Tipping = bat shit retarded.

[starbuck]

Here in NYC we tip for EVERYTHING. Restaurants, coffee barristas (tip jar! your favorite thing, Vash!), coat check people, bartenders, cab drivers who take us on deathrides (whee!), manicurist, haircutter, etc., If I got angry everytime I had to fork over a tip, I'd have super-high blood pressure. I figure if I don't want to tip, I'll just not take a cab or eat out or get my nails done.

Honestly, though, you're better off with a tipping custom in place than being automatically charged more. At least with tipping, you have the option of tipping less if you feel the service wasn't good. Just tip badly or not at all. You either tip to reward someone for good service or you do it out of social pressure. You're never forced to.

[BoredGeorge]

No, I am truely hideous. I was not hired based on my looks. You're calling MY personality ugly? That's cute. Maybe I do have a nasty personality, you however need to take a look in the mirror. Check out how many insults you've thrown around based on no facts, not one whatsoever.

Insults based on facts are cruel, I only insult people when it isn't true.

[girl68]

Oh so, you don't think I'm a dumb, airhead waitress that doesn't deserve a tip?

[bluesummer]

I just don't tip when I don't feel it's due. That is all. No one is 'entitled' to a tip. If they're friendly and efficient and don't **** up my order, they get a tip. That's what the tip is for. I don't reward shitty service.

Case in point: my friend and a group of others had birthday lunch at a local restaurant. Someone forgot to pay their share, and consequently, it made for a smaller tip. The ladies agreed that the smaller tip was fair, since their server hadn't been very friendly and had messed up two of their orders (and was quite unapologetic for it). The restaurant manager got very mad at them and told them they had to leave a bigger tip, to which my girlfriend said "No, we're leaving a tip that reflects the level of service we received. This is what tipping is for. We received poor service, and she's lucky to be getting anything at all." Again, he got mad and told them she only makes minimum wage, and they're required to tip to top up her wages. To which my friend replied "Well maybe you should pay your staff better." He didn't like that.

[BoredGeorge]

wow... he yelled at you to leave a bigger tip ? That is really messed up. I try to defend the working class but waitresses make it hard and piss everyone off. I can'tdefend them. They should jsut get real jobs maybe in retail and see what it is like to actually work for money.

[girl68]

Guess what? Guess I'm well versed in serving folks. I've done both serving and sales. Serving is way harder. But of course, you know best right George?

[BoredGeorge]

Guess what? Guess I'm well versed in serving folks. I've done both serving and sales. Serving is way harder. But of course, you know best right George?

Yes because I do not have bias opinion like you do.

[girl68]

You have been a server before? I thought all servers were hot girls who were bimbos... pretty sure you don't fit that description.

[doppelgaenger]

Yes because I do not have bias opinion like you do.

This, my friends, is irony.

A guy who has never waited on anyone saying tips are 'bat shit retarded' and then saying his opinion is not biased.

[BoredGeorge]

This, my friends, is irony.

A guy who has never waited on anyone saying tips are 'bat shit retarded' and then saying his opinion is not biased.

A person who has waited tables has vested interest in getting more money, whether historically or currently it is in their interest to promote tipping.

Me I have no vested interest because it does not affect me. I think tipping is stupid just because I think it is stupid. Makes no difference to me I can decide not to tip.

A waitress has a lot more depending on tipping. Such as her lavishly over endulgent life style.

[girl68]

I love how you completely ignored the fact that you think you're not biased and 2 people have pointed out that yes, in fact you are biased. You have not ever had to serve someone in a restaurant. You my friend are VERY biased.

[BoredGeorge]

I love how you completely ignored the fact that you think you're not biased and 2 people have pointed out that yes, in fact you are biased. You have not ever had to serve someone in a restaurant. You my friend are VERY biased.

How in the hell does not having a conflict of interest in this discussion make me bias ?

I have never waited tables so that makes me bias.

But a person who has waited tables is NOT bias in a discussion about waiting tables and TIPPING ?

Thats like having a discussion with a real estate agent about real estate fees and saying he or she is not bias because they've been a real estate agent.

I would have thought my opinion is much more independant and impartial as I have no attachment to the industry at all !

And also : because 2 people said it just means that 2 people are wrong. Sheep mentality much ? Baa baa ?

[girl68]

this post is...

a face palm-er

[doppelgaenger]

How in the hell does not having a conflict of interest in this discussion make me bias ?

I have never waited tables so that makes me bias.

But a person who has waited tables is NOT bias in a discussion about waiting tables and TIPPING ?

Thats like having a discussion with a real estate agent about real estate fees and saying he or she is not bias because they've been a real estate agent.

I would have thought my opinion is much more independant and impartial as I have no attachment to the industry at all !

And also : because 2 people said it just means that 2 people are wrong. Sheep mentality much ? Baa baa ?

Wahahahhahahhaa!

This kid is 4chan material.

[MVPlaya]

How in the hell does not having a conflict of interest in this discussion make me bias ?

I have never waited tables so that makes me bias.

But a person who has waited tables is NOT bias in a discussion about waiting tables and TIPPING ?

Thats like having a discussion with a real estate agent about real estate fees and saying he or she is not bias because they've been a real estate agent.

I would have thought my opinion is much more independant and impartial as I have no attachment to the industry at all !

And also : because 2 people said it just means that 2 people are wrong. Sheep mentality much ? Baa baa ?

George, while this argument theoretically makes perfect sense in a vacuum, or otherwise wholly disassociated from you, its pretty laughable coming from you. You are one of the most biased people I read on these forums and your hatred of women is the one you display most prominently.