Best friend told the girl of my dreams that I liked her. Nothing happened!

[Smithx]

Well, its been 5 days since she's been walking around in my school, going to classes (With me in two of them). And I still havn't yet said anything.. She no longer says 'hi' to me in the halls anymore.. She did say 'hi brandon' twice however when we were the only two in the hallway without a bunch of people walking by.

Since this has been on my mind forever.. I have noticed a thing or two: It isn't her that I am expecting an answer from. It isn't the time she needs to think about what the realization of the truth is. Because it's been 5 days, and if anything happened between her knowing who I was and those letters, I've not only been afraid to talk to her, but afraid of her now.

Afriad to talk to her, and since I don't talk to her... I hate myself in return for that. What is the result of hating myself? Putting myself into a depression every minute of everyday. Meanwhile, she's "thinking" about something (Who knows what), and if she's looking at me, then going back to what was said in those letters.. She see's a broken, sad, depressed individual, why would she like that in a person?

I am so terrified of her.. Just because I cannot stand the fact when she see's me.. It isn't in the same way as it always was. Now when I see her, I see the eyes of the person I wish to beable to be great friends with, but the sting I get from her eyes that say "She knows you are you, you can't hide that anymore" is just so painful.

In the past 2-3 years, I have really only had 3-4 friends (Real friends, that come over and do that kinda stuff). I never talked much in high-school (not by my choice, I'd have much rather made a stand for myself instead of being quiet all of the time, so no one could judge me on what kind of person I am).

I still was very anti-social, I still was alone. Putting that into consideration for this situation.. KT cannot compare me with any past experiences, or base the kind of person I am by just letters. I have no personality, and that's what she would be looking for when considering wether I am "Worth the time, and effort".. I wish I was more of a person to have something for her to actually 'like'. Which throws me into this dillemma.. Knowing what I know now.. Knowing what I am missing.. I cannot fill these gaps that haunt the inside of me, so KT cannot judge me if there is nothing to judge.



Everything is hitting me so hard.. Knowing what I needed to fix in the past to make things right now.. It's just too hard... and my so called 'dream' will never become a reality. The only way it would become a reality is by out of sympathy for a 'nice' person like myself - I guess I could say that with the letter(or whatever) to go without an answer to those letters, so she'd just base it off that, or out of friendship to Xavier--Cuz she's friends with him, and I'm his friend... therefore.. meh. I continue to come back to that, because since I barley talk to any human beings on this earth.. Taking to anyone is something I treasure, wether it be a friend, a girl (Which is one and a million), and the girl I really like.. which is beyond any figures... So as soon as I am confronted, I always wish I had more to say in a conversation to carry on the discussion longer.. but I cannot do that.. and I have no humor, or a character to base myself on.. why would she even consider me? It hurts... Yet.. I do nothing to ease the pain..

I need to do something, I want to tell her. I have been feeling really bad the last few days (With her next to me last period).. and every second that passes in which she nore I say anything.. it hurts more and more.. but since this weekend.. I haven't felt much pain.. I hope I do something before there is no pain....!!

[kaotic02]

Everyone has given you good advice, and you have still not taken any of it and done something. Grow some balls man, noone is going to help you if you dont help yourself. What did I say earlier, its just gonna get harder and harder the longer you go on without finding out what the deal is. Stop being a pussy, you had numerous oppurtunities to talk to her and you still havn't done so. Don't post a reply on here again unless you've talked to her. Noone wants to hear about how hard it is, or how you've been feeling.

[Smithx]

Hey **** you man. I have never been in love before, and im sure you have so I don't want to ****in hear from YOU again unless you have some advice.. I come online to open myself up to you people, and all you do is downplay everything..

Now, as I said before.. I have been holding this back for 3 years. I have lived alone on my own floor in this house I live in for over 5-6 years. I live with no-contact with the outside world. People don't make fun of me at school, and I'm somehow popular with people just because they cannot judge me. Why can't they judge me? I have been to over 5 schools in this neighboorhood, so no one really knows me for me. I sit alone in class everyday to talk to one of the 5 friends I have (one of which, Xavier is next to best friends with Katie). I am going to tell Xavier that I don't think, even after three years, i can just 'go up to her' and talk to her.. You don't understand, after 3 years thus far in school, I still only see one person who I would REMOTLY consider, and that would be Katie... Damnit, if I loose this, I loose my chance for the rest of my high-school period. I told Xavier that I wanted to talk to her in private, and he just all of a sudden goes "I will tell her, that you have been a mess, and have been yearning to talk to her about those letters, but you havn't said anything, so I am going to help you and ask her if it would be okay if she talked to you about this".. then he hung up the phone.. now tomarrow (Monday) is school, and I was wondering.. Should I tell him to stop? Because if I find him and ask him, he won't say anything.. Will this just be another thing that I will regret? Or is this the work of a good friend trying to help me out?

