What would you do if you were in my position

[Only-virgins]

How do you know?

If you've never had either, how can you know? you can imagine, but I doubt you can really know.

Know what? that there is a difference? or know what I want?. Does it matter, it is as clear as day. I find it amusing when people make relationships sound like roccket science. The interaction between two people is easy to imagine and assume. What is so special about a relationship with a girl that has to be "experienced" to understand? the sex? the bull shit talking about useless nothing? haha what ever.

[Rosebud]

Trust me OV, it's not as simple as you make it. There will be tons of times you will be confused by something she did or said, or not know how to handle a situation without either hurting her or yourself. The time will come!

[Only-virgins]

Trust me OV,

No. Do you have any evidence?


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[Tone]

No. Do you have any evidence?

Yes - she's been in several relationships before, whereas you've been in none.

I find it amusing when people make relationships sound like roccket science. The interaction between two people is easy to imagine and assume. What is so special about a relationship with a girl that has to be "experienced" to understand? the sex? the bull shit talking about useless nothing? haha what ever.

OV, if you think it's so easy - why do you think people have so much trouble? Is it because everyone just isn't as smart and don't have things figured out like you do?

Man, you're in for such a big suprise. You are so oblivious to how things really work outside your own imaginary world you have in your head.

[clynn]

Yah, sometimes it'll really throw you how two people who care so much for each other can manage to cause each other so much grief.

These days I reconcile myself with it by thinking, "it's okay, he's a man".

[carpflounder]

Well have I told you that my dick is bigger than your dick..yet?

Chalk it up as a thrust. He is young. And ya know, love ....shmuv. So who really gives a ****? Your all in it for your own shit. Not for love..but your standards and an ideal of love, but not true Love.

[Rosebud]

No. Do you have any evidence?


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Evidence? yes I do, have you read any of threads? probably not because you would have no advice to give because you have not been in that situation before. yes I have all kinds of things to back up the fact that relationships aren't easy. But unless you go through it you'll never understand it my dear!

Like Tone said why do you think this whole Forum was designed? For a place where people can come to talk about their relationships and find answers to problems they ahve the opposite sex. If relationship problems didn't exist why would this site?

[iLLuSioN_x]

Five more months now till she turns 18.. and we had a huge fight on this matter one hour ago.
Friends drive me crazy by telling me "Wow you have a one and a half year relationship you're like in your 18's and you didn't do it? OMG!"

Is this so extreme?
Sorry for bugging you guys but I think you are the only ones who can give me genuine information to make me feel better and make this shit go faster.
My best friend which is 1 year younger just had sex with his 5 month-partner and I know I should be happy for them but instead it really screws me up
Did any of you guys waited for almost 2 years before going to bed with a girl which you loved and who loved you back, for all kind of different reasons? If yes please, feedback.

Thanks.

[King Zarathu]

Yeah, I had to learn the hard way. If it's difficult, don't waste your time and just leave. Otherwise stay with her. I made threads when I first came here (a long time ago) and that's what I had to do. I waited a year and a month before fingering her, we never even had intercourse.

I left afterwards though, I couldn't put up with her shit >.<

[bluesummer]

I met my bf when we were both 17, and he waited a whole year for me, and never pressured me. I really respected him for that. To me, it proved he really cared about ME and not getting laid (or peer pressure from his friends....which he too got a lot of). So that's probably how your gf feels too.

Besides, until then, there are plenty of other things you can do besides sex.

[Only-virgins]

Five more months now till she turns 18.. and we had a huge fight on this matter one hour ago.
Friends drive me crazy by telling me "Wow you have a one and a half year relationship you're like in your 18's and you didn't do it? OMG!"

Is this so extreme?
Sorry for bugging you guys but I think you are the only ones who can give me genuine information to make me feel better and make this shit go faster.
My best friend which is 1 year younger just had sex with his 5 month-partner and I know I should be happy for them but instead it really screws me up
Did any of you guys waited for almost 2 years before going to bed with a girl which you loved and who loved you back, for all kind of different reasons? If yes please, feedback.

