I felt touched by an angel

[Ellynn]

Just out of curiosity...just how puss do you have to be to actually take a girl out on date at the age of 25 to go DANCING nonetheless, (Read - Vertical Clothed ****ing btw for the slow crowd) and get so choked up because she....uh...hugged you after a few hours on the date.

The only thing that better be getting choked after me dealing with this crap is my chicken, if you catch my drift.

Since you are quite the stud - Let me interpret your date for you: She wouldn't be rubbing her body against you if she didn't feel something for you.

Unless of course, (And this is clearly possible) you whined and talked her into it and she finally went on a sympathy date because you have been annoying the shit outta her for the past few months. And after re-reading your past threads this could obviously be an option.

You want some advice that might actually work? Maybe you need to start listening to someone who isn't such a damn sap as 85% of the people on here who have been patting you on the back as you continuously get shot down like you have for the past 25 years.

Someone like me.

So, in that case, let me give you some real simple basics:

Teh Rules:

#1. Shut the **** up.

All of this "Oh, I have feelings for her", or "Well, we had a talk about us..." or "Well we talked about having a relationship" bullshit needs to stop. Shut the **** up. Stop talking about your future or relationships or your "feelings" for this broad. She doesn't want to hear it. All you are saying to her is whiney obsessive annoying chump. STFU. Talk about everything BUT relationships or love or being together or any of that shit.

#2. Stop wasting your time.

Stop calling her, writing her, thinking about her 23.2 hours of the day. She needs to realize that you aren't the chump lapdog that you are making her think you are right now. I told you not to overdo it with the flowers on your first date, and you ignored that. You said "She didn't freak out like I thought she would"...

Do you really think this chick is going to flat out tell you how much you suck?

No. She isn't going to. You need to back the hell off for awhile and let her know you have your own life. Chicks don't want some sap drooling over them all the time. They want the cool guy. The fun guy. The guy who they can't have. Suckers like you are a dime a dozen. Women want a guy that has a life and doesn't obsess and pine over them like you are.

If you want to win over the little ladies heart, stop making her think you are the only thing she thinks of. Otherwise, like I said before, move out of the way while she goes and bangs some other dude and you are "Teh Shoulder".

#3. Re-Read #'s 1 & 2.

Like Airborne and Ellynn said, it's her move now. Don't call her or talk to her for a few days and see what happens. Period. That means AT ALL. If she wants anything out of you she will come and let you know. Put her on the offensive and let her know you have your own life and you don't read into every little minute detail like a crazed stalker.

Then, if you don't hear anything, call her in about 2-3 days and just be like "Wuddup...?" Don't even talk about the date unless she mentions it. You have to let this chick know you have other things going on in your life other than the picture collection on your wall you have of her.

It is HARSH, but honestly it is true. I mean yeah you might be feeling all these emotional things and are really excited etc. But Cybog has always had a very BLUNT way of breaking things to people....and mostly its true.

There are guys and girls on here that got all emotional about stuff(back in the day)....which usually happens when you first get out there in the dating world and you have your first taste of what you consider "success"....but alot of us have been there......and done that......and have had stuff happen to us.....and have realized the harsh reality of life. We are seriously trying to give you pointers. Its wonderful that you felt those things for her, but honestly that can scare a girl away....if its expressed the way you expressed it to us. We just don't want to see you make the same mistake as many other people have..... Alot of people on here are NOT players either. (Believe it or not) THey just have experience that they want to pass down to you.

I'll admit I like a guy with feelings...but when he gets more emotional then I do about things....it does get on my nerves and for most....it can be a turnoff. Don't put yourself out there so much..... Make her come to you...and want you.

I'm sorry if you felt insulted....but the people here break it down and are very honest. Don't take it personal. We just don't want to see you get hurt. If you feel that this board isn't for you.....then yeah I'm sure there are other places to go. I, personally, think everyone(who is seeking advice) is welcome here....no matter what Lilwing or anyone else says. But you need to do what you feel comfortable with doing.

[Junket]

Well, I "thought" this was a cool place to get some "friendly" advice

No.

You thought this was a place where everybody would tell you what you wanted to hear and not what you needed to hear.

Grow some balls.

[Ellynn]

No.

You thought this was a place where everybody would tell you what you wanted to hear and not what you needed to hear.

.

Yeah thats the thing about advice. You either take it or you don't. You have to have an open mind when it comes to other people's opinions. You can't take it personal. I have gotten advice that in fact I thought was awful......and then advice that I thought was good. The good advice sometimes was what I was hoping NOT to hear.....but it was reassuring just to have it out there. Its good to have an unbiased opinion....and even if its not what you want to hear....its still good to hear it. Honestly its boring if people all think the same thing....or sugar coat everything and agree with you ......for the fear of disagreeing with you. If you want honest....stay with us. Ignore what you want to ignore....and take the advice that you want to take.

[niceguy01]

I like how some of you people like to make assumptions, faulty ones btw, so let me set the record straight once and for all.

Just out of curiosity...just how puss do you have to be to actually take a girl out on date at the age of 25 to go DANCING nonetheless, (Read - Vertical Clothed ****ing btw for the slow crowd) and get so choked up because she....uh...hugged you after a few hours on the date.

