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Primo... I sent you the request not the other way around.
You didn't get it?
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Derailing thread topics.
Primo... I sent you the request not the other way around.
You didn't get it?
Lol?........
Shetup. Don't laugh at me. :(
Hey, great idea ! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by CocoChanel [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
It's probably me doing all the thread hijacking, they just blame you 'cause you're cute !!! :lol:
I wouldn't do that :DQuote:
Originally Posted by CocoChanel [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
LOL! I get blamed for everything!
And I hope it's not because of that.
I honestly feel people pass too much judgment on women who look a certain way.
I didn't get it CC
Hmm... then I don't know what else to tell you.
As for the messenger thing... add me [email]fashionesse@yahoo.com[/email]
That's because women who "look a certain way" attract more attention than those that, well, don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by CocoChanel [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
That's not the female's fault. It's the people who give all the attention because of what that female looks like.
What way is that? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by CocoChanel [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
When I used to be a skinhead, people gave me more judgmental attention that I would have received otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by CocoChanel [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Whose fault is that?
People choose to look a certain way because they wish to identify with ... whatever the stereotype is (cool, classy, earthy, hip, etc.). It's not rocket science.
Same rules apply.
If I have rainbow bracelet on that doesn't mean I'm gay. I just may like the colors of the damn rainbow. It's all the more reason people shouldn't make assumptions.
Maybe they should, maybe they shouldn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by CocoChanel [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Like I said, I would guarantee that if you were walking down the street alone one night, and saw me walking towards you during my teenage years? There's a good chance you would cross the street.
I wouldn't fault you for that, either.
People are naturally prejudice.
If I saw you wearing a rainbow bracelet I might make the assumption you're a lesbian, then pity you for being discriminated against for not being allowed to marry.
Well see that's the difference and me and most people.
You wouldn't have scared me at all.
A persons genetic make up is not their fault. They shouldn't be treated badly because of stereotypes and assumptions.
If I'm out late and some guy approaches me dressed like a thug I assume he actually is a thug and I keep a very close eye on him until he's gone. It would be incredibly stupid to do otherwise.
Likewise, if I see a girl dressed in skimpy clothes and shaking her ass at every guy at the party, I assume she's easy and I assume she's got every STD in the book.
When I encounter people who can't speak proper English I assume they must be stupid and incompetent.
Sure, I'm wrong sometimes. So what? What do I lose? It's not as if there aren't billions of people swarming this rock like a ****ing infestation. If I alienate a few or even a few hundred I've still got plenty more to encounter. It's no skin off my back. If I ignore the stereotypes and the little voice in the back of my head, on the other hand, I stand the chance at getting mugged, catching the clap or listening to some moron who, despite living in an English-speaking country his whole life, can't seem to grasp the language. Until the nukes fall and the human race is reduced to an infinitesimal percentage of its previous population my tolerance levels are going to remain extremely low.
Don't confuse common sense with stereotype.
If someone APPROACHES YOU then they are stepping into your zone.
You have every right to defend and protect yourself... in some circumstances this is even protected by law.
Pay attention to what I said. I said it's unfair for someone to be mistreated because of their genetic makeup. In this case I specificly pointed out that women who look a certain way (attractive, pretty) are treated badly due to stereotypes. Pretty girls are snobby, self absorbed and some other assumptions and stereotypes.
That is the biggest bull I've ever heard. Pretty girls get away with everything. If they're treated like snobs it's because they are, and they're too conceited to realize it. Can you hardly blame them for becoming snobs when they've got a legion of men drooling over them, laughing at every insipid thing that comes out of their mouths, nodding at everything they say and telling them they're so intelligent and thoughtful?
Please.
Not to say being a pretty girl doesn't come without its own share of difficulties, but that isn't one of them.
Gribble, the legion of men that are doing those things would hardly fit your definition of 'men'. I certainly don't get very interested when a group of frumpy women are stumbling over themselves to get my attention, I doubt you do either...and I'm sure as nice as the attention is, these guys don't affects their ego very much.
It's all relative.
Please, someone say something to restore the tiny shred of faith I had in humanity. Am I the only one who has noticed this? Surely not. Surely someone else is aware that, with few exceptions, virile, heterosexual men treat beautiful women much differently than they do anyone else. It may not be blatant, but it's there.
It's there subtly Gribble...just not in the fly on sh*t mode that people make it out to be. That being said, you still don't see legions of men who have alot to offer fawning over a beautiful woman...if she's taken, or enjoys the attention, some men have lots of 'nexts' waiting to move on to.
