So, what does it take to establish a friend with benefits relationship with you chicks? I am willing to barter full body massages with happy endings.
So, what does it take to establish a friend with benefits relationship with you chicks? I am willing to barter full body massages with happy endings.
Wrong forum for that. Lots of places on the internet will give you this information, or at least try to. This is not one of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by ctr916 [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Nice girls who will let you bang them with no strings??
LOL.
Hmmm... this is challenging.
I hope some chicks or guys here would enlighten us on what to do to achieve this.
I have two words.....Craiges List. Go check out the personals there`s plenty to choose from.
Define 'chick'.
Nice girls don't do FWB
I know one :) But it baffles me, why almost none of the nice girls do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaidenMinx [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
You want a nice girl, and you want just to be be f-buddies with her.
Why??
Do you have commitment problems??
f-buddies are there to feel the gap until you find a nice girl!
I can't speak for the OP but my take on FWB is this:
Not all nice girls want a relationship with you. Or in my case, no nice girl want a relationship with me. But since I still want to **** them, FWB is the second best choice. Sex is fun and we both would get more experienced for the benefit of each of our potential future partner. And everybody would win :)
Why is that? I would think that simply asking chicks for their advice and suggestions would be appropriate in an ask a chick forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathias [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Simply stereotyping and being judgmental does nothing for me. Have any real advice and suggestions regarding the topic?Quote:
Originally Posted by tremolo [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
I have, but many chicks are willing to claim they are nice while playing bad girl games.Quote:
Originally Posted by smackie9 [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Female, ideally 21 or above.Quote:
Originally Posted by IndiReloaded [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Why not? Are you claiming that nice girls don't know how to be friends (with benefits)? I believe you are mistaken.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaidenMinx [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Because they are not really nice, but only claim to be nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yet another guy [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
When did I claim I wanted a booty call relationship or a **** buddy relationship? What I stated was a friend with benefits relationship. In my opinion, a (nice) guy can never have too many (girl) friends (with benefits).Quote:
Originally Posted by FeelingCalledL [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
I only have commitment problems when I am not getting used for sex by all the other ones, and an alleged nice girl tries to manipulate me into a relationship, simply because I am not getting used for sex by all of the other ones.
I am looking for girl friends with benefits, who know how to be friends, even if they are girls.
Let's make this more clear for ctr. Most nice girls will not be friends with benefits for the following reasons:
1 - We always want more. Just sex and being friends will never be enough for a nice girl.
2 - Nice girls feel like something is missing if it's only about sex; many women need to be mentally and emotionally connected to a man to be physically attracted as well.
If you do find a nice girl who is willing to be fwb, it will not last long.
My suggestion....go back to square one and find a bad girl...cause they are the only ones that will want what you want.
Well, add another 10 years to that and you might find a few that are willing. It take a certain indifference/maturity to go for FWB. Assuming you want a woman who isn't suffering from low self esteem issues. Today's 21 year old is not as mature as a generation ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by ctr916 [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Here's the problem with your plan: you need to spend the time becoming friends before you can ever become friends with benefits. Sorry if that's too much trouble for you.
You do bring up some good points, even if they rely on stereotypes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jenswaiting [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
What do you mean by we always want more; what more could we want with a girl friend who is willing to be heterosexual with us as a benefit.
Who said a friend with benefits relationship had to be only about sex as one potential benefit of that relationship. Who claims that women cannot receive sufficient emotional and physical support from a boy friend with benefits? Since it wouldn't always need to be about sex, why could it not last as long as any other relationship that is on an at-will basis?
Actually, I am into full body massage and willing to commit to a one thousand hour relationship with girls who are willing to claim they are my friends, afterward. From my perspective, if a woman is really willing to be a friend with benefits, she should be willing to commit to that relationship.Quote:
Originally Posted by IndiReloaded [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Actually, it isn't too much trouble for me and I don't mind winning girl friends with benefits, as a form of relating and relationships between genders. My problem is I don't have a sufficient petty cash fund for that purpose. I don't expect all women to be repugnant to rational choice theory. In any case, this would not be an issue if I could afford to have nice girls, just love me and just be with me, when I have enough money.Quote:
Originally Posted by VincenzoG91 [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
You do know that most girls don't require you to have money to be friends with you, right? It's more about personality. Work on that instead.