Thanks.

Shut the hell up and wait the god damn few freaking months..its only months now and your complaining?...shut up, lol your in for a disappointment though...sex is over-rated...not as much as relationships are but never the less its overrated like crazy.

[daletom]

Five more months now till she turns 18.. and we had a huge fight on this matter one hour ago.
Friends drive me crazy by telling me "Wow you have a one and a half year relationship you're like in your 18's and you didn't do it? OMG!"

Is this so extreme?
Sorry for bugging you guys but I think you are the only ones who can give me genuine information to make me feel better and make this shit go faster.
My best friend which is 1 year younger just had sex with his 5 month-partner and I know I should be happy for them but instead it really screws me up
Did any of you guys waited for almost 2 years before going to bed with a girl which you loved and who loved you back, for all kind of different reasons? If yes please, feedback.

Since you asked, for the record: I was 23 when I gave my virginity to my wife, and received hers in return. I had met her one year and 14 days prior to that, and had loved her for at least 356 days before that evening.

Yes, that was unusual. (My generation, after all, had oral contraceptives available as soon as we were old enough to need them, had declared the "Summer of Love", made "Woodstock" what it was, and coined all of the phrases "Free Love", "If it feels good, do it!", and "Sex, drugs and rock-n-roll forever!".)

She wanted to be a virgin when she married. She had seen other girls (her younger sister, for one) go through life-changing circumstances due to premarital pregnancy. She had religious convictions. She asked me to wait. Because I respected her, and cared for her - I waited. I wasn't as firmly convinced about her reasoning, but I had to admit that there wasn't much harm in waiting. In the meantime we actually learned about lovemaking, through non-coital intimacies like kissing, necking, fondling, massage, petting, and oral sex. OK, I'm not going to quibble with those who say we were only "technical virgins", not "real virgins" - the point is that we we committed ourselves to certain limits, respected each others' wishes, and helped each other stay within those limits. I think it helped make us a stronger couple.

"iLLuSioN_x", I'm disturbed by the tone of your posts. I'm not sure you really respect and care for this girl you love. Sex seems to be the primary aspect of your relationship. I admit it's a big part of many relationships but you make it sound like the ONLY thing that keeps your attention.

The way you compare yourself to other couples also bother me. Is your G/F primarily a social status-symbol; a "ticket" that earns you points because you're part of a couple? Are you losing some kind of a contest with your best friend because there are more notches carved in his bedpost than yours? If your G/F really IS the primary person in your life perhaps you should be looking for another best friend.

There probably ARE girls who will have sex with you, and whose basic outlook toward sex is similar to yours. They may not be easy to find but if you're convinced that sex is a very pleasurable activity that two people can casually enjoy together, much as two people might enjoy a concert or a round of Pinochle, then you should consider trying to find someone with similar beliefs rather than trying to change your G/F's convictions.

[Only-virgins]

Is it because everyone just isn't as smart and don't have things figured out like you do?

Yes, this is the smartest thing you have ever said. Good job tone. Someone should give you a cookie.

Evidence? yes I do, have you read any of threads? probably not because you would have no advice to give because you have not been in that situation before.

Your experiences are not my evidence. They are yours, so convince me.

[dono]

Shut the hell up and wait the god damn few freaking months..its only months now and your complaining?...shut up, lol your in for a disappointment though...sex is over-rated...not as much as relationships are but never the less its overrated like crazy.

Wait a secong, I am still confused. Is OV a virgin or not? Has he had any real relationships, or actually been in love? I'm beginning to think not.

OV, I don't believe sex or relationships are overrated. If you've never been in love, or made love, you wouldn't know.

After all, "The greatest thing you'll ever learn Is to love and be loved in return." I believe that was an account of someone who's actually been there.

[Converse]

Shut the hell up and wait the god damn few freaking months..its only months now and your complaining?...shut up, lol your in for a disappointment though...sex is over-rated...not as much as relationships are but never the less its overrated like crazy.

Bwahaha! *must restrain myself*