21th century is asian century.. do you think so?

[Lipp]

This thing is still going on? Geez.

[doppelgaenger]

I'll stab you with Occam's Razor.

[Mish]

As for ancient inventions, past is past. Progress doesn't happen by sitting on laurels. Like I said earlier, one could say African influence is the major cultural contribution b/c it was there that man discovered fire.

That's exactly it Indi. Past IS past. This includes modern history as well. It's in the past. If you are going to say that all ancient inventions are null because they are history and it's all now about progress then so are the modern ones since they are history as well. In which case there are no most influential cultures to date.

Advancement requires LEISURE. And, which culture(s) have done the most for this in the history of mankind? Western culture.

There are clearly no facts and no proof to support a statement like that. You can scream as loud as you can that the sky is orange, but in the end it's not going to make it so. A lot of progress in history of mankind was made long before a thing as a western (European) culture as we know it today even existed. If you take a history of mankind as one day, European culture as we know it today will only be a couple of minutes in those twenty four hours. How can those couple of minutes be as gigantic of footprint in the history of mankind as you claim it to be? The answer is simple it can't and it's not. It's just another transient page in a book which is our history.



P.S. I think this thread should be put to rest

[IndiReloaded]

Oh Mish, your argument about time means nothing. You would argue its linear and equi-meaningful. Its not. In biology, there are critical events, "spikes", that effect the evolution of entire species. Explosions that occur simply b/c certain conditions are met that allow for rapid changes to occur that couldn't before.

Ideas and innovations are the same.

As for the rest, I agree we can leave it for now.

[Mish]

Oh Mish, your argument about time means nothing. In biology, there are critical events, "spikes", that effect the evolution of entire species. Explosions that occur simply b/c certain conditions are met that allow for rapid changes to occur that couldn't before.

Ideas and innovations are the same.

If they are the same then you will see these spikes occurring all the way through out the time line of the species (especially in the early and mid section) and not conveniently dotted around one particular specimen at one convenient section of time.

Don't forget, it's exactly the time which you claim means nothing is what drives the evolution.