So you expect to get laid for free? You better have some stellar redeeming qualities. Hahahaha... No good looking, self-respecting woman is so hard up for sex that she's going to troll around for NSA from the first guy who offers himself up. I can get foot and head massages from my platonic guy friends if I chose to. And they always take me out for some food. Why would I throw myself at some strange dude looking for a quick lay?Quote:
Originally Posted by ctr916 [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
And Indie is right about the maturity aspect. 21-year olds nowadays are insecure adolescents who are most likely still learning about their own bodies let alone how to please a guy. Those that say they can handle FWB usually end up heartbroken down the line because as another poster stated, many women need an emotional connection to feel the type of attraction that will make them want to go to bed with you. That's why you see easy girls hop into bed with whoever's next in line. They're attempting to fill an emotional void by giving you what you want. But guys like you are so ignorant you actually think it's you they're after. Funny.
Its not that easy. Most nice/ good girls have morals and values. You see, they been put on a pedestal since they were a child. Blah, Blah, I think you know my point is. All the one night stands that I have had, I had to lower my standards to achieve. Believe me its not worth it. It took me a while to realize that I shouldn't use women like this. Its just not right, and its not healthy. Most women are not that easy. If they are, they have major issues and shouldn't be trusted. Think about the STD's. I don't care if you use a condom, there is still a risk. Do you want a love child too. I was lucky to dodge both bullets, and I mean blessed by god, to dodge these bullets. Why don't you meet a woman, take her out, establish a solid, monogamous relationship/ marriage, and have all the sex you want with out all the risks. The only way you could ever get any woman, at any status to have sex with you if your penis taste like chocolate and ejaculates money. Well, that's never going to happen, so take my previous advise.
How much does sex with you cost per minute?Quote:
Originally Posted by lahnnabell [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Would you be surprised if I told that your platonic guy friends are disappointed that their efforts don't result in sex.Quote:
Originally Posted by lahnnabell [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
No, NICE GIRLS DON'T DO FWB ... It's not normal dude.
It depends on the guy. Boyfriend costs nothing but some heavy foreplay and the right dialogue. If my BF were not in the picture and it were a fk buddy... depends on how long I've known this buddy. My solid stand-bys (only about 1 or 2) usually pick up dinner and beer. They'll smoke me up if I feel like it, which is really rare nowadays. But I never give it up to guys who don't show equal respect and appreciation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yet another guy [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Nah, that doesn't surprise me. But they know where the line is and they never dare to cross it. If they took a chance and went for it, who knows? But they stay platonic because they don't have the balls it would take to go further. And of course I don't get those platonic massages when I've got a perfectly devoted boyfriend offering his nightly services.Quote:
Would you be surprised if I told that your platonic guy friends are disappointed that their efforts don't result in sex.
I don't have much respect for people who expect to be compensated for letting someone take care of their satisfaction. Not any more than I do for those who expect to be compensated for taking care of others satisfaction (whores).
Neither do I have much respect for people who take advantage of shy people.
My line of thinking is if a guy wants to screw me, then he better be offering up something in return. This is a personal choice because of the fact that I'm not an easy-to-get-off girl. I enjoy sex anyway, but not to its fullest advantage. More often than not these guys are mediocre to terrible lays because they're incredibly selfish. They start to get frustrated when I don't get off in 10 minutes after they start humping. I don't blame theme entirely. They have a lot of preconceived notions about sex that just aren't true. Most of it they've learned from porn or girlfriends who pretended these guys were the best lays in history just to save their egos.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yet another guy [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
I don't take advantage of my guy friends. I'm perfectly happy to exchange massages with them, or hang out with them, pay for dinner or split the bill. What I meant was that I can often have a better, fulfilling friendship with a platonic guy friend than I can have with a FWB. FWB is a deal, an arrangement. Remember when I said I separate my FWB from my platonic friends? If a platonic friend of mine decided he wanted to jump by bones and got the courage to do it, the relationship would then change and I would never be able to treat him like a platonic buddy anymore. Sex changes things for me. Either a guy can be comfortable with how I handle that, or he can find someone who can give him what he really wants.
