from death lol.

I'm not part of the movie thing but you did say I could post anything on a movie I saw if I wanted. I didn't care for this remake, I mean it was shot nicely, special effects and all. But, I didn't care about any of the kids besides Georgie and maybe Beverly. I look forward more to the second film when they are adults. I didn't like the look of the clown either. This film had so much build up and maybe because of that I felt let down.

Yay! This is up! I'll do my full review next week.

I didn't like how they did the clown either, lovebroken. I have to check if I voted to do A or C. I forgets :[

Hehe topazlight at the clown being a mumbler. Maybe it was his HUGE bunny teeth :]

Anyone on my comment in new movies thread about the kids being an exact redo ( including one actual cast member) taken from Stranger Things kids and made the dynamic boring because Stranger did it better.

just letting you know in here i have been online and seen the thread is currently up.

i didn't like the new look of pennywise either, and the plus with the new movie was the visual effects, that is mainly where it differs from the mini series. i still prefer the old one over the new it movie, because it gave that shudder vibe on clowns and carries a sense of nostalgia with it . i too did not care about these kids, and didn't like how they changed mike's role in the movie. also, [MENTION=78034]breathe123[/MENTION] hated they had that stranger things kids in the group of kids as richie, it made me feel i was watching that tv show and i wasn't - i paid plenty to watch this in a theater, not on my couch. also, why was stanley's part rendered to nothing?

i will discuss and write more later on.

[MENTION=70896]Exeter19[/MENTION] I wonder if they will put all familiar faces in the next movie when casting the kids adult versions like they did with the TV mini-series. I also have a special spot for the original. Sorry for intruding again in here. I'd like to see maybe Colin Hanks as William - Bill, and Bryce Howard as Beverly and maybe Donald Glover as Mike. If I think of other choice if allowed I will include into here if others discuss who they liked to play the adult versions.

Signing in and seeing this is started -- I have mixed feelings on this movie. For what it was it was good, but I felt I was like I went to see some kids movie, not a horror movie and that is weird since parts were pretty horrific and graphics, but lots more were childish --including the clown. As a few of the others have said in reading above -- there is a place for the original in a lot of our hearts and mind because IT rofl came first and will always be much more special than any remake but what the old one lacked in visual special effects the new one has in spades.

I'd rate it a 6.5.

Favorite character -- Eddie

Least favorite -- Richie, maybe Eddie's mom too.

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Posting extra I wanted to add yesterday but the forum was f ucking up.

[MENTION=70896]Exeter19[/MENTION] --I felt similar to you, felt why didn't I wait to watch this at home not pay to see it at the cinema. Big screen didn't make it that more of an experience to me, it isn't a movie I will go back and watch again --either way.

[MENTION=77017]lovebroken[/MENTION] -- I think Jessica Chastain would make a good Beverly.
Maybe Jason Bateman as Bill.

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Posting extra I wanted to add yesterday but the forum was f ucking up.

[MENTION=70896]Exeter19[/MENTION] --I felt similar to you, felt why didn't I wait to watch this at home not pay to see it at the cinema. Big screen didn't make it that more of an experience to me, it isn't a movie I will go back and watch again --either way.

[MENTION=77017]lovebroken[/MENTION] -- I think Jessica Chastain would make a good Beverly.
Maybe Jason Bateman as Bill.

I am still curious about Part 2 of IT. Maybe that movie will suit me better and be LESS kiddie-like.

[MENTION=70280]Jffs24[/MENTION] : I like your choice of Jessica Chastain for Beverly.

Thank, hon -- would have replied right off if the forum didn't expel me FFS. Is Bryce Howard, Ron Howard's daughter? Good choice too, another redhead.

Forgot to mention my favorite scenes -- Georgie's death. Better than the mini-series did it. The Projector scene was good too.

Hi movie chatters :] I still haven't written up my full review because my bf agreed to watch the IT mini series this weekend with me so I can compare both ~ something I wasn't going to do but decided to do to make it more fun for me :] So have to wait until this Sunday for me to post my review on both.

But wanted to say some thoughts.

