What do you do when...

[IndiReloaded]

That's rather cowardly and close minded. I don't expect anyone to agree with me, but at least, possibly hear me out. I do the same for Socialists and American Democrats.

Thanks for pointing it out. I didn't realize.

LOL. I agree. I have only used the ignore feature once in all my time here. Noone has ever bothered me enough otherwise, you should be flattered! It was b/c the poster had writer's diarrhea and his posts made the threads take 2X as long to scan.

Only posters like Coco, etc tend to use that feature, I find. I didn't think Girl was that sort.

[Doc Durian]

Its true Girl, you are just full of excuses... To me you sound jealous of your friend getting married, or her privileges, or whatever. Sour grapes.

Let her enjoy her wedding. If you can't do that with some class, then don't go. It is bad manners to refuse food at a formal event like an asian wedding. Personally, I think you should just eat the damned soup. The queen has eaten shark fin soup. I have. You'll live, and I guarantee the shark doesn't care at that point. You'll be able to brag at some point (and I'm sure you will) that you've eaten it.

If you are serious about the issue, make your stand on this important environmental issue in a different venue than your 'friend's' wedding. Like a concerned post here on LF (which I've never seen--its always in the context of some 'friend' you have issues with). Or send a gift ahead with your regrets and well-wishes.

She reminds me of my first college (high school) sweetheart. She swore up and down that if they led a prayer during the graduation ceremony, she'd walk out mid point and cause a stir.

They took that onboard and proposed a moment of silence to thank whatever creed, belief, deity the graduating class and their families subscribed to.

So she walked out anyway.

It wasn't about the seperation of church and state... it had nothing to do with reality... she just wanted to walk out.

Last I knew, she had reversed her entire position on just about everything she so vehemently observed during the school years.

A happy housewife who admitted that most of her bookcase literature in high school was ornamental and unread.

[IndiReloaded]

Yea, this sort:

[url=http://www.cbc.ca/video/player.html?category=News&clipid=1395282690]CBC.ca Video Breakout Player[/url]

While I'm not terribly sympathetic to many politicians, I do think the stupid PETA folk choose venues that actually backfire on them.

But, what was great was the almost immediate response:

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L880zkvT9Yc&feature=related]YouTube - PETA protester gets OWNED by a pie![/url]

[Aeradalia]

It took ninety-two posts to come to the realization that you can do one of two things:

1. Dissolve the friendship based on incompatibility
2. Suck it up and live through the wedding with as little drama as possible.

It's not about the sharks -- it never was. It's about you not getting your way with a friend of yours.

Ignore me if you like, but the truth remains.

[Doc Durian]

Yea, this sort:

[url=http://www.cbc.ca/video/player.html?category=News&clipid=1395282690]CBC.ca Video Breakout Player[/url]

While I'm not terribly sympathetic to many politicians, I do think the stupid PETA folk choose venues that actually backfire on them.

But, what was great was the almost immediate response:

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L880zkvT9Yc&feature=related]YouTube - PETA protester gets OWNED by a pie![/url]

How is that?

An organization which prides itself on throwing red paint on peoples pricey property has somone (proponent) all busted up about copping a cream pie to the face.

A double standard exposed. lol

[IndiReloaded]

Well, the east coast of Canada is rather intolerant of groups like PETA. Not as 'liberal minded' as some other parts of Canada, which I happen to like. I read it was a local radio station that decided to go after the protesters after they pied Ms. Shea. Tit for tat, and free speech goes both ways, I suppose.

[Doc Durian]

I can respect equality on the battlefield, Indi... despite my beliefs and old school homespun wisdoms handed down to me from prior generations.

I know it's not fashionable, and I know I'm not 100 percent representational... but that's time and environment talking.

Like you said...tit for tat.

Assaulting a group with a pie to the face is the ultimate disrespect and deserved to be revisited back.

Good for them.

If Girl68 attended my future wedding and chucked a tizzy about the cuisine choices, I like the repercussion bear in that video, would have no problems whatsoever in filling her SE Asian bubble car full of unsellable shark cartilage and luring a wild dog pack around the perimeter.

An eye for an eye... they say

[girl68]

you can do one of two things:

1. Dissolve the friendship based on incompatibility
2. Suck it up and live through the wedding with as little drama as possible.

I actually plan to do both. She will remain a 'friend' of the group as for her and I, I've pushed her so far from my heart that I really don't give a shit. I'm not going to do anything AT her wedding. I simply wanted her to consider the oppostion to shark fin she refuses. I was never going to DO something at her wedding. All I was ever going to do was simply refuse to eat it. And if it is served to me, and someone asks to eat my share, I will say no.