And you're feeding their attitude by making them to compensate for the sex. If they've already "paid" for it, it's only fair that their satisfaction comes first, right? By expecting compensation, you attract and are pretty much limited to such deuchbags.Quote:
Originally Posted by lahnnabell [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Not being open about sex, root of many problems :PQuote:
Originally Posted by lahnnabell [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
If the reason they approached me in the first place was for sex, why shouldn't they have to offer something in advance? A smart, discerning woman always knows when a man desires her, the rest just play dumb to be cute. More often than not these guys looking for an easy lay situation don't have the skill set to keep a relationship together, which is why they go searching for an easier route. If I'm looking to have an itch scratched, I'll oblige. I'll even drive myself over to their apartments (and San Diego is not an easy county to traverse in terms of mileage). Makes it sweeter if they wanna offer some sort of compensation. Not saying I accept cash, 'cause I'm not that sort of whore. Like I said, a guy goes looking for a whore/FWB/easy lay, he'll get one. And I like sex. So, it's a win-win really. I'm just smarter about it than most women. Any woman involved in FWB that's not getting directly compensated (via orgasm, food, alcohol, whatever she wants) is filling an emotional void that no guy will ever fix by f*cking her brains out. If she's able to get off from the experience, then good for her! I wish I had that luxury, but alas, I need to be emotionally connected to feel comfortable enough to have an orgasm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yet another guy [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
I'm open about sex to those who really put the time into getting to know me. My boyfriend, for instance, took the time to learn about who I am. We had long conversations about topics we both liked and he laughed together. That means more to me than anything else, and that's what makes sex outstanding for me. The emotional connection. Can I still get an itch scratched from a FWB? Sure. But I'll save the really good stuff for the guy who's truly earned it.
They do offer something in advance. Sex. It's a two way thing. Unless you're offering them a bj or something in which case sure, make them buy something for you if you wish, I won't judge.
This made me lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by lahnnabell [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Most guys that hit up a woman for FWB or to hook up are not looking for a fulfilling friendship. He's looking for a "let's bang then you go home" deal. The LEAST a girl can do is get something in return for being treated like a masturbation tool. I've never been with an easy-lay guy that was concerned about the woman's orgasm. Ideally, yes, sex is a two way thing. But sadly I meet many men who don't have the skills to back up all the talk. Having Godzilla's dick actually probably does you men more justice in the locker room than it ever does with a lady. (not saying size doesn't matter, 'cause it does to a point)
As I said before, I don't get off on NSA sex. I need the emotional connection. I do still have fun when I have sex, but it's never as fulfilling as it is when I'm connected to the person in a deeper way. We see it here all the time on the forums. Girls come crying that hey slept with some "great guy" who treated her so well at first. Then whenever he wants to get back in her pants, he starts pulling out all the charm again. Then they come back crying some more, "I really liked him and I feel so used!" Well, that's cause you allowed him to confuse you. Quit playing dumb and be smarter. If a guy is into you for who you are, then he can wait for it.
Haha, this is why I don't get laid much as a single woman. Guys don't really like that I play the game better than they do ;)
Sex, BJ, c** on my t***... They're getting off, aren't they?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yet another guy [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Or they don't like that you carry on like a "not that type of whore"?Quote:
Originally Posted by lahnnabell [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
Seriously, if you are without regular cock, scratch your own itch. Bonus being you should be able to make yourself orgasm.
Your vagina is not a bartering tool.
Neither is a guy's dick, but they attempt it all the time. They actually expect that a woman's just gonna fall to her knees the moment he says he wants to do her? And then when she expects him to do a little work and take her out before she'll sleep with him, he loses interest and moves onto whoever he thinks is easier?Quote:
Originally Posted by MaidenMinx [Dear Guest/Member you have to reply to see the link.click here to register]
I tend to prefer to scratch, but sometimes it's more fun when someone else is involved. And I'm not saying I go turning tricks on the corner. I'm talking about men that proposition me, but like I said, I don't get laid as much when I'm single :)