Faulty assumption # 1: It wasn't a date at all, she is the one who asked me to go with her, not the other way around.

Unless of course, (And this is clearly possible) you whined and talked her into it and she finally went on a sympathy date because you have been annoying the shit outta her for the past few months. And after re-reading your past threads this could obviously be an option.

Faulty assumption # 2: See # 1. She wanted to go out with ME! not the other way around!

Faulty assumption # 3: I never annoy anyone, she has been calling ME and asking ME to hang out with her. How you can say I annoyed her when you don't know me is simply insulting me.

All of this "Oh, I have feelings for her", or "Well, we had a talk about us..." or "Well we talked about having a relationship" bullshit needs to stop. Shut the **** up. Stop talking about your future or relationships or your "feelings" for this broad. She doesn't want to hear it. All you are saying to her is whiney obsessive annoying chump. STFU. Talk about everything BUT relationships or love or being together or any of that shit.

Faulty assumption # 4: Apart from the time I told her how I felt, I haven't mentioned it since, I don't talk about that stuff, she knows how I feel, it's up to her to make the next move.

Stop calling her, writing her, thinking about her 23.2 hours of the day. She needs to realize that you aren't the chump lapdog that you are making her think you are right now.

Faulty assumption # 5: As I said, I barely call her, she has been calling me lately. I told you I was very busy, I don't think of her 24 hrs a day. I don't see her every day, I have turned her down before when she asked to hang out, she knows about my schedule. She certainly knows I ain't no "chump lapdog"

Faulty assumption # 6: I never cried last night, I hid my feelings from her. I said "I felt so happy I could have cried" didn't mean I cried.

If you want to win over the little ladies heart, stop making her think you are the only thing she thinks of. Otherwise, like I said before, move out of the way while she goes and bangs some other dude and you are "Teh Shoulder".

Ok, this is what really pissed me off, because you not only insulted me, but you insulted my friend. You make her out to be the slut of the night or something, she hasn't been in a serious relationship for a few years. I don't like giving out details about my friend on msg boards, that wouldn't be right, but she has gone thrrough serious shit, and let me tell you, she has class, she wouldn't just go out and **** anyone she could. Why make her out like that?

Anyways, I don't need any of your help anymore, I ain't going to follow advice on some damn msg board, I'm following my heart on this one. And my heart is telling me she is falling for me, there is much more evidence to back this up, but that means talking about my friend, which I ain't gonna do here. Plus, I have my best friend who has dated her before and with whom I can confide in and he's telling me it's looking good. So, I don't know why I bothered here really.

Ellynn, thanks for your help, you are really cool, as for the others, as they say, thanks for nuttin'

[Cybog]

btw. How would your "friend" know anything...?

They obviously aren't dating anymore, so any advice he gives you should be chucked right out the window. But you go right ahead and follow his advice and see where it leads you. Good luck with that shoulder thing.

[Ellynn]

No problem Niceguy.....

Good Luck!

[bluesummer]

It's so annoying when people come on here, post something, don't get the answer they want, then have a temper tantrum and run away. Sigh.

I'll tell you now, my friend, I got a few slaps in the face when I first came on here and it was far better advice than I was getting from my close personal friends.

[Junket]

[Airborne]

Yes, I have been spending time with her, because SHE wants me too! .

If you are so sure of this why don't you come straight out and ask her out on a date in a relation ship? Good Luck Dude!

[niceguy01]

btw. How would your "friend" know anything...?

They obviously aren't dating anymore, so any advice he gives you should be chucked right out the window. But you go right ahead and follow his advice and see where it leads you. Good luck with that shoulder thing.

Simple! they are still very good friends, they dated for a bit, saw that it was going nowhere, so they both mutually ended it. But, they are still good friends, she confides in him, as do I. And, he lets me in on what she says about me.

If you are so sure of this why don't you come straight out and ask her out on a date in a relation ship? Good Luck Dude!

Like I said earlier, it takes her time to warm up to people, especially in regards to serious relationships. That's because she's been in a very rough one in the past which I will not describe here. So, she takes her time. It took my friend over a year before they started dating, and she rejected him at first. She knows how I feel about her, told me she was glad she knew how I felt, so now I'll wait for her to make the next move, but she has been giving me positive signals lately.

Anyways, just got off the phone with her, she wants to spend time with me again tonight, I can't though, need to work on my biz, but we are going to the beach tomorrow, so this is now 6 days in a row she wants to spend time with me, take it as it is. I see nothing but positive signs here.

[lilwing89]

Anyways, I don't need any of your help anymore, I ain't going to follow advice on some damn msg board, I'm following my heart on this one. And my heart is telling me she is falling for me, there is much more evidence to back this up, but that means talking about my friend, which I ain't gonna do here. Plus, I have my best friend who has dated her before and with whom I can confide in and he's telling me it's looking good. So, I don't know why I bothered here really.

Ellynn, thanks for your help, you are really cool, as for the others, as they say, thanks for nuttin'

do you expect us "others" to be offended by that?

wow you mustve really got offended by that..nowonder your name is "niceguy"...

yay! no more long ass messages..those were like pages from the bible-i mean, they were so long!

[Late_vamp]

hey , werent you supposed to leave already , geez . If your gonna give your goodbye's then don't show up again .