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    Quote Originally Posted by doppelgaenger View Post
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    Friends and family doing similar sorts of jobs to get by.

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    So, I teach...I tell the students, "Papers due tomorrow." Thirty percent of the students come to class without the completed assignment. They should all be failed, right? Oh, not according to the "system" which tells me that I have to be "reasonable" and accept the papers late, but with a minimal penalty. Don't be "reasonable" and they teaching evals (which are considered God's Holy Word by administrators) won't be good...student retaliation against authority. Students blatantly cheat and the "system" tells me to give them another chance.

    My point is that the system, currently controlled by the 1960's and 1970's crowd, is broken. The joblessness is a function of the ruling elite generation's arrogance and near-tyrannical grip on US society. We live in deeply troubled times and they will get worse. Everyone's comment is dead on right. The US employment situation is horribly reported, fabricated and swept away from the news so as to shield Dear Leader. The US is so financially destroyed at this point as to be near impossible for recovery to occur, barring a miracle of near Biblical proportions. And, the "children" as noted above offer little hope. there are good and smart kids but they are far-outnumbered by lumpen proletariat who only suck of the teat of society and will offer little in return.

    At this point, I am just trying find a perch, high enough so the rising waters don't reach me. Hopefully, there will be some good students on that perch as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAM View Post
    So, I teach...I tell the students, "Papers due tomorrow." Thirty percent of the students come to class without the completed assignment. They should all be failed, right? Oh, not according to the "system" which tells me that I have to be "reasonable" and accept the papers late, but with a minimal penalty. Don't be "reasonable" and they teaching evals (which are considered God's Holy Word by administrators) won't be good...student retaliation against authority. Students blatantly cheat and the "system" tells me to give them another chance.

    My point is that the system, currently controlled by the 1960's and 1970's crowd, is broken. The joblessness is a function of the ruling elite generation's arrogance and near-tyrannical grip on US society. We live in deeply troubled times and they will get worse. Everyone's comment is dead on right. The US employment situation is horribly reported, fabricated and swept away from the news so as to shield Dear Leader. The US is so financially destroyed at this point as to be near impossible for recovery to occur, barring a miracle of near Biblical proportions. And, the "children" as noted above offer little hope. there are good and smart kids but they are far-outnumbered by lumpen proletariat who only suck of the teat of society and will offer little in return.

    At this point, I am just trying find a perch, high enough so the rising waters don't reach me. Hopefully, there will be some good students on that perch as well.

    It's divide and conquer from the inside out. There will be no recovery, just collapse as intentionally engineered.

    There aren't many perches high enough to escape it and it's fast approaching.

    Most are happy to pretend otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Durian View Post
    It's divide and conquer from the inside out. There will be no recovery, just collapse as intentionally engineered.

    There aren't many perches high enough to escape it and it's fast approaching.

    Most are happy to pretend otherwise.
    Well, considering that Dear Leader is a Kropotkinite anarcho-communist, it is tempting to agree that it is "intentionally engineered." Accepting that idea would mean giving them too much credit for competent planning. And, they can be blamed only insofar as we are willing to accept the blame for acceding to the regular demands of the Me Generation folk. They have done a stellar job of destroying our social and political institutions through their shabby treatment of all and everything. They don't plan these things...it is more like the giant who crushes everything without knowing or caring or even comprehending. They speak of "sustainable" society and yet every choice they make is entirely unsustainable, unrestrained in its pursuit of hedonism in various forms. That generation had a song that fits them to a tee--Live for Today. And, to hell with the consequences because someone else will have to deal with that. And, they'd pretend that they aren't greedy evil bastards...their music did what they like...lied to them about their greatness and humility...phony commies. For them, it was trendy to pretend they care when in fact they care only about themselves.

    [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnFZsrs32Co]YouTube - Grass Roots - Let's Live For Today[/url]

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAM View Post
    Well, considering that Dear Leader is a Kropotkinite anarcho-communist, it is tempting to agree that it is "intentionally engineered." Accepting that idea would mean giving them too much credit for competent planning. And, they can be blamed only insofar as we are willing to accept the blame for acceding to the regular demands of the Me Generation folk. They have done a stellar job of destroying our social and political institutions through their shabby treatment of all and everything. They don't plan these things...it is more like the giant who crushes everything without knowing or caring or even comprehending. They speak of "sustainable" society and yet every choice they make is entirely unsustainable, unrestrained in its pursuit of hedonism in various forms. That generation had a song that fits them to a tee--Live for Today. And, to hell with the consequences because someone else will have to deal with that. And, they'd pretend that they aren't greedy evil bastards...their music did what they like...lied to them about their greatness and humility...phony commies. For them, it was trendy to pretend they care when in fact they care only about themselves.

    [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnFZsrs32Co]YouTube - Grass Roots - Let's Live For Today[/url]
    They're the current custodians, sure... but they're just pawns on the same chess board you and I must exist on.

    The fact that they're self serving hypocrites without enough spine to say it to our face takes second fiddle to the engineered collapse of the Greenback and subsequent tyranny begun roughly 100 years ago.

    Keep your powder dry, friend.

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    You guys should get married.

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    I agree with them, Lipp. Aren't too many of us out there that can honestly say that most of our day isn't filled with BS that I didn't choose. And its horribly frustrating.

