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    Quote Originally Posted by ecojeanne View Post
    'helping' is the nice name America uses for exploiting....why does there have to be a catch?
    Because I don't feel like spending my tax dollars on every country that needs it if America gets nothing from it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ecojeanne View Post
    fact is America exploits other countries.....get it?.....anyway this point was in response to people claiming 'America helps'....what more do you want me to say.....a claim was made and i proved it wrong....over and out.
    The only thing that you've proven is that you're a conspiracy theorist wack job that is completely anti-America.

    I am proud of my country. In fact, if I were to ever become the President, I think you should be a little more fearful because these little Anti-American countries would soon be a part of the country they hate so much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cain View Post
    The only thing that you've proven is that you're a conspiracy theorist wack job that is completely anti-America.

    I am proud of my country. In fact, if I were to ever become the President, I think you should be a little more fearful because these little Anti-American countries would soon be a part of the country they hate so much.

    its all about fear...and takeover....haha cain thanks go on! keep proving my point....

    btw just so you know i love the American people and have very close American friends...i dont sterotype or judge all as a nation...i judge their choice of leader and decisions made by them that happen to affect the rest of the world
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    p.s don't vote for cain hehe
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    I don't have to prove anything right.

    I've always been a fan of world domination.

    We'll be the United States of Earth and I'll be Dictator Cain.
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    And DM will be on my advisory committee.

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    It must be really hard for people to comprehend that the US will actually act in its own best interest

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoesntMatter View Post
    It must be really hard for people to comprehend that the US will actually act in its own best interest
    It's really hard for me to comprehend why anyone would expect their country to do otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoesntMatter View Post
    It must be really hard for people to comprehend that the US will actually act in its own best interest
    Yeah, apparently the US is supposed to be willing to come to the aid of other countries while spending our own money to do it when there is no benefit to us at all.

    I fail to really see how that's logical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cain View Post
    Yeah, apparently the US is supposed to be willing to come to the aid of other countries while spending our own money to do it when there is no benefit to us at all.

    I fail to really see how that's logical.
    Do you even comprehend that these so called ‘help’ decisions are based on how much America can get….in fact they instigate and forcefully go to countries in the name of freedom while getting their own people killed unnecessarily as well as the native people killed…that’s not helping…that’s destructive
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    This thread is silly. Why do you people argue American politics with non-Americans? Are their opinions really so important to any of you?

    On behalf of misombra, I say vote for Obama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shh! View Post
    This thread is silly. Why do you people argue American politics with non-Americans? Are their opinions really so important to any of you?

    On behalf of misombra, I say vote for Obama.
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    ^ There is nothing good about this debate. All I see is ignorance.

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    Well, I don't really agree to Ecojeanne's arguments (or way of putting it all forward in one sentence or less), but at least having an outside opinion gives a point of view from countries that might have more than two actual options of political parties to choose from, and won't undergo the same media slant. And with the topic being about helping out in foreign countries, I don't see how only americans should be scrutinizing what happens outside of the borders. If it was an internal affairs thing, then yes.

    As for "helping", it depends entirely on what it is. Let's have a theoretical example.

    "US gives $1bn to rebuild Georgia"

    That's all well and good.

    However, if the administration would be back two years later and request the building of a missile defense system against supposed terrorist attacks (Czech Republic, anyone?) and use their previous aid as a lever to request it, it's exploiting an opportunity rather than helping.

    Aid is something you give, not a loan that you expect to be repaid in full. If it's not aid, call it by its true name - a business venture.

    Eeh, probably not making much sense, 7:42 in the morning is too early for me Z.z

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    i agree that with help from the u.s. comes all kinds of other bad stuff. we want souls in return for what we give.

    there's also those countries that **** it all up when they get it. or people give and give and never gets to the people that need it.
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