My favorite character was by far ~ Beverly. Only kid in loser club I liked & felt was from the start brave. Also, had to deal with being sexualized, gossiped about at school & preyed on sexually at home by her dad. Then join a group of all boys who looked at her also sexually ~ even the loser pharmacist had impure thoughts about her. I did Not like Beverly's fear was manifested with blood ~ obviously because of getting her period recently & maybe the thought of getting pregnant by her dad< IDK Anyone? thoughts. The parents and adults were all duds in the town, none up to the job of being parents it seemed, no wonder all the kids ran wild and were being picked off by a evil clown.

I enjoyed the remake of IT, it wasn't perfect but it was a fun watch for me.

How about Amy Adams as Beverly?

Was thinking about others who could play the adult versions of the Loser Club ~ what about guy who plays Sheldon on Big Bang Theory as ~ Richie?

Stan, the guy who played Mindy's bf on the Mindy Project ~ Glen Howerton?

Still, want to think of actors who would play Ben & Bill another time. I know people kept saying James Corden for Ben because the young actor looks similar to him but as an adult Ben is no longer fan and supposed to be a ladies man, no? Corden won't work.

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Liked this scene with Beverly and later with IT and caught in his/her/its deadlights?

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I've seen (many times) and own the original mini-series. I've seen the new movie. So, I am hoping to type up my full review/comparison soon. But, it's two movies, so that is likely to be kind of long. LOL! Especially considering it is me we are talking about here. So, I will try to get that together soon.

[MENTION=70280]Jffs24[/MENTION] - Yes, that is his daughter I think she goes by Bryce Dallas. I like your choices [MENTION=78034]breathe123[/MENTION]. I would hate to see James Corden in the next movie as Ben too. What about that cute guy from Gilmore Girls? One who played Logan, he was also on the Good wife.

Hi and apologies for my absence and if I was somehow expected to make the thread up ...I haven't been online anywhere since I did up the other thread to option vote...been ill and not engaging online at all.

I enjoyed the new IT movie, was it entertaining, YUP.... was it well acted, Yup...was it shot nicely, Yup...am I looking forward to the next movie chapter, Hell Yup! haha I like the new Pennywise character but to me seemed an opposite portrayal of the old Pennywise we all knew of.

In discussing favorite characters ...I would say... Beverly and Eddie... I didn't take to this version of Bill at all, or most of the others in the Loser Club ( squad?)

Least favorite, Beverly's dad...

Happy to get back online to discuss with all of you in future days...

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definitely. it was good for what it was but so much was changed, left out or not as good as the original and i am certain the original was done for cheap or what would be considered cheap back then for a tv production. i don't think i would watch this again on tv if it ever shows up for free but whenever the original it movie shows up on tv i always try to view it.
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none of the parents or adults in the it universe are worth anything, they are either abusive, neglecting, pedos or aholes. no wonder so mnay kids die and go missing in derry the parents don't give a shit about them.

Movie was a fun watch. I find it creepy how many women are hot for the new Pennywise killer clown because they think the actor playing him is so hot. It is sort of sick, or maybe that is only my opinion. Same female mentality as women who wanted the Menedez brothers.

[MENTION=70896]Exeter19[/MENTION]... Exactly... the town in itself was a nightmare for kids when parents are either horrible in whatever way or just nonexistent in their lives ( just that in itself will make a kid feel unsafe and then ripe for a psycho creature to prey on them one by one over the decades)... even the police were awful and he got his demise from his own son (town bully) The town was its own character and contributing factor to why Pennywise ruled there for so long, did he make the adults this way or over time it is just how things naturally evolved?

[MENTION=85495]CantMoveOn[/MENTION] ...hahaha... yes, women with Ted Bundy too and a few others. Some women are crazy for men with issues, even killer clowns on the big screen. I think to make a good looking guy play the new Pennywise was done on purpose to get the "It factor, pun intended...haha " to bring in the female moviegoers more, then just some crazy clown, a kid like movie.

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Was thinking about others who could play the adult versions of the Loser Club ~ what about guy who plays Sheldon on Big Bang Theory as ~ Richie?

Stan, the guy who played Mindy's bf on the Mindy Project ~ Glen Howerton?

