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to care... or not to care.... is up to you
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[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFbs8s3VI6M&feature=related"]YouTube - Ex-Pharmaceutical Rep. Speaks Out[/ame]
to care... or not to care.... is up to you
are you some sort of scientologist
If you think I'm watching your hippy propaganda you've got another thing coming.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHHC5AYAUVI&feature=related"]YouTube - Overview of Pharma Industry Marketing Practices (Pt. 1)[/ame]
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Originally Posted by miSSleepy [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
no scientologists are weird
haha...charlie why even comment?....i love 'your' common senseQuote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Boy II [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
I posted to register my distaste for your hippy garbage.
thanks but it's irrelevantQuote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Boy II [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Gwen Olsen... didn't she have a relative kill themself while taking medications? If so, it seems your source might be a tad bit biased. Anyway, I didn't watch it. We know what it says... there is a giant conspiracy to push drugs on people, blah blah blah.
you havent got a clue what it says....no point in reading what you have to say....btw the second video is produced by the University of California....dummyQuote:
Originally Posted by shh! [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Eco, you are a freaking idiot. You have obviously never had to deal with someone with dementia, and have no clue (as usual) what families suffer through when a close relative is affected. This thread has some importance to Dasein, and it is entirely inappropriate and insensitive to be derailing her thread with your clueless nonsense. Go make your own thread, and please send back Tiay as a representative of your country. She was a helluva lot smarter, and also more sensitive, than you.
[QUOTE=shh!;376405]it seems your source might be a tad bit biased. Anyway, I didn't watch it. QUOTE]
oh you mean i might be using information that is onesided and prejudiced like your bullshit stats huh........
no shh! you are insenstive and ethically wrong to be influencing someone who is feeling unloved and down.....it wasn't about 'dealing' with any mental issues....it was about dealing with a father.....i know what kind of person you are.....keep your recommendations to yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by shh! [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
wow eco. do you even know how to argue?
logic 101, you need it.
[QUOTE=shh!;376408]Eco, you are a freaking idiot. Go make your own thread QUOTE]
this IS my own thread.....mmmm idiot? am I?
Dementia is not a "mental" issue, but rather a neurological issue.
I'm not going to respond to your nonsense anymore out of consideration for Dasein.
EDIT: You see what happens? You spread your bullshit to so many places, I am losing track of which thread I am posting in. :D More coffee!
2nd EDIT: Hah! I think the mods have been working on these idiot posts.
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Originally Posted by misombra [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
i believe i do....i guess thats what the real problem is here....not the content....
vashhhh called it out as bias. which it is. then you threw a fit.
And learn how to quote. Damn hippy.
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I'm not going to respond to your nonsense anymore out of consideration for Dasein.QUOTE]
oh how worthy and good of you....this is about opening your eyes .......and stop working and spreading your influenced ideas on other people when they are very low and upset.....ye THATS great...you're a wonderful person uch
you're not losing your mind. i moved your post. lol. that poor rediculously good looking woman does not need all that drama in her thread. she's already got drama.Quote:
Originally Posted by shh! [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
its not bias....tell me where....when...the second video clearly shows whats going on and has been produced by an unbiased source....explain yourselfQuote:
Originally Posted by misombra [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
EDIT: i don't throw fits....i cont. the debate...which quite clearly a lot of people can't do without getting annoyed....who's having the fit?
Misombra - I thought I was going crazy! :D
and that was my point.....she doesn't need more unnecessary drama.....given my someone who 'thinks' they knowQuote:
Originally Posted by misombra [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
btw Gwen Olsen was a pharma sales rep for 15 years...she may be biased in some ways but also knows a lot....surely its good to have two sides to every story because so far y'all have only accepted one side....the pharma side....the second video is inbiased.....and like i said it's up to you
Don't you do grooming of cancer patients for a living? Don't you realize that without those evil drug corporations, you would lose your client base?
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Originally Posted by shh! [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
shh! since money seems an important point to you in regard to this....which doesn't shock me of course...considering where you're from and what comments you've made throughout lf.......fact is i would prefer to be looking after healthy people....my business was not meant to be based on cancer patients....it is meant to cover all aspects: pregnant mothers, low immuinity and chemically sensitive and the health conscious......but it's nice to see where you stand
Must I really spell it out? Your patients would be DEAD if they didn't take their chemotherapy. Your tirade against medication seems to ignore that fact that they are saving lives of people you actually know.