[Only-virgins]

SmithX: First of all...there is no such thing as a person with no personality. I read your posts and I can tell you have a personality already. What did you write her in your letters that makes you so afraid of the way she sees you now? Do you tell her your feelings in the letter or is the letter depressing?. If she now knows that you want to confront her then maybe she is just waiting?. I am trying to place my-self in the situation and its hard. I know conversations can be hard to come up with but if you just tell her that you have feelings for her then things could roll smoothly. Do not tell your friend to stop tomorrow...just let him says what he will.

noone is going to help you if you dont help yourself.

I really....REALLY...hate this saying. It is so much easier to give advice then to be in the situation at hand. He only has one thread and really doesnt ask much except for people to listen to him. Just shut the fawk up with this "We dont want to hear this" bullshit ...did you forget what forums you are on?

PS: You must have missed my thread lol...it was like 15 pages of something similar to this lol.

[Ratfish256]

Smith I really think what he was trying to say is that unless you actually go up to her nothing is going to get better. I know its easy for me to say it and hard for you to hear, but really do yourself a favor and ask her out. I really doubt you would have that much trouble getting a date either. The worst thing that could happen is she says no. But imagine if she says yes? She is probably just as worried as you are. "When is he going to ask me out" "I dont want to scare him by asking him out" "I wish I knew what to say to him now" Honestly I wouldnt be surprised if the reason she hasnt talked to you much is because she has no idea what to say and not in the bad way. Good luck man, we are all pulling for you.

[kaotic02]

you sound like a baby to me. oh boohoo try to understand me, im a loser blah blah. everyone has said the same thing over and over again to just talk to her. GROW BALLS MAN, DO SOMETHING ONCE IN YOUR LIFE THAT YOU HAVNT DONE. stop ****in thinkin about how sad your life is, and try doing something spontaneous. BOTTOM LINE, IF YOU ARENT GOING TO FIX IT THEN DONT COME IN HERE BITCHING ABOUT IT. You're friend is doing something you should be doing, but you are too scared to do.

As for ONLY-VIRGINS
We have told him what to do, and hes still coming in here crying. If he doesnt want to take the advice everyone has given him and give excuses then he needs to shutup and stop posting. is he lookin for some kind of therapy session where he can tell somone his life story. because thats not what this forumn is for. You're a nerd. I seen your posts on here, truely a nerd. Heh, you are the last person in the world i'd take any advice from. I wouldn't even ask you how to whipe my ass properly

[wwefan300]

We have told him what to do, and hes still coming in here crying. If he doesnt want to take the advice everyone has given him and give excuses then he needs to shutup and stop posting.

This is the truth right here. No offense but Smithx i use to have your problem it only happened to me in 1st block of my high school(im a freshman). Let me tell you once you keep talking to people and HAVE FUN with it your not going to have problems. Hell i still get depressed but what you gotta do is write poetry do something instead of crying. Thing is YOU TALK to her either in the classroom or on the phone or EVEN AIM if she has that if your scared to talk to her in class. Think of it like this if your on the phone with her SHE IS NOT THERE shes far away.

Now i hope you do the right thing and get back with her.

[Only-virgins]

you sound like a baby to me. oh boohoo try to understand me, im a loser blah blah. everyone has said the same thing over and over again to just talk to her. GROW BALLS MAN, DO SOMETHING ONCE IN YOUR LIFE THAT YOU HAVNT DONE. stop ****in thinkin about how sad your life is, and try doing something spontaneous. BOTTOM LINE, IF YOU ARENT GOING TO FIX IT THEN DONT COME IN HERE BITCHING ABOUT IT. You're friend is doing something you should be doing, but you are too scared to do.

As for ONLY-VIRGINS
We have told him what to do, and hes still coming in here crying. If he doesnt want to take the advice everyone has given him and give excuses then he needs to shutup and stop posting. is he lookin for some kind of therapy session where he can tell somone his life story. because thats not what this forumn is for. You're a nerd. I seen your posts on here, truely a nerd. Heh, you are the last person in the world i'd take any advice from. I wouldn't even ask you how to whipe my ass properly

I am a nerd and you are a dumba$$ and the world continues on. What the hell is a nerd anyways?. I prefer not to speak to people who are of lower intelligence then me but for you I will make an exception. He said he has a hard ..let me repeat that for you "HARD!!(ECHO)" time talking to her so telling him to just talk to her is like telling a broken car to start and move. The best way advice is formed is through listening to what the person has to say. I am sure you know how he feels though so your advice is the best right?. I am going to tell you right now that every person on here who comes and asks about what they should do in a situation such as this all-ready knows the advice of "Just talk to her".

You don't know how to whipe your ass properly? . Let me guess...you think I am a nerd because I am a virgin or because my signature has glasses in it? lol. You are the weak link of human kind and I am ashamed to be the same species as you.

[Prodigal]

What I got from this is that you want her to like you, but not from those letters or your friend or anything. You want her to like you for you, which seems both logical and in line with common sense. You also say that these letters and your friend can't give you a personality, so you have no personality to her. Instead you're just the letters to her.

