So she's not a virgin anymore...

[cbad]

Actually, all I'm doing is discussing the topic with you so that people know where you're coming from. That always helps when people give advice. So the advice you're giving is from the viewpoint that being a virgin is not a positive attribute, that porn stars are innocent, and that nobody lies about the number of sexual partners they've had. Now people can take your advice or not knowing that.

[searock]

So the advice you're giving is from the viewpoint that being a virgin is not a positive attribute

Absolutely, it isn't a positive attribute per se. I just told you (twice already) about that 40 year old virgin CREEP. The fact that he's a virgin doesn't make him a better person (actually, I think part of the reason he's such a creep is that he is a virgin!).

that porn stars are innocent,

I said that porn stars can be innocent. Having sex doesn't make a person any more or any less innocent.

that nobody lies about the number of sexual partners they've had.

Seriously dude, you need to stop doing that. I never said that NOBODY lies about their number of sexual partners. I said that MOST PEOPLE don't lie about it, and I said that the people who do are either insecure or sexist or both, and they for some obsure reason want to be with people who judge other people based on their number of sexual partners. This is what I said and that was you trying to put words in my mouth (yet again).

[pcmaster]

After all we are just bad, innocent virgin pornstars who never lie. Lets stop at this point.

[cbad]

(actually, I think part of the reason he's such a creep is that he is a virgin!)

Again, that is very helpful because it reveals how you think. Most people would say "he's a virgin because he's a creep." Instead, you think he's a creep because he's a virgin. Your posts are all intensely focused on downplaying virginity or even making it a negative and trying to promote acceptance of sexual promiscuity. So all your posts should be read in that context.

[somethinglol]

Hahahaha, you say this like I would WANT to be anything like a virgin XD! Being a virgin is NOT, per se, a positive attribute. Hell, I even provided you with a blatant counter-example (that 40 year old creep I wrote about earlier - creepiest guy alive, and a 100% virgin). I definitely don't want to be as "innocent" as he is XD!

So are you saying it's better to lose your virginity in the age of 12 than be a virgin in the age of 18?

Innocent means "not guilty". Having sex doesn't make you guilty of anything, having sex is not a negative or corrupting thing.

It's not a negative thing, but the beginning of a sex life takes a piece of innocence away. I'm not saying you should "aim" to be the most innocent person on earth, then it has more negative sides, and losing "innocence" is also part of life, not a bad thing.

[cbad]

What I get from his/her posts is that she's a very sexually liberal person who is offended by people who view sex in a special way and is OK with random hookups (meaning, "that doesn't make me a bad person, it makes you a bad person for judging me"). Why that is important is you should understand where his/her advice is coming from. searock could tell you "your feelings about this girl are just stupid." Well, great, but that's because she doesn't think you should care about this girl's innocence or her actions. So you need to know what her background is and whether her advice applies to you.

As an extreme example, if you asked a porn star about this, she'd be telling you about how you can have sex with someone (on the set) and it doesn't mean a thing. That's fine, but you have to understand that her background and opinions are totally different from yours from the get-go.

[cbad]

Just to clarify, in case that wasn't clear:

It would be like if you said that you saw this girl that you loved giving five guys oral sex in an alleyway. To you, that would devastate you emotionally. Someone like searock might say "as long as she wasn't being forced, what's the big deal? She's still the same person as she was yesterday." And to searock, that would be true. But to you, it would have absolutely no bearing or relevance to what you were feeling. That's why it is always important to know where people are coming from when they give you advice.

[searock]

Again, that is very helpful because it reveals how you think. Most people would say "he's a virgin because he's a creep. Instead, you think he's a creep because he's a virgin.

I think both things... it's circular: if he had had more experience when he was younger, he probably wouldn't be as much of a creep as he is now. However, being a creep, he still can't get laid. So yeah, the two things pretty much implicate each other.

Your posts are all intensely focused on downplaying virginity or even making it a negative

Nope, they aren't. I never said virginity was a negative thing, I just said it isn't a positive thing. Again, STOP PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH.

and trying to promote acceptance of sexual promiscuity.

There is nothing wrong with sexual promiscuity per se, so yeah, we should all be acceptant of it.

[HeartIsAching]

Face it searock - he's a sexist, and you're not.

Remember what they say about arguing with fools?

[searock]

It would be like if you said that you saw this girl that you loved giving five guys oral sex in an alleyway. To you, that would devastate you emotionally. Someone like searock might say "as long as she wasn't being forced, what's the big deal? She's still the same person as she was yesterday." And to searock, that would be true.

Lol, that would be true to everybody! A woman who is willing to give blowjobs to 5 different guys in an alley is the same woman than the woman who actually does it! What difference does it make whether she actually does it or not - she still is willing to do it, that's what matters.

If this woman came up to you and told you with sincerity: "I would like to give blowjobs to five guys in an alley", she would be no different from a woman who actually did give blowjobs to five guys in an alley. Same f*cking person.

But to you, it would have absolutely no bearing or relevance to what you were feeling.

D'uh.

That's why it is always important to know where people are coming from when they give you advice.

Completely uncorrelated to your above sentence.

[cbad]

It's rather interesting how you always deny saying what you said.

[searock]

Face it searock - he's a sexist, and you're not.

Remember what they say about arguing with fools?

Thanks god there are people with some brains! It's a relief, really :-). You're right. It's just that I hate that the 15 year old kid that opened this thread is actually listening to his bullcrap and thinking he's right. Oh well, he still has lots of years to figure it out.

[HeartIsAching]

It's rather interesting how you keep trying to make out that she's saying what she's not.

[searock]

Hahah, and he chose to say that after the one post in which I wasn't actually correcting any of his "words-in-my-mouth"... gee how stupid can one be?

[cbad]

It's rather interesting how you keep trying to make out that she's saying what she's not.

Actually, all I did was repeat what she said. The thread is available for everyone to read, assuming she doesn't go back and edit her posts.