    Regarding change, if most people actually contacted their leaders to complain it would be a sight to behold. I play the game, tho I shouldn't have to. Our 'leaders' are supposed to work FOR us, but tell this to the 20-something gatekeepers and bureaucrats living with the daily CYA to feed their families. I don't even bother with them, and have to bypass the whole mechanism that should actually work for us with dinners, cheques, invitations and networking that is much an investment of my time as my stock maturing years from now. The whole system is sick and its just what CAM said: its giants smashing blindly through a china shop. I would be less terrified if I actually thought it was by design, but its not. You young ones should be terrified also, and its distressing to me you aren't.

    We need leadership to tame the chaos. But, who will balk the system? There are a thoughtful few who are willing to risk losing their comforts but not enough to make critical mass and oust the blood suckers. But its more than that: there are also many who have bought into the system who are very ready to punish those who would work for change. Real change, not Obama-spew change, BTW. But they are trapped in their own dung heap and cycle of apathy and what it says about them: lack of courage, guilt, apathy, greed or worse... the list goes on.

    If anyone here comes up with a viable solution to this, do let me know. For now, I'm with CAM, tho I do think about this a lot and worry for my kids and all of you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndiReloaded View Post
    I agree with them, Lipp. Aren't too many of us out there that can honestly say that most of our day isn't filled with BS that I didn't choose. And its horribly frustrating.

    Regarding change, if most people actually contacted their leaders to complain it would be a sight to behold. I play the game, tho I shouldn't have to. Our 'leaders' are supposed to work FOR us, but tell this to the 20-something gatekeepers and bureaucrats living with the daily CYA to feed their families. I don't even bother with them, and have to bypass the whole mechanism that should actually work for us with dinners, cheques, invitations and networking that is much an investment of my time as my stock maturing years from now. The whole system is sick and its just what CAM said: its giants smashing blindly through a china shop. I would be less terrified if I actually thought it was by design, but its not. You young ones should be terrified also, and its distressing to me you aren't.

    We need leadership to tame the chaos. But, who will balk the system? There are a thoughtful few who are willing to risk losing their comforts but not enough to make critical mass and oust the blood suckers. But its more than that: there are also many who have bought into the system who are very ready to punish those who would work for change. Real change, not Obama-spew change, BTW. But they are trapped in their own dung heap and cycle of apathy and what it says about them: lack of courage, guilt, apathy, greed or worse... the list goes on.

    If anyone here comes up with a viable solution to this, do let me know. For now, I'm with CAM, tho I do think about this a lot and worry for my kids and all of you.
    They've packed the stock yard and sent in the Blue Heelers... you can smell something, sense something impending...can you not, Indi?

    Something most would find unfathomable...

    It's all part of cycle which revisits humanity time and time again.

    I hope to remain free of those confines for the sake of my line.

    I will not and cannot be any more specific than that. Read between those lines.

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    Hey, I know who's breeding the dogs, Doc. Not sure if that's a pro or con, tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndiReloaded View Post
    I agree with them, Lipp. Aren't too many of us out there that can honestly say that most of our day isn't filled with BS that I didn't choose. And its horribly frustrating.

    Regarding change, if most people actually contacted their leaders to complain it would be a sight to behold. I play the game, tho I shouldn't have to. Our 'leaders' are supposed to work FOR us, but tell this to the 20-something gatekeepers and bureaucrats living with the daily CYA to feed their families. I don't even bother with them, and have to bypass the whole mechanism that should actually work for us with dinners, cheques, invitations and networking that is much an investment of my time as my stock maturing years from now. The whole system is sick and its just what CAM said: its giants smashing blindly through a china shop. I would be less terrified if I actually thought it was by design, but its not. You young ones should be terrified also, and its distressing to me you aren't.

    We need leadership to tame the chaos. But, who will balk the system? There are a thoughtful few who are willing to risk losing their comforts but not enough to make critical mass and oust the blood suckers. But its more than that: there are also many who have bought into the system who are very ready to punish those who would work for change. Real change, not Obama-spew change, BTW. But they are trapped in their own dung heap and cycle of apathy and what it says about them: lack of courage, guilt, apathy, greed or worse... the list goes on.

    If anyone here comes up with a viable solution to this, do let me know. For now, I'm with CAM, tho I do think about this a lot and worry for my kids and all of you.

    Unfortunately, an uninformed and brutish society will choose leadership in the same casual and ignorant manner as it chooses most everything else.

    Frankly, I don't want their "leadership"--our current Dear Leader in the US (and the two or three knuckleheads before him) is an example of what happens when the majority of people vote. Frightening, huh?

    And, you are right--those who wish to make real change are often punished for deny society its "entitlements." Even threatening to reduce the rate of increase in their social welfare forms of heroin makes the dependent class very angry.

    The "system" will never heal itself--not at this point. It really is just a matter of making it comfortable while it dies. Clean sheets, a fluffed up pillow, a bed by the window looking out on a pretty scene. The warm hand of government stroking Society's arm while the lifeblood drains from its countenance. Like Reagan said, the most horrible thing one can ever hear is the phrase, "I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

    I'm looking for a perch. I just need a perch for an additional 8-10 yrs and then I buy a farm and do subsistence living. In reviewing history, it was the Romans who lived in the rural areas who survived the collapse.

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    Do as Germany and China have recently done... quietly reduce your greenback holdings and have your gold (or other precious metals) physically delivered back to you.

    Actions speak louder than words or headlines.

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