Feminist Bullcrap

[doppelgaenger]

Physical qualities are hard evidence that men and women operate differently and are supposed to perform different social functions and stuff.

[Mish]

Physical qualities are hard evidence that men and women operate differently and are supposed to perform different social functions and stuff.

Even so, you don't believe that both sexes should be treated equally?

[doppelgaenger]

I'm not sure if I want to waste my time picking apart what you mean by what it means to be treated 'equally'.

But no, not necessarily. I think the notions of feminism once held valid beliefs and values during the Women's Rights movement, but in the context of today, in the Western world, particularly in the USA, where women have the ability to exercise 'equal rights', these values and beliefs are misinterpreted and overidealized. Women here are typically highly respected by men; verbally, and through chivalrous favors like holding doors open and changing flat tires and saving their little rat-sized dogs who try to eat fishing lures with all kinds of hooks on them. I'll be damned if a guy ever hits a woman in public here and not see another guy step in and defend her.

All this revolutionary feminazi behavior is quite offensive, actually. They are exercising their new freedoms of speech with their blasphemy backed up by the preconceived notions of oppression. Those women don't want to be 'equal' or have the same rights; they want to be dominant and think that they are better than men. That would explain how they justify all these double standards they've got about accommodating their demands. It certainly explains the plethora of metrosexuals and gays floating around these days, and guys going on paternal leave with their babybackpacks and the gradual transition of the male replacing the female role in our society.

The only time I support feminism is in the context of third world countries that point out true injustices to women in places where women really are treated like possessions and animals, where women don't have any rights or independence.

I can't believe there are women floating around out there who think that it is okay to keep their maiden name, or men who would accept that. What a real slap in the face that is, when a guy decides to make a commitment to a girl, legal and marital. Why should we celebrate matrimony and have ceremonies then? Why don't we forget everything that is 'old-fashioned' and 'traditional' and not just the traditions that women feel oppressed by? Why should a guy have to buy a diamond ring or even a wedding band? Why get married at all, if you're not willing to solidify your family with the unification under the man's name? Why would you create a confusing atmosphere for your children to grow up in by challenging the patriarchal naming system our society has held through thick and thin, simply for your personal gratification as a female in a world where you feel that females are oppressed?

Personally, I'm content with the way society treats women. They can go to school, get a higher degree, and get any job they want. Look at Hillary Clinton for chrissakes. Sometimes they don't get paid the salary they earned, and of course there is affirmative action giving jobs to people simply to create 'equality', but everyone is discriminated against for all kinds of reasons. I don't expect women to be housewives or stay at home with the kids and furthermore I feel that women are treated as better than 'equal'. I've always lived by the golden rule, and I've always been more polite and respectful to women than men.

[Petit Papillon]

About feminism... Two weeks ago ,on my spanish course, we were talking with classmates about Equality between Women and Men ... The funniest thing I've heard was from an African, I think he's from Senegal. "If woman knows too much it can cause just trouble" lol

Lol, actually having this course with real immigrants ,from a total different part of the world than me, I realize how much our lives and thinking differs from each other. And the worse is, some of those guys, they still think it's better if woman stays all her life at home, without education and is used just as a babies machine ... It's sad, but I understand why it's so hard for them to adapt to our reality and culture.They're at least 100 years behind us, or even more

[the_robot]

It's sad, but I understand why it's so hard for them to adapt to our reality and culture.They're at least 100 years behind us, or even more

There's a lot of guys who are like that without being of another culture, that's a lot worse.

I know of cases with men locking (yes, locking) their wife in their room and only letting them go out to cook, clean, etc. Add beatings to that, and you have one of those great men that I think should be tortured to death.

[Charlie Boy II]

"If woman knows too much it can cause just trouble" lol

Lmao.........

[doppelgaenger]

^^ I had a class like that when I was in Germany.

[Petit Papillon]

There's a lot of guys who are like that without being of another culture, that's a lot worse.