Anyway, I've had enough of your nonsense.
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Originally Posted by shh! [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
so chemo saves everybody now does it....did we not have a discussion a while ago about some of the treatments and pills created can kill people e.g vioxx and who knows what else.....your argument has no base to my problem with the pharma industry and your insensitive remarks about getting dasein's dad checked over....she needs to deal with what happened....how can you suddenly recommend that her dad may have a medical problem....you disgust me with righteousness......when quite clearly you are ethically wrong....people like you should not be giving advice
Everytime I turn around in a new thread, there's an arguement with Shh! and Eco. Do you guys get a rise out of arguing with one another? I think we should lock em both in one room, let them get their anger out, and come out with no more arguements again ;)
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0J_4gsgCV8"]YouTube - Chris Rock on Drugs, the Government, & the Pills I Need[/ame]
this is funny
that is funny. tone posted that whole chris rock thing. it was pretty funny.
I didn't bother to read all of the drama. Just skimmed.
Of course the woman in the first video is biased. She had a horrible reaction to anti-depressants. I don't know why in the hell her Gen Prac was prescribing anti-depressants anyway. Uh yeah, she just broke up with her husband, of course she's depressed. :D
You're supposed to give SSRI's at least a month to work. You are then (if they aren't working) supposed to cycle off of them and then try starting another, slowly. No wonder she was sick. If you have such adverse reactions to start with, you JUST STOP TAKING THEM.
Honestly, I believe some homeopathic remedies work for certain things. Controlling cholesterol and high blood pressure, sure. Chemical imbalances and brain disorders, maybe not. Dementia does not have a homeopathic remedy. Neither does depression. I know. I have clinical manic depression with OCD tendencies. I don't medicate because: #1 It's mild and easily treated with therapy and a positive outlook, and #2 I was medicating and for every new prescription I was given another. Prozac for the depression, then Welbutrin for the mania, then Melatonin (homeopathic :D ) to help me sleep, then Tylenol with Codeine to treat the headaches. There was no treatment for the hand tremor I developed. So I cycled, SLOWLY, off of them.
I think it was just too much chemical in my body. This woman, knowing that SSRI's were new and could have negative side effects, should've gotten a second opinion from...oh, I dunno...a PSYCHIATRIST? People! Start thinking! It's free, I swear!
I love smoking! I love small babies! healthy babies are just no fun, eat too much and they weigh a ton. Shriveled little babies are the way to go!, I love it when a girl's breath smells like ass and tastes like an ash tray...so ****ing sexy!
of course, this is all about money.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hkjkTe5kZE"]YouTube - Pink Floyd - Money[/ame]
How is it insensitive to suggest that someone might have a health problem? That would seem to be about as sensitive as you can get. And people suggest this all the time on this forum for many different problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by ecojeanne [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Face it Eco, you just took that thread as another opportunity to go off about pharmaceutical companies and to attack Shh about something. You're grasping at straws.
I don't think jeanne is trying to attack anyone or bitch about anything. Why don't you calm down and let people have their entitled opinions?
I for one am against the idea that people in loony bins are oppressed by being the subjects of experiments. Are they really allowed to distribute prototype drugs to people who are in mental hospitals? It sickens me. That is wrong. I don't like it when animals are tested either. Ick. When people are saved at the expense of others, not really worth it in my opinion. Could it really end up that at some point in time the only thing keeping us alive are chronic medications which prevent the diseases from taking over?
If it 'saves lives', does that necessarily mean it is good?
As far as the whole 'conspiracy against drugs' theory crap, I don't really think there is a whole conspiracy. I do, however think there are, and this video is evidence, that there are people who are coming up with medications for complete crap. And speaking of Chris Rock, Robotussin is a load of shit. I never take it when I am sick. But you know what? Let people grind up whatever herbs and horny goat weed they want. Just don't test it on other living creatures before you ingest it. If you're going to experiment with that shit, it should be at YOUR risk.
There have been cases where seat belts have killed people.
Now, regardless as to whether or not they help save many lives and prevent what could be serious trauma... they can KILL PEOPLE! How dare they make seat belts mandatory by law!
This is an outrage!
No seat belts for me!
lilwing, I think you should look up the definition of "prototype". I don't think you are using the word as you intended.
And by the way, welcome back. :D