It isn't going to be solved in some easy sweep, if that is what you want. There are a couple solutions to this problem. The first is to start talking to her on a regular basis, ignoring the letters. Get to know each other more personally before trying to take it to the next level. Maybe in this stage you even realize that it wasn't really what you thought it was, then you just stay friends. The second solution is to talk to her, ask her out (what most people have been saying). Sure, maybe she'll go out with you first because of what you said, because you're a nice person etc. But don't look at it that way; look at it as a chance to make it into something real. Even if she does go out with you for that reason, it gives you a huge chance to be you. Let it come out and shine.

In any case, you do have to take the action yourself. No matter how hard it hurts, you gotta remember the pain that you're causing yourself over this. Either way, you'll end the big trauma going on in your head right now.

I've learned something very important from high school (I'm a graduating senior), because I used to be just like you. I had liked several girls, and never asked them out, and it was for basically the same reason you're not asking this Katie right now. It was low self-esteem and hesitation in asking, and that is due to second guessing and overanalyzation. It made me learn that if you really want something, most of the time you have to go out there and get it yourself. The outcome is possibly very great, right? Well, any possible great outcome has a risk attached to it. The stock market and gambling, for example. If there wasn't a risk, then everyone would be rich! You're not doing this because you're aware of the risk involved. Instead of thinking about this, think about the possible benefit that could come out of this. There is that saying, "If there's a will, there's a way". You have the will, we have supplied the ways. We can only supply the peanut butter and jelly on the bread. It's your turn to put the two sides together.

[kaotic02]

You are the weak link of human kind and I am ashamed to be the same species as you.

LOL! typical nerd response.

[Smithx]

Kaotic-- I expect you don't make a nice boyfriend.. Considering the fact that you continue to come online and criticize everyone..

BOTTOM LINE, IF YOU ARENT GOING TO FIX IT THEN DONT COME IN HERE BITCHING ABOUT IT.

Isn't that what everyone does on here? Everyone does know that just saying "You need to talk to her" isn't enough. I came her for positive reinforcement. And point out the obvious. As for Prodigal AND Virgin's comments, I really thank you.

Tomorrow.. Me, Xavier, Katie, and Andy are going to Katie’s house to watch 'Gremlins'.. Xavier set this up to give me the perfect opportunity to talk to her away from all of the things going on at school. I am going to do my best to explain myself to her in the very deepest level of truth that can come out of me. I feel as if, as soon as I START to talk to her.. i can say everything.. just starting it is what I have trouble with. Everyone’s (Well everyone except what's his name) comments have really took a hold of me and I will continue to remember those come tomorrow.

[indigosoul]

I am a nerd and you are a dumba$$ and the world continues on. What the hell is a nerd anyways?. I prefer not to speak to people who are of lower intelligence then me but for you I will make an exception. He said he has a hard ..let me repeat that for you "HARD!!(ECHO)" time talking to her so telling him to just talk to her is like telling a broken car to start and move. The best way advice is formed is through listening to what the person has to say.

I really hate when these posts degenerate into flame-sessions... mostly b/c I have to sift thru the sh!t to see if anyone has already posted the advice I'm about to give. Anyway, here goes, for BOTH of you:

Try IMAGINING how you would go up to your girl & talk w/her/ask her out. REHERSE this in your brain, MANY TIMES (bedtime is a good time). IMAGINE her positive response. Keep the thoughts positive, this is VERY important. Do this enough, and you will get the balls to actually try. This is not BS, BTW, this is how elite athletes and businessppl achieve success, by first VISUALIZING SUCCESS and then actually doing it. Hope this at least gives you some ideas... good luck.

[Only-virgins]

Tomorrow.. Me, Xavier, Katie, and Andy are going to Katie’s house to watch 'Gremlins'.. Xavier set this up to give me the perfect opportunity to talk to her away from all of the things going on at school. I am going to do my best to explain myself to her in the very deepest level of truth that can come out of me. I feel as if, as soon as I START to talk to her.. i can say everything.. just starting it is what I have trouble with. Everyone’s (Well everyone except what's his name) comments have really took a hold of me and I will continue to remember those come tomorrow.

Good luck.

BTW, this is how elite athletes and businessppl achieve success, by first VISUALIZING SUCCESS and then actually doing it. Hope this at least gives you some ideas... good luck.

Yea and if all fails then they jump out of windows lol.

[indigosoul]

Good luck.



Yea and if all fails then they jump out of windows lol.

Your pessimism is persistent but unimpressive. I am an optimist & I believe you are smarter than you are acting... it takes more than brains to get by in this world. It takes guts too.

"Come to the edge," He said. They said, "We are afraid." "Come to the edge," He said. They came. He pushed them...and they flew.--Guillaume Apollinaire

[Only-virgins]

"Come to the edge," He said. They said, "We are afraid." "Come to the edge," He said. They came. He pushed them...and they flew.--Guillaume Apollinaire

"Come to the edge," He said. They said, "We are afraid." "Come to the edge," He said. They came. He pushed them...and "SPLURT!" they are dead.