I know of cases with men locking (yes, locking) their wife in their room and only letting them go out to cook, clean, etc. Add beatings to that, and you have one of those great men that I think should be tortured to death.

But it doesn't happen very often, on the contrary , in my spanish course at this day, there were 3 guys from Senegal and one from Morocco . 3 our 4 said, it was better before when women had no rights and were staying all their life at home with kids. Just one guy from Senegal, said he thinks it's better if woman has some education. Where here in Europe, guys wouldn't even think like this ,because it's something normal that girls go to school with boys, it's normal cycle of life. Of course there are guys who force their woman to stay at home, but those women are stupid for letting themself get trapped with assholes like this. Normally, all girls are provided with the same chance of education here. If they marry a jerk , well, shit happens, but at least they could have lear how to write and read?? This is what it's about. For those African guys, they don't want women to even learn how to read!! this is ridiculous .

[doppelgaenger]

I think it's kind of unfair to say that African guys don't want their women to learn how to read. The African refugees and exchange students I've met don't think that way.

[Petit Papillon]

I think it's kind of unfair to say that African guys don't want their women to learn how to read. The African refugees and exchange students I've met don't think that way.

I say what I've heard from themselves . They were asked straight those questions and they answered straight. They said we don't want to adapt to your culture because anyway someday we will come back to Africa.
Of course not all Africans are like that, I have guys at work and even they don't think this way, love seeing more and meeting new cultures - but those guys have families abroad and used to travel since a very long time.They also come from wealthy families,they don't really come from those poor ,very poor places,they are educated,speak proper english,etc. Guys from my course arrived here year or two ago, with those dreams that in Europe they can have everything or just secure life. Those guys come from countries,from poor families, where people die for a joke diseases ,just because there is no doctor in the village. I'm saying what they were saying,wouldn't you be irritated to hear something like this?Let's not fool each other,most African countries are very poor,people are uneducated or not educated at all. It's not about their skin color , it's the way it is and we can't help them unless they want help.

[lastwish]

The type of feminism I believe in have nothing to do with matters of the last name. I think that is nitpicking.

[vashti]

I can't believe there are women floating around out there who think that it is okay to keep their maiden name, or men who would accept that. What a real slap in the face that is, when a guy decides to make a commitment to a girl, legal and marital. Why should we celebrate matrimony and have ceremonies then? Why don't we forget everything that is 'old-fashioned' and 'traditional' and not just the traditions that women feel oppressed by? Why should a guy have to buy a diamond ring or even a wedding band? Why get married at all, if you're not willing to solidify your family with the unification under the man's name? Why would you create a confusing atmosphere for your children to grow up in by challenging the patriarchal naming system our society has held through thick and thin, simply for your personal gratification as a female in a world where you feel that females are oppressed?

Ahahahahahahahahah!

Poor CityCat.

[Gigabitch]

Wait until they start on you about childbirth methods and circumcision. Bitches think it's their business.

[IndiReloaded]

My current last name means nothing to me, and like Indi said, changing it makes for a more cohesive family unit when we have kids.

I just want to clarify why I said I wouldn't have changed my name if I didn't plan on having kids: academics publish papers and name recognition is important. People do author searches based on last name. It gets confusing when women have things published under both their maiden name and their married name. Hyphenation was an option, but some names just sound stupid together. I've also think most of the hyphenated names I've seen sound very pretentious.

[lovesjoyajm]

I just want to clarify why I said I wouldn't have changed my name if I didn't plan on having kids: academics publish papers and name recognition is important. People do author searches based on last name. It gets confusing when women have things published under both their maiden name and their married name. Hyphenation was an option, but some names just sound stupid together. I've also think most of the hyphenated names I've seen sound very pretentious.

I'm on the fence about changing my name if I get married, but I think in that situation I would just continue to use my maiden name professionally/academically.

My best friend wants not only to hyphenate her last name, but for her man to hyphenate his, too. Her last name starts with "Ch" and his ends with "cht", so she says her name has to go first so they don't have a "cht-Ch" in the middle of their name.