Still, want to think of actors who would play Ben & Bill another time. I know people kept saying James Corden for Ben because the young actor looks similar to him but as an adult Ben is no longer fan and supposed to be a ladies man, no? Corden won't work.

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Liked this scene with Beverly and later with IT and caught in his/her/its deadlights?

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Ahh, that was my favorite scene of the movie! I loved the atmosphere with his lair, and all the bodies floating around it. So creepy and cool!

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Really, women think the Pennywise actor is hot??
I never knew haha, i know attraction is subjective, but I never totally understand that stuff, i was surprised how many women liked Tom Hiddleson as well.

I always think more of Tom Hardy, Ryan Gosling, etc being more the type women are drawn to

Sorry again, gang. I swear I really want to put together my full review... it's just that is going to take some doing. We are reviewing as well as comparing two movies. So, that may be a bit lengthy and I just have not had the time to even ponder it, much less actually type it out.

I will just say that I LOVED both the original series and the new movie. I am actually surprised by a lot of the negative feelings you all seem to be sharing for the new movie here. It seems like most people really dug the new movie. I've personally heard almost nothing but positive feedback. As it is, I personally love the new movie. I went in feeling like IT was something that really didn't need to be remade... but with an open mind anyway.

I left actually conflicted. ...I MAY actually lean towards thinking the new movie was ever so slightly better. Though, to be completely honest, it isn't exactly a fair comparison. The original was a made for TV mini-series with nowhere even NEAR the special effects we have these days or the budget the new movie had. It was also from a different time when movies were different. So the IT mini-series was right for the time. Had the movie as it was this year been released back then, people may well have hated it and called it "too dark." Again, it was a very different time for movies/TV in general. So, it isn't necessarily an entirely fair comparison to make.

As for Pennywise himself/ITself... I was actually pleasantly surprised by the new Pennywise. When I first saw his new design, I thought he looked much too on the nose scary like they intentionally made him look scary. I thought the original looked so much better because he otherwise just looked like a clown. When I saw the new movie, I was very pleasantly surprised that the new Pennywise worked really well. He was really good. I still lean towards Tim Curry's performance, but the new guy did a great job as well.

The Losers Club in this new movie was great, and I loved their interactions together. But, even there I do lean towards the original. I felt we got more development with them and each of them had more character. We still have a whole second movie to cover the second half of the mini-series, so maybe more to come. But, comparing the first half of the mini-series to the first movie, I felt the gang was more well fleshed out.

Overall, I love both movies and have a hard time deciding which is the better. More so, I just think it is awesome we now have both. That's my quick and dirty review, but I'll add more details as we continue to discuss.

[MENTION=85795]GLYC[/MENTION] ... I know women/girls who find the actor playing Pennywise hot, I don't get it either I much prefer his brother looks wise over him but I think it is just varying tastes.

[MENTION=71386]TheEvilJester[/MENTION] ... I liked the new IT movie but I still prefer the old IT Pennywise over the new one, I think Topazlight hit it on the head with her comment in her first post about not being able to understand him a lot of times. Production on the new IT was 100% better, but I felt some character were underplayed and I didn't like that part of it.

I forgot to say the scene I liked most visually... it's the one where I believe it is Eddie who sees Pennywise with the balloon.

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Funny. I don't specifically remember having a hard time understanding him. But, I'll definitely pick the movie up on Blu Ray when it becomes available, so I will have to see if I notice that issue on my next viewing.

Honestly, I think there were things the new movie did better and there were things the original did better. One example (funny enough it was the Nostalgia Critic who made me realize this) the balloons were, I think, used better in the new movie. For some reason, just the fact that thy were all red helped with making them seem more sinister. In the original, Pennywise used all sorts of differently colored balloons, and I think that sort of made it a little silly.

Pennywise in the original was (generally speaking, of course) a little subtler. Which, to me, was good. There were a lot of the scenes in the new movie where I kind of think they just went too big. Some even literally, such as when Pennywise terrorizes the kids by growing really big and chasing them (with that laughably ridiculous run of his) around a garage. I think it was a garage anyway, but I don't recall for sure.

