So she's not a virgin anymore...

[searock]

Then go ahead and quote me, instead of putting words in my mouth.

[searock]

What I get from his/her posts is that she's a very sexually liberal person

I am a person who doesn't judge people who enjoy having sex.

who is offended by people who view sex in a special way

Nope, not offended by them. People are free to view sex in any way they like.

and is OK with random hookups (meaning, "that doesn't make me a bad person, it makes you a bad person for judging me").

Yes, of course. I mean, it doesn't make you a "bad" person, it just makes you a judgmental person that I wouldn't want to be associated with.

searock could tell you "your feelings about this girl are just stupid."

Feelings can be neither stupid nor intelligent, thoughts can. It's ok to feel sad because she had sex with another guy, it's not ok to rationalize such sadness with disappointment and disgust at her as a person.

she doesn't think you should care about this girl's innocence or her actions.

You are free to care about whatever you like, I'm just saying that having sex has nothing to do with how innocent a person is. Having sex is not a bad thing per se.

[searock]

So are you saying it's better to lose your virginity in the age of 12 than be a virgin in the age of 18?

No, at 12 years old pretty much nobody is mature enough to have a sexual life. I'd say the age in which one is mature enough goes from 16 upwards, depending on the person. 15 is a bit too young IMO, but it happens and most times it's no big deal.

It's not a negative thing, but the beginning of a sex life takes a piece of innocence away.

In the sense that it makes you more experienced, well, yes, it certainly does. It doesn't "corrupt" you though: only negative experiences "corrupt" you, and sex isn't a negative experience.

[somethinglol]

Hahah, and he chose to say that after the one post in which I wasn't actually correcting any of his "words-in-my-mouth"... gee how stupid can one be?

At least we're not calling anyone stupid.

[cbad]

Sure thing:

You said: "Hahahaha, you say this like I would WANT to be anything like a virgin XD! Being a virgin is NOT, per se, a positive attribute."

In response to my question ("So to you, for example, I presume a porn star could be totally innocent or a prostitute, as well."), you replied "A porn star, yes. A prostitute, it depends on whether they are doing it out of their own free will, or if they have been coerced into it."

And finally, you wrote: "I literally don't know about any woman who has lied to anyone about her number of sexual partners."

Enjoy!

[searock]

You said: "Hahahaha, you say this like I would WANT to be anything like a virgin XD! Being a virgin is NOT, per se, a positive attribute."

Exactly: I said it isn't a positive attribute. I didn't say it was a negative one.

In response to my question ("So to you, for example, I presume a porn star could be totally innocent or a prostitute, as well."), you replied "A porn star, yes. A prostitute, it depends on whether they are doing it out of their own free will, or if they have been coerced into it."

The question was: "I presume a porn star could be totally innocent?" and my answer was "Yes". Yes, a porn star can be totally innocent. This is what I said.

And finally, you wrote: "I literally don't know about any woman who has lied to anyone about her number of sexual partners."

I mean in real life, in my experience. I have read and heard about women who do that, I just don't know about any woman in my real life that has done so. Either way, I never said that nobody lies about their number of sexual partners. Even in real life, for example, I know about guys who lie about it.

[cbad]

That's nice, except if you don't want to be anything like a virgin, that's clearly viewing it as negative. You also later denied that you said a porn star was innocent. And now you're changing things to say that only MEN lie about their "sexual number." So it's not that I'm a chauvanist, it's that you hate men because you view women as great and are angry that men devalue women who are sexually promiscuous. That's also why you're trying to convince the OP that it's totally OK for this girl to be having sex and that it changes nothing.

[searock]

That's nice, except if you don't want to be anything like a virgin, that's clearly viewing it as negative.

No. I don't want to be 15, it doesn't mean I view being 15 as something negative. Get it?

You also later denied that you said a porn star was innocent.

Because I didn't. I said that a porn star can be innocent.

And now you're changing things to say that only MEN lie about their "sexual number."

No. I said that some people lie about sexual numbers. Some of them are guys, some of them are girls. In my experience, I've only met guys. I know that my experience is limited, so I don't say that ONLY MEN or ONLY WOMEN or ALL MEN or ALL WOMEN or EVERYONE or NOBODY lies about their sexual number. I just say that most people don't lie about it, and that the ones who do are either insecure or sexist or both, and for some obscure reason they want to be with people that judge other people based on their sexual number.

you hate men because you view women as great and are angry that men devalue women who are sexually promiscuous.

I don't hate men in general. Having sex doesn't equal to being "sexually promiscuous". Most men don't devalue women who enjoy having sex.

That's also why you're trying to convince the OP that it's totally OK for this girl to be having sex and that it changes nothing.

No. I'm trying to have him realize that it's totally ok for any girl to be having sex and that it changes nothing about what kind of person she is because it's the truth.

[HeartIsAching]

Actually, I have been reading and watching all along, and you keep trying to twist her words to mean things she hasn't said. You've got a very black and white view of the world, and you like to speak in absolutes... and you appear to take things other people say in terms of absolutes. A very juvenile world-view IMNSHO.

[cbad]

Actually, all that's happened is you two post about the chauvanism of men and intermittently like each others' posts.

[searock]

Oooh, nice way out cbad.

[HeartIsAching]

Actually, your reading comprehension leaves something to be desired. Trying to decide if you're a troll, or really just that stupid.

[searock]

Me too, was wondering the same thing XD.

[somethinglol]

Actually, your reading comprehension leaves something to be desired. Trying to decide if you're a troll, or really just that stupid.

Calling people stupid shows immaturity.

[HeartIsAching]

Apparently your reading comprehension needs work as well.