It *is* about sharks but there are so many other things that piss me off about her. I don't trust her to keep her mouth shut, she told me I couldn't trust her. She thinks I'm a bitch because I don't make 80k a year and can't afford to go out and spend 50 a night on a dinner, nor can I go clubbing 3 times a week, nor can I afford a 35$ breakfast at some ritzy high end tea house. And I'm the bitch because I say sorry I can't go I'm broke. I'm the bitch... Oh yeah there's one more. She wants her stag in vegas at 1800 a person I said I'm sorry I can't because I can't afford it. My guy makes 150k and year and all I ever hear is ask him, just get him to pay blah blah blah. Well for 1 he's not my surgar daddy I do as much as I can to support and float myself, he helps when needed and he's always willing but I'm not a golddigging little shit who *wants* to ask. I HATE asking, but still have to at times. He pays a lot already, often gives me small amounts to grab a coffee before work once a week. He already helps me a lot and for them to tell me to leech of him is just mean. And she says I'm a selfish bitch and she'd "do it for me". Yes, I'm the bitch... There I said it, all of it. Yeah there was always more. But don't tell me it isn't about sharks it IS but I'm mad at her for that as well as all this. Oh and she never told me any of this... I heard if from her friend.

Don't worry like some of you said why don't you cut contact? Well I can't cut it all- but I have taken steps back, very, very far back.

[Doc Durian]

Somebody should waste you.

[starbuck]

Ok here's my two cents: Your friend is obviously ridiculous. The expectations for you to pay extravagant amounts and eat food you don't want to eat? These are all HER problems, not yours. You could calmly state your opinions and let her be the angry one. Or you could get upset and outraged.

Some people will never be rational even when presented with rational arguments. If you want to keep friends with her you'll need to allow her to have her points of view, however irrational or distasteful you think they are. Tolerating her opinions or at least her right to them, does not mean that you've given in and condoned shark finning. It just means that you no longer choose to get angry about the fact that someone won't see things the way you see them.

[dewilliams2]

What the **** does it have to do with being Green. Not hunting sharks is not going to do magic for the world's CO2 levels, its about basic human principles and ethics. Saying "there are other ways of being green" is about as sensible a response as saying "but I'm nice to my other friends" when you punch an acquaintance in the face.

Actually a stable ecosystem in the ocean is very important because more CO2 is absorbed and converted to oxygen by ocean life than by all the trees in the world...its a major problem with the ocean becoming warmer because a few more degrees warmer and the environment changes to the point that many fish die along with the plant life which will invariably lead to not only an issue with food shortages around the world but also an exponentially increasing global warming problem.

Taking a major predator out of the ecosystem means that there could be an increase in fish that would eat the plant life that would generally be converting the CO2.

Thats why I generally support the use of fish farms...they can breed and grow them in captivity which will really help the overfishing problems we are having around the world.

Its all terribly interrelated.

[girl68]

Ok here's my two cents: Your friend is obviously ridiculous. The expectations for you to pay extravagant amounts and eat food you don't want to eat? These are all HER problems, not yours. You could calmly state your opinions and let her be the angry one. Or you could get upset and outraged.

Some people will never be rational even when presented with rational arguments. If you want to keep friends with her you'll need to allow her to have her points of view, however irrational or distasteful you think they are. Tolerating her opinions or at least her right to them, does not mean that you've given in and condoned shark finning. It just means that you no longer choose to get angry about the fact that someone won't see things the way you see them.

Out of 90 something posts this is by far the best one.

[Sonrisa]

Ok here's my two cents: Your friend is obviously ridiculous. The expectations for you to pay extravagant amounts and eat food you don't want to eat? These are all HER problems, not yours. You could calmly state your opinions and let her be the angry one. Or you could get upset and outraged.

Some people will never be rational even when presented with rational arguments. If you want to keep friends with her you'll need to allow her to have her points of view, however irrational or distasteful you think they are. Tolerating her opinions or at least her right to them, does not mean that you've given in and condoned shark finning. It just means that you no longer choose to get angry about the fact that someone won't see things the way you see them.

i actually don't believe most things that girl states, it seems that she either exaggerates or makes shit up to get everyone on her side. Indi is completely right about one thing. Her beef is with the financial status of her friend.

[starbuck]

I can relate to girl and her friend issues. I have some great girlfriends. Then I have others who make me wonder what planet they're from.

[Cbrider]

I just started laughing when you said she thinks Chinese people are better than everyone else. Tell your friend to shut up or go back to her Shanghai shanty and live under communist rule.

View points aside, shark isn't all that great anyway. Its grayish when cooked and has a strange consistency and lemon taste.