I am definitely the wrong person to ask about this because movies don't scare me.... (I LOVE horror movies even so) But to me I got more of a vibe that the new movie was scarier. The original was sort of more on the cheesey/campy side. Which I ALSO love. And, make no mistake about it, it was also plenty scary. ...Or I mean I think anyway. LOL! Again, I wouldn't be the right person to ask. But, it just seems to be the new one was definitely scarier and not quite as goofy and campy. That doesn't necessarily mean it was better. Again, I still sort of sit on the fence on that decision. Sometimes I lean towards thinking the original is just a little better, sometimes vice versa.

All in all, I think they were both great and I'm glad that we now actually have them both so we can even be having this discussion in the first place.

I was one of the people who was disappointed in the remake/retelling of the book IT. I didn't like the clown as much, or the kids as much, or things they changed, added. I did like Georgie better and how they did his death, much more gruesome and was hoping since this wasn't for TV they would actually HORROR it much much more and much much more gruesome and scary and it just wasn't. I think I will like Part 2 more with the adult retelling over the kids story.

i wanted more horror aspects and graphics too. but, i guess this wasn't even listed as a horror movie but a thriller /drama genre so that was probably why it didn't go farther and stayed in a relatively safe lane for the younger crowd it obviously was trying to pull the coins from. i am still eager to watch the next movie and hope they get the casting right when it comes to the kids as adults because if they don't that will ruin the movie for me.

i liked how they did it in the old mini-series using familiar tv faces from the time to play the adults, that was probably what made that a success because people were already used to seeing those actors on their small screen and welcomed them into their homes, and it is a lot harder to make it as personal an experience when on the big screen compared to the little screen.

hoping there will be no chris pratt in the next installment as any of the characters, rather not go that way.

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also, i liked the humor of the old version and would have liked more of that in this one, some of the kids had some humor but obviously they wanted to stamp this a different it movie and make people forget about the original pennywise.

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Ahh, that was my favorite scene of the movie! I loved the atmosphere with his lair, and all the bodies floating around it. So creepy and cool!

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Really, women think the Pennywise actor is hot??
I never knew haha, i know attraction is subjective, but I never totally understand that stuff, i was surprised how many women liked Tom Hiddleson as well.

I always think more of Tom Hardy, Ryan Gosling, etc being more the type women are drawn to

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Hi, [MENTION=85795]GLYC[/MENTION] ~ There were some really cool shots in the new IT movie, some really beautiful which seems weird to say for what type of film it was hehehe.

I don't think that actor is hot, I agree with you & would say Gosling over him too.

I watched both movies by now but went away for a susrprise trip, makes me think my bf reads here hehe so didn't write up for dual review yet but will before the new year.

Back to add some more of my IT insight, haha....

I think the book, mini-series and now the new film are the same in a lot of ways, and different in a lot of ways starting from King's book, and others. I think Bill is kept the same, but I think when it comes to graphic content, the book and the new IT film match a lot more than it does with the mini-series which as I think was explained above had to be tamer because was made for TV and censors ruled even more back then so a lot of the more nasty themes of the book and new IT film could not be shown or explored. Mike is the same in the book and miniseries ...but changed in the film, why? He was the keeper of archives.... The clowns to me are very different.... one for chuckles, for frights in the film... The miniseries crammed the two parts together where the film is now making two different movies on this... I prefer this tbh. Beverly's sexuality is more in the book and more in the film or mini series... Racism seems less in film, or I thought so?????? Also, why the dancing clown? I didn't find he danced in the movie, did he? Both is about fears in childhood and explored the same to me only more graphic in the film because they can get past censors unlike on tv unless HBO etc.... Pennywise is more shape-shifting in the other two over what we get to see in the movie, how come since the movie can and could be done so MUCH more visually and yet really didn't... I am hoping the next installment really horrors this franchise up and doesn't shy away from things that I think the mini series and even the movie 1st one did.

I agree with you on almost all you typed above. I actually have to say I enjoyed the mini-series clown for his personality but also preferred the movie IT clown for his more horror feel. I equally did NOT like either of their costumes, mini series Pennywise was basically a circus clown ( on the cheap) and Pennywise movie clown was in a dress?

lmao - i didn't like the look of the new pennywise either ( costume and face makeup) I did like the red eyes though, but the old pennywise clown always reminded me of ronald mcdonald.

