What do men in relationships really think when watching porn?

[tremolo]

Does anyone else have a vague suspicion that ctr916 is related to our friend Zuros?

[smackie9]

it will damage your outlook on sex and make you have high expectations of your partner thus leading to great disappointments and unhealthy sexual life

No it doesn't..... well it never did for me. It may have for some but it's not the root of their sexual issues, it may just amplfy the problems that already exist. Just like smokin weed or drinking....if you do it in moderation it shouldn't become a problem. You have your beliefs, others have theirs.

[DannyH]

Take this whole Casey Anthony thing. Vivid Entertainment has offered her a deal, ostensibly for the purpose that Casey will need 'looking after' after all her bad publicity, and they want to help her out financially. The real reason of course is that she'll sell videos and they'll make a fortune by encouraging her to degrade and further shame herself for predominantly male entertainment.

They backed out. Which I find funny as all hell when the porn industry ditches on you.. well you got problems. Porn really isn't exploiting women anymore. They are exploiting sex. More women are taking over in the porn industry now then ever. Ok back to the bickering

[ctr916]

And women don't? It would be easier, and I could make a lot more money stripping for a living than sitting in a library all day and teaching college students for peanuts, but I prefer to do something meaningful with my life that won't undermine my self-esteem and integrity.

Conventionally, it is men who use women for sex and then decide whether they will give her the relationship that she conventionally wants.

Right, because prostitution would solve everything.

It could depend on your money management skills. Some women in porn make enough in five years to "retire" on their income. It could depend on if you are willing to bear true witness to Capitalism whenever to cannot bear true witness to the Socialism of Religion and religious morals.

I won't quibble about convention; but then again, how many real men are chivalrous enough to wear shining suits of armor and hire the noble art of the chastity belt maker in modern times; by convention.

What would be wrong (assuming a more perfect world where women can "will" themselves to not get pregnant through recreational sex or have any worries concerning STDs), with a concept that it could be socially acceptable for women to use their superior "supply side" capacity, to use men for sex until they clamor for a relationship, simply so they don't have to "put out as much"?

As an opportunity cost; it could solve the issues of most men with women in a manner that could be considered better than what porn does now. Why is the reverse not true for women, if most, if not all gender studies claim that women have better communication skills, better people skills, and better relating and relationship skills? If our gender studies are wrong about that, what else are they also wrong about?

[ctr916]

You are not making sense again

What has that got to do with anything i said? You want women to be free and sexual and to **** like there was no tomorrow like it was Hugh Heffners birthday at the grotto and everyone is icing the cake with bodily fluids. Well sir, until men give up the double standard that they'll **** her but they would never mary her, that aint gonna happen.

Well you're correct there. However let me clarify... I was referring to a sexual mate, not a life mate. Two different things.

again wtf has that got to do with anything I said and what you are attempting to reply too?

In your own delusional mind, I'm sure you do. examples please? Perhaps if you drew a picture you'd make more sense.

I suppose that means something to you. (???)

Delusions of grandeur, much?

Since the most of your responses were total BS, I won't respond to them simply because they are too irrelevant to even bother with. However, I noticed you didn't have a good answer, even for a chick, to this simple question concerning honesty as a form of respect toward fellow human beings:

What is so difficult about any given woman simply being honest for sex in the same manner that many women complain about nice guys being honest for sex?

[ctr916]

Does anyone else have a vague suspicion that ctr916 is related to our friend Zuros?

Does anyone here have a vague suspicion that tremolo is merely being a bad sport after losing all of her "arguments" she didn't really have?

[tremolo]

Hahaha. Ok. Have it your way, man. But you have to admit - you and Zuros would get along famously.

[DannyH]

I swear people argue just to rip apart what other people say without actually proving their points right. Everybody is more concerned about proving the other person wrong instead of proving their idea is right. Which seems kind of silly.

I mean look at what you two were writing out. Nobody proved any real points nobody really discredited the other person's point of view. In all reality neither of you won and nobody actually lost.

[gril0044]

as a girl that watches it, I can tell you that it has nothing to do with boyfriend and I do not find the guys attractive in it. I'm just looking at the dick going in that girl! but if the guy is attractive, cool.. it's not an emotional thing for me, I might be bored and it's a pretty fun habit. but I also like it that my boyfriend does it (not sure if he does, but he doesn't as much as me). and I like when he takes care of himself.. in front of me, and me helping. I don't want my boyfriend to be involved in my sex life every time, it's fun to do it myself, and same for him, most likely.

[ctr916]

Hahaha. Ok. Have it your way, man. But you have to admit - you and Zuros would get along famously.

Never met the person; why did he win his easy arguments with you too?

[ctr916]

I swear people argue just to rip apart what other people say without actually proving their points right. Everybody is more concerned about proving the other person wrong instead of proving their idea is right. Which seems kind of silly.

I mean look at what you two were writing out. Nobody proved any real points nobody really discredited the other person's point of view. In all reality neither of you won and nobody actually lost.

It's not about winning or losing, but how you play the game.

[DannyH]

Since everybody has been getting confused of what a troll is as of late. Let's use this as an example of what a troll actually is.

[ctr916]

as a girl that watches it, I can tell you that it has nothing to do with boyfriend and I do not find the guys attractive in it. I'm just looking at the dick going in that girl! but if the guy is attractive, cool.. it's not an emotional thing for me, I might be bored and it's a pretty fun habit. but I also like it that my boyfriend does it (not sure if he does, but he doesn't as much as me). and I like when he takes care of himself.. in front of me, and me helping. I don't want my boyfriend to be involved in my sex life every time, it's fun to do it myself, and same for him, most likely.

I think the chicks can be pretty cute, simply being themselves in the most heterosexual of fashions. How many guys do you believe would consistently turn down a live girl in the same room, for the chance to masturbate to porn; if neither person in the relationship is in a "bad" mood?

[ctr916]

Since everybody has been getting confused of what a troll is as of late. Let's use this as an example of what a troll actually is.

Only trolls don't have a valid argument, is one example.

[VincenzoG91]

No, I am just more honest by true witness bearing, as a form of philosophical "virtue" if even if it is compatible with that moral "virtue"; and, it helps discover truth value through argumentation and therefor enables more realistic solutions to any given problem.

“All are lunatics, but he who can analyze his delusions is called a philosopher.” --Ambrose Bierce