Racism?

[tooxshort]

I just hope that with Obama as president, there's a much better outlet available for minorities in America. We used to grow up thinking the "thug" mentality was the way to go, but at least there's more opportunity ... Shit ... One of us can become president of the U.S. of A?! I'm not black, but a black (or half-black) president was the first step ... and a huge one at that.

[ecojeanne]

and btw the people judging me are my age or younger wtf, like they even know whats it's like to suffer....ridiculous, you know what if an old (and i mean OLD black guy) started getting racist with me, i'd be ok with it coz he has issues that need consideration, but fck anyone my age giving me shit about being white....and i wasn't even involved but i will appreciate the feelings (with the old guy), coz i'm a nice person! lol no really i would take that into account tho

[The_bobb]

No; I just used black people as one example.

And i used Jewish people as one of three examples... I hope you don't think i'm trying to write off all these horrible things as trivial events?

I'm just saying that it's not fair to hold a generation (and the generations after that) accountable for something that they didn't commit. Nor do i think it's RIGHT for someone from a generation that hasn't felt the effect of the incident to act out violently (verbally and physically) for said incident.

If we followed THAT rule, then i'm sorry to say, history WILL repeat itself, over and over. Only the next time the roles will be reversed... And it'll continue this cycle UNTIL someone stands up and doesn't hold the Innocent responsible.

[DoesntMatter]

I don't like it when anyone tries to make their race look like a handicap. I don't like it when 25 year old minorities claim their minority status has made it harder for them when it was their PARENTS who had the real shit to deal with, NOT them. I don't like it how white people claim reverse racism is tolerating one-sidedness

I don't like it when people deny the Holocaust, and I don't like it when people feel that ethnic Germans should flog themselves in their closet to repent for something they themselves did not do

I know these things aren't exact opposites in any way but close enough

I use to care about these things at one point too, and now I realize that every side sucks so much dick that all I want to do is argue the opposite, because I feel the points so strongly on both sides of some of these general "race" issues

[vashti]

And i used Jewish people as one of three examples... I hope you don't think i'm trying to write off all these horrible things as trivial events?

I'm just saying that it's not fair to hold a generation (and the generations after that) accountable for something that they didn't commit. Nor do i think it's RIGHT for someone from a generation that hasn't felt the effect of the incident to act out violently (verbally and physically) for said incident.

Actually, yes it DID sound that way to me. I'm glad you didn't mean it to sound that way, though.

I don't condone violence of any kind, but I don't really see any of the groups you mentioned acting out violently in protest, and most certainly not with Asians or Jews. Poor blacks have had their riots over the years, but I don't consider riots to be valid forms of protest.

[The_bobb]

No i'll give you that, the other 2 examples were probably bad examples for the point i was trying to make. I just needed recent events that people could relate with.

But you can't deny the animosity some people from these groups feel towards the race/religion the guilty party belonged. And i'm saying i think it's wrong. And unwarranted.

And honestly in a small way, it annoys me.

Again sorry if i trivialized anything. The problem with text, it doesn't convey tone or facial expressions too well.

[Junket]

I'd like you all to make your final statements.

[IndiReloaded]

I'd like you all to make your final statements.

You can tell a lot about the history of an egg from its shape?

[The_bobb]

Final statement, "Racism Sucks"

[CocoChanel]

It's because of the height! In Central Africa and some of the Northern and West... Africans are an outstanding height! They have long legs and can run really fast. Because of those traits, it makes them perfect for running and jumping sports such as basketball.

Also, in ghetto's, the government didn't waste their time with expanding the recreation for the poorer communities. A basketball court is probably the cheapest form of recreation. So that is what most African Americans did to entertain themselves.

[Aeradalia]

I'd like you all to make your final statements.

Treat people based on their character... not their race... If a person is qualified for a job they should have the same opportunity as the next qualified person.

Holding onto grudges of a passed generation is ridiculous, especially as more and more people have mixed heritages.

And, there will be a naturally disproportionate number of races in any given area even if their rights were truly equal (even in a perfect world) --- in some areas it will be mostly white, some areas mostly black... etc --- thus leading to more of one race being hired than another because that is what's more available locally.

Playing the race card hurts a race more than it helps --- it attributes to seemingly validating many commonly held stereotypes. If you want to win the argument, get the job, or earn the scholarship then better your other qualities or have a better understanding of the processes that are holding you back. You have a brain, use it.

If you want equality, you will have to start by treating the other races as having an equal opportunity to succeed as well. You'll also have to understand that other people have an equal opportunity to fail as well. If 50% of whites live in trailer parks (made up statistic just to prove a point), then the other 50% of whites can live with the fact that such people just don't care... or they can become proactive about their race and encourage them to do better. No need to go to the government and act as though they are being held back by their race. This may be a matter of attitude by the race itself --- if the environment is heading more towards equality of success and failure --- then it clearly isn't because of the environment holding them back.

At some point all of these 'benefits' that favor one race more than another needs to be limited once equality is achieved. That's the point isn't it? To have all the races have an equal opportunity to succeed? Leaving preferential treatment for a few races over another changes nothing.. other than swapping out which races will have it better than another.

I think we are heading in the right direction... but must not lose sight of what we want --- racial equality. Being distracted by all the other stuff risks leaving us forever dependent on a person's race to judge them and not their character... It's the fact that a person is smart enough and determined enough to do their job that should matter in the workplace --- not how much or how little of light their skin absorbs.

[Only-virgins]

we are not talking about history. we are talking the way they are treated now.

They are treated better than white people do to liberal idiots who fear racism itself.

[misombra]

final statement: i still don't like white people.

[Aeradalia]

final statement: i still don't like white people.

Aside from that flaw in you... I still find you to be a relatively nice person...

[misombra]

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww! lol.

just for that i will really really try to see past the flaws of white people.