kill the poor.

[Lite]

much more of a disconnect when you live as far north as you do.

Prior to moving here I lived in a mini barrio in Phoenix, AZ. My house was robbed twice by illegal immigrants, property vandalized, a month before I moved someone was shot less than 300 feet from my front door.

When I first moved there 2 illegal teens executed 2 non illegal Hispanic teens who were working at Subway one evening.

Trust me, I've seen up close and personal the problems w/ immigration, and poverty.

[misombra]

2 people? what about the scores of immigrants that come in and work their asses off for very little pay and no benefits or appreciation?

non immigrants commit crimes too. i don't see how it is an immigrant problem.

[nomas]

Prior to moving here I lived in a mini barrio in Phoenix, AZ. My house was robbed twice by illegal immigrants, property vandalized, a month before I moved someone was shot less than 300 feet from my front door.

Wow, you knew who robbed you and whether they had a green card or not. How'd you find that out? I assume, since you caught them, both times, you retrieved all your belongings, no problem, right?

When I first moved there 2 illegal teens executed 2 non illegal Hispanic teens who were working at Subway one evening.

Trust me, I've seen up close and personal the problems w/ immigration, and poverty.

You seem to keep close tabs on which criminals have residence and which don't, and based on your research, you can significantly reduce the crime rate in the US by granting everyone amnesty. After all, illegals are the ones who commit the crimes, right?

You are quickly loosing credibility in my book.

[DoesntMatter]

If the US didn't gain the southwest territories during the Mexican-American War, it would have been just as much a shithole as Mexico is now. It's too bad our southern neighbors can't be as civil as our northern neighbors. At least they don't have an undeserved sense of superiority

[nomas]

The common denominator is always money, as sombra says.

Yes, generalities have some basis on reality, but it's not a matter of civilized vs uncivilized people. You will find people at both ends of your definition of "civilized" in any country, and you'll find that in most cases the separation is parallel with money, which is also linked to education in most cases. It is too easy to criticize, that's just making a general observation. Try to analyze root causes behind trends.

[misombra]

If the US didn't gain the southwest territories during the Mexican-American War, it would have been just as much a shithole as Mexico is now. It's too bad our southern neighbors can't be as civil as our northern neighbors. At least they don't have an undeserved sense of superiority

they don't? could've fooled me.

[DoesntMatter]

Well Canadians think they are the cosmopolitan good-will ambassadors of the world, although who they think appointed them is beyond me

[misombra]

If the US didn't gain the southwest territories during the Mexican-American War, it would have been just as much a shithole as Mexico is now.

i was just reading in a book about the rio grande. in the book it says that natives left no mark on the ecosystem of the river, then when the spaniards came there was still relatively little impact. only when anglo settlers came was when dams when up and the river started going to shit.

so i do believe you are wrong. do some homework before you go spouting off some ignorant shit.

[DoesntMatter]

i was just reading in a book about the rio grande. in the book it says that natives left no mark on the ecosystem of the river, then when the spaniards came there was still relatively little impact. only when anglo settlers came was when dams when up and the river started going to shit.

so i do believe you are wrong. do some homework before you go spouting off some ignorant shit.

Hahaha.... do you know what you're saying? My talk about Mexico being a shithole had to do with the level of corruption, the super low standard of living, and the absent economy. Compare Mexico to the US in that regards, and THAT is what qualifies my statement that Mexico is a shithole compared to the US

In other words, there would be corruption, poverty, no economy, and lawlessness in the SW now if it still belonged to Mexico

[misombra]

lol. ::waits for somebody with some knowledge and insight to come in here::

[DoesntMatter]

lol come on misombra, that's ALL you and other social liberals ever say in response to things like that. I'm "ignorant."

The easiest fact to look up of what I mentioned was pay, and the average US salary is almost five times higher than that of the average Mexican

$47,000 vs $10,000

[misombra]

dm did you even read this thread?

[LadieNisha4u2nv]

Misombra did you get my pm?

[misombra]

oh yeah shit i forgot! i'll look into it right now...

[DoesntMatter]

dm did you even read this thread?