Hehehehe ^^^^^^^^^^

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I equally did NOT like either of their costumes, mini series Pennywise was basically a circus clown ( on the cheap)

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Honestly, to me that was what made at least the costume for Pennywise better in the original mini-series. It was subtle. If you didn't know the movie and just glanced at a picture of that Pennywise, you'd think he was just a clown. To me, that was what made it so much more sinister. The fact that he just looked like a clown... but was pure evil and was doing all these really horrible things. Of course, the more monstrous face (when he gets the red eyes and sharp teeth) is cool too, but to me the creepiness of the old design was just so much more subtle.

From the first moment I saw it (way before the movie was even out yet) I thought the new design for Pennywise just looked too obvious. It just screamed "I'M SCARY" It lacked the subtlety that I think actually makes the creepiness/scariness so much more effective. I mean, at least given that sort of monster. It isn't like I'm saying all monsters should be like that. Wolfman shouldn't look like an adorable cuddly puppy until he bites your face off. LOL! But for an evil clown... it's a little MORE creepy/scary when he otherwise looks like just a normal clown.... until he bites your face off. :)

Did you like the new pennywise face makeup? I thought it was too much and why did they give him bunny teeth? To mak ehim appear innocent to little kids when first meeting him? Didn't you prefer the humor of the Orignal Pennywise over the gloom and doom of this version? I guess min Part 2 the clown will appear exactly yhe same? I hope not but I think that is what they will stick with now though, unfortunately.

I laughed at [MENTION=70896]Exeter19[/MENTION] saying Ronald McDonald clown and breathe's imagen in reply :D Would have been funny if new Pennywise threw burgers at the kids but scared to be sued lol

My friend thinks the current Pennywise looks like the Red Queen.

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Hehehehe ^^^^^^^^^^

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lmao. hilarious and truthful all in one.

I didn't like how they made up new Pennywise either, but the old version was just comical but I think for TV that was what was needed there. Wouldn't want him to horrific for the kids to watch and be scared in their own home hahaha Ronald has made us all junkfood junkies...nasty nasty clown haha

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Did you like the new pennywise face makeup? I thought it was too much and why did they give him bunny teeth?

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To be perfectly honest, I loved the entire look of the new Pennywise just fine..... because I love evil clowns. I just didn't like it for the sake of this movie as much as I liked the original. So, even the makeup fall into the same problem for me. The weird teeth included. Again, to me it just made it too obviously scary rather than the subtlety of just looking like a clown... but being pure evil. So, yeah, I agree with the makeup being too much. I still liked it just fine, but I would have liked it being more subtle so that it made it creepier the fact that he was an evil clown.

I like the original It series. I ordered the soon to be released DVD of the newer version. I like a lot of Stephen King book to screen versions. My favorite scene is when the kids throw their food and drinks over the balcony where the bullies are sitting in the movie theater. I've seen many films based on his books. I'd like to see more Creepshow type movies, after he gets back the copyright. Ana Clavell's Taurus company essentially massacred George Romero's creations, by making poor "unofficial" sequels.

[MENTION=71386]TheEvilJester[/MENTION] even the red facial design? Are you excited for part 2? Who would you and [MENTION=86313]Peter A[/MENTION] like to see play the adult versions and what do you hope they put in from the book into Part 2?

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My friend thinks the current Pennywise looks like the Red Queen.

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I can see that now that you mention it.

I oddly had a Pennywise dream... was the new version of the IT clown not the older version probably because it is more in my mind but they were my mailman hahaha and pushed a balloon through a mail slot and when being pushed through and I bent down to grab it ( the balloon) it burst and exploded blood all over my face. WTH? hahaha...my dog was standing behind me barking at everything and ended up getting some residual blood on their little face and fur. My me think I am probably more anticipating the Part 2 because it is adults not kids dealing with this drama/trauma.

I don't think I'd want to dream about Pennywise at all. Pushing this back on the main menu to shut out that spam.