You'll find the attention pendulum makes a severe adjustment to the other side once the mid 30's role around too.
That's my point. Whether it's blatant or it's subtle, it's there. Whether a man has someone else waiting or not, it's there for the moment. Take a casual conversation. Cute girl cracks a lame joke and the man laughs anyway. If anything it's the subtle differences that have the biggest impact.
I like this thread as a way to avoid hijacking CC. You're as clever as you are beautiful (Gribble, don't listen to that) :lol:
You know, it must be strange to possess something so beautifully unique in it's design and wonderfully complex in it's application that no one's ever quite figured it out, even the owner themselves...then one day out of nowhere someone comes along and understands everything about it so perfectly and has the ability to see and discover things they didn't even realize or know existed. That's odd isn't it?
My point exactly...
Speak for yourself, Primo. Some of us have it figured.
Gribble--of course.
I use feminine 'wiles' ALL the time to get something done. If its a guy, I'm not above using a big, bright smile and pretending to be a bit clueless about something technical. They know it (they aren't dumb), I know it, but it smoothes the way, you know?
Women are different. The way to get something from a woman (for a guy) is to act charming and request help.
Use whatever strengths & tools you have. Stupid not to.
Speaking of which, I need to get back to it soon.
i've read stuff about how animals and babies play up the cute thing for survival.Quote:
Originally Posted by IndiReloaded [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
off topic: my laptop battery died last night :(Quote:
Originally Posted by misombra [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
They have a pamphlet for that? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by IndiReloaded [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Feminine wiles have a shelf life though, to touch on what Miso said, they don't stay puppies, kittens and babies forever. You have to pick your spots and have the personality to pull it off :)Quote:
Originally Posted by IndiReloaded [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
That goes 10x over for the one's who get it thrown at them continually on a professional level.
personality is everything. a horrible personality could turn the prettiest person into the ugliest beast and a good personality could turn an ugly person beautiful.
lame!!!!!!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by sonrisa [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
No that's true. I saw beautiful women not only get treated unfairly much better than the others (in work place / social situations) but get away with abysmal things that others would get steamrolled for if they dared to act the same way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gribble [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
I haven't written one. Its easy in theory, subtle in practice. Besides, I delegate this kind of thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Yo! Gribble. New writing project for you^. ;)
Oh, but there is a consequence. It may look like they 'get away with it', but not really. They get labelled as 'bitches', even if noone says it. There are effects of this (noone wants to work with you, less likely to give you 110% effort, etc).Quote:
Originally Posted by Mishanya [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Those women rarely make it past a middle manager position. Managing is not the same as leading. Want to guess the main difference?
(back later) ;)
my dog kubla (rip)...
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he used to scare the hell out of grown men, but he was so sweet and gentle that it made up for his ork face.
Strap on some pumps and get gorgeous. Watch how it all works out for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gribble [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Every time you mention this I keep on remembering that youtube video you posted in one of your threads. The one with a girl seeing a TV screen with a pretty model and trying to emulate her look, but each time she gets the look right the TV screen moves further out of reach and the model becomes more spectacular looking leaving the girl trying even harder to emulate her. And it never stops, the motion is perpetual meaning that good looks are never good enough and there is always pressure to look better more and more. I understand how frustrating this can be.Quote:
Originally Posted by CocoChanel [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
I think what Gribble mentioned was more of the outsider perspective on the unfair treatment. For example I was on a bus the other day, two women were standing. One was attractive the other a bit over weight, guess which one was offered a seat? I read this article the other day about a woman seating on a train. She was over weight and occupied two seats and then out of nowhere she was attacked and beaten in full view of every one, the assailant left huge bruises on her face calling her a pig who doesn't deserve to live before escaping. She was beaten because she was over weight and not attractive. If she happened to be attractive, people instead would probably offer her a seat. Seeing or hearing about this kind of treatment is shocking beyond belief. It's things like this that help us form the opinion that attractive people have it much better than the rest.
The reason this conversation started is because Primo and I both agreed that I was blamed for things I didn't necessarily start up. My experiences in this forum have been good and bad. I've made two good friends and a lot of enemies. With that being a shared observation between us, my only point is that I don't fit into the stereotype but I'm often put into the category.
If someone took the time to get to know someone, learn about their struggles, learn about who they are... you just might see otherwise.
I call bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by CocoChanel [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Come down to New Orleans and have a nice evening walk down 2nd and Dryades, we'll see how bold you are then.
I challenge you to go to work with me for one day and you'll see why I wouldn't be intimidated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frasbee [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]