This situation is making me feel ill.
This situation is making me feel ill.
"Sometimes the best way to throw a punch is to take a step back"~Morgan freeman
Things that could have been handled better:
Neither one of you should have driven on that night
I think under the circumstances (knowing that he is drunk) it was unwise to criticise his driving, I think it's pretty obvious that anyone who's drunk would not be in any condition to drive. You criticism was stating the obvious. To handle this situation better you may have offered for him to park the car and then catch the taxi back home so both of you could sleep it off and pick the car up sober in the morning.
I think both of you were wrong on a number of occasions. But that doesn't matter, what matters is will you learn from this experience?
Don't cry, don't regret and don't blame
Weak find the whip, willing find freedom
Towards the sun, carry your name
In warm hands you are given
Ask the wind for the way
Uncertainty's gone, your path will unravel
Accept all as it is and do not blame
God or the Devil
~Born to Live - Mavrik~
It's understandable to be so angry at him for talking about your father like that. He might have been pissed and a bit drunk so that's why it blurted out. While this might justify him at the time, there is no excuse for him not responding to your apologies. I think you should try telling him something like this: "Again I apologize for being naggy and mean the other night, I was a bit nervous and tipsy. Hope you aren't still mad about that, I'm sorry. The reason I got *really* pissed off is the things you said about my father. That really hurt me, because I had no idea you thought those things about him. I hope we can talk soon and clear things out, this situation is making me hurt even more". In other words, instead of attacking him, try to let him see things from your point of view.
Why isn't this in the Love Advice forum btw?
Sorry Bo, he was a jerk, but you were *stupid* to let him drive your car. You are asking the wrong question. Never, ever foist what is your responsibility on to someone else. This goes for BFs, spouses, bosses...anything really. Be smarter.
Second thoughts can generally be amended with judicious action; injudicious actions can seldom be recovered with second thoughts.
--Cyteen by C.J.Cherryh
Thanks true true. Next time we are finding a DD. For a second everyone was making me feel like i'm insane to be upset over something like that. Either way I probably shouldn't have said anything or nagged, but for him to retaliate with saying that was WAYYYY over the line.
He finally responded after playing the silent treatment ALL day yesterday and doesn't look like he's seeing where i'm coming from. He thinks because I told him things about my family(because i trust him) that it's ok because it's not technically coming from him. So he's saying he's pretty much repeating what I said while insulting me too, yep fkn lovely.
I think the thing that really hurt me is for someone who I've been with for almost 3 years to use something I told them in private because TRUST them, against me. For me, it'/s like WHOA that's pretty Fcked up of you.
So after all that nonsense I told him to leave me alone if he can't be nice and he texted me a couple hours later at 2:30 in the morn trying to brush it off after i ignored his last message to tell me to come over and stop fussing?
I'm not interested in dragging this out but I'm pissed off and really hurt still.
"Sometimes the best way to throw a punch is to take a step back"~Morgan freeman
He was out of order but I can't help but wonder if it's normal to swear at each other in a relationship. I don't know how normal this is in any other relationships but I can't simply tolerate it. It's very disrespectful in whatever context it may be.
“Really, sex and laughter do go very well together, and I wondered - and I still do - which is more important.” - Hermione Gingold-
fwiw, Bo, I'd be cross with a comment about my dad like he made to you. Those kinds of comments are what we call 'below the belt' and he needs to apologize for it. They are entirely designed to wound and he needs to own up to this. Its a separate issue from the car thing we discussed previously, which is why I didn't mention this until now, except to agree he's a jerk. You need to tell him this but in a way that leaves him some room to apologize while saving face.
Second thoughts can generally be amended with judicious action; injudicious actions can seldom be recovered with second thoughts.
--Cyteen by C.J.Cherryh
Vash, this is what pisses me off...my father was an alcoholic. He had problems with it while my siblings and I were growing up and he was very verbally/physically abusive. He's much better now but yes there's history there and for me yes it was a VERy below the belt jab at me. I don't know how to get the point across without getting upset.
"Sometimes the best way to throw a punch is to take a step back"~Morgan freeman
Well since you've revealed more then I have to say that he didn't insult your father (because sadly your father is a drinker/alcoholic) but rather he insulted you for saying you were just like him (him being your dad). Then, you got offended (most of us would be insulted) and then you insulted back in defence.
Why not just settle this and get on with your relationship or, reflect and decide if this guy is who you want to spend any more time with. He was wrong to respond to your nagging about his driving the way he did by throwing you a direct dig and you were wrong to respond to his dig comment the way you did out of hurt.
Now.. what are you going to do about it, particularily when he's not responding to you? (or has he since responded?) His further ignoring is a show of even more disrespect to you and your relationship.. ugh! Sorry!
Be aware of that in your own relationships.. that you don't settle for someone that is just like your father. (or shudders; you become like your father) Don't let yourself be accepting of him and/or verbal abuse in general (from you or to you) just because that is what you grew up in.my father was an alcoholic. He had problems with it while my siblings and I were growing up and he was very verbally/physically abusive.
Be well, Bo.
Last edited by Wakeup; 11-03-12 at 11:34 AM. Reason: adding more thoughts
It's possible that him calling your dad a drunk could have been descriptive rather than critical, but I think - based on what you posted, and based on your positive reputation from previous post history - that you heard the words he said in exactly the way he meant you to, so I wouldn't feel bad at all for telling him to **** off.
Relax... I'll need some information first. Just the basic facts - can you show me where it hurts?
I hope if either of you decide to drive while drunk then you kill yourselves and not anyone else.
Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away.
I don't feel bad for that but looking at it from the perspective of being the bigger person, I probably shouldn't have. And the Way he worded what he said was part of why I got upset.
Wakeup: He apologized for saying it but somehow I'm still not satisfied with the situation. It's just kinda sitting in the back of my head for now...
"Sometimes the best way to throw a punch is to take a step back"~Morgan freeman