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My question is mostly for the ladies I guess, do you think it's fair that girls get treated differently? My friends dad would never allow his daughter to stay past 11 (she's 20) and her brother (19) can stay till 2 no problem. Do you think this type of treatment is unfair and why?
May not be fair, but it is certainly understandable. Girls have a disproportionate burden to bear with regards to physical safety, unplanned pregnancy, etc. and the consequences are higher than they are for boys. This is why fathers tend to be so protective, and I, for one, approve of dads who love and wish to protect their daughters. And I bet her dad would allow her to stay out past 11 if she's doing something productive (meaning not just "hanging out" with nothing special to do).
Parents are always over protective about their daughters, nothing to be surprised about.
I agree with shh.Quote:
Originally Posted by shh!
I can sort of understand the logic behind it.....you don't (usually) have to worry about your son walking down street at night and getting attacked by some pervert. Not to say that guys don't get jumped or anything............but sadly, women are most often targeted as opposed to males. Plus, you don't have to worry about your son getting pregnant.
They should still be given the same curfew though.....bored teenage boys out on the streets late at night sounds like a recipe for disaster to me.
well girls usually are treated differently than boys. boys are taught to be more independent and tough when it comes to situations and problems.
one thing that i do notice is that the younger child always gets the better end of the stick, reguardless which way you look at it.
raverboy
Thats s true. And so annoying dammit. (I was the older one, so I know)Quote:
Originally Posted by Illusional
yup, i am the older one too... my sister gets away with practially everything.
raverboy
I got to disagree i am the younger one and i hate it. My Mom worries so much more about me. Like if i stay out late, but its ok for my sister she live so far away and be able to see there for the summer and they will pay. totally unfair. when she had a guy she was able to go away for a weddin for me its like are you crazy are a nite i drinkin i just wanted to go back to his house and for sure the answer was no
I agree. Girls can be like cats....let them out at night and they come back pregnant.Quote:
Originally Posted by shh!
I think the double standard does suck. I'm all for equality and while I agree there are higher risks for a woman, safety measures can take the place of stricter rules versus boys.
Especially on the pregnance issue. If ever I'd raise a boy, I'd try to raise him into the idea that if you bring a baby into the world, your life should be dedicated to the baby until s/he's old enough to go off on their own. Just because the woman physically has the child doesn't mean she should also do all the work post-birth. So if you're a responsible man, the pregnancy issue is a shared responsibility, not just one for the woman.
And, yeah, parents tend to be more lenient on the younger children..it's like they give up: "Ah, screw it, just do whatever you want..I'm tired of raising you little leeches!".. Ha ha..I'm going to get it from parents for that little joke..
unfortunately a lot of young boys don't see it that way. they're not physically carrying the child so it's easy to either deny that it's theirs or just run away completely.
if i had a daughter i'd like nothing better than to see her in a burka all the time and never leave the house.
but seriously, i'd give him the same curfew too. it's unfair that they get different ones.
Haha, I doubt it dude.Quote:
Originally Posted by nomas
That just sounds like the straight up truth.
haha.. my friend is half pakistani and half philipina and is visiting her parents for the summer (she's twenty one).Quote:
Originally Posted by misombra
but they won't let her go out alone.
See, I can understand the "alone" part more than the curfew. One thing is protecting them toward the risk of attack..another is protecting them from other liberties that a man may be less restricted towards: (sex, drugs, rock n roll...well, maybe not rock n roll..)Quote:
Originally Posted by artyemi
hmmm, she does that when she's here..
and all she wanted to do was dance salsa...
which by the way, i just found out, there will be no salsa on sunday.. there will be salsa on july 4th.. what do you think?
I think so too...Even when they're little kids, I can't tell you how many times I see parents who allow them to wonder off to the street and so on...They end up ruining their life in other ways when they grow up and it's all because their parents didn't give a shit to start with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frasbee
I guess for a lot of people, ignorance is bliss!
My parents never could afford to give me their time, so I wander off in the streets alone since I was in elementary school. What do you expect when they have to raise three kids on $3/hour?
Neither did mine but they still kept with all my happenings and would really let me have it if i did something wrong...which is how i learned...Although, you're missing my point above, I'm talking right from the start though...when you've barely started walking...There's a little kid going out on the street and the parent is totally into chatting with her friends and ignoring it, totally irresponsible!
no, actually, i'm not missing your point.. hehe.. i'm just bored and typing b/s..
i agree it is totally irresponsible..
but nomas was referring to the youngest kid getting it easier because by then the parents are tired of having gone through the other ones..
unless i am missing the point.
either way, what i'm saying wasn't really relating to anything. just a comment i made, not in regards to your post, or any other posts. i just wanted to comment.
but when i was four, my parents were at work, and the woman who was babysitting me didn't realize i left the house and had crossed the street to the other side...
i cried because i was afraid to cross back. another random story..
ahh i see...I guess i got off topic too even though i started the thread..lol...Either way, good points by all you guys.
well, if we all stayed on topic, i imagine it would be pretty boring..
also tests if people were paying attention
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Originally Posted by Sami09
raverboy
It's the way it works around here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Asip4u
We carry on as if having a normal conversation.
Think of when you have a long talk with somebody.
You start off talking about how good your food is, then end up with world politics, to tryin' to figure out what exactly that is on the bottom of your shoe.
lol...good stuff!Quote:
Originally Posted by Frasbee
BTW, I havent had much problems with the forum loading today so we'll see how it goes tomorrow morning.