First Time Sex - Girls Only

[RoxyFoxy]

Well roxy i wasn't trying to make anyone jealous...the point I was making was that you don't have to lie to sumone to enjoy sex....I do agree some guys do enjoy feeling in control and much more confident if they have had more experience...but why start a relationship w/ a lie? And a guy will only feel that he's just another guy on the list if you make him feel that way...

Who ever said that he has to find out? I feel sorry for all the women there in the US. You've all been brainwashed my male-controled media.

[XPixiedustX]

Who ever said that he has to find out? I feel sorry for all the women there in the US. You've all been brainwashed my male-controled media.

so now i'm brainwashed by a male controlled media because i like to be honest in a relationship?

[Junket]

You've all been brainwashed my male-controled media.

Where the hell did that come from?

Male controlled?

Are you kidding?

I wish that was the case, that way there'd be more hardcore porn and less of that softcore stuff on Showtime late at night.

[shh!]

I thought the media was under the control of capitalistic corporations out to seek a buck. Silly me.

[Junket]

I thought the media was under the control of capitalistic corporations out to seek a buck. Silly me.

Hmm...well according to white supremacism.

The Jews control the media.

And the government.

Probably even the world.

[Fawn]

Oooooo creepy. The media has taken over the world *runs in circles*

[RoxyFoxy]

I thought the media was under the control of capitalistic corporations out to seek a buck. Silly me.

Yes! How many of those CEOs and CFOs are men and how many are women? Men control the media by far, and they manipulate it to their needs. Think about the show Desperate Housewives. I've had the chance to follow several episodes, and I didn't find it amusing one bit. It's a mockery of women, so men can look at and laugh. I saw the episode where the single mother with the daughter gets locked outside her house naked, to be seen by the plumber she has grown to fancy. It is totally unrealistic and aimed to reflect male dominance. I know that Desperate Housewives is also a big hit there, and shurly you've seen the episode? Please tell me that you didn't think it was degrading!

[shh!]

I don't watch network TV. It is the opiate of the masses, the modern day equivalent of the Roman bread and circus games.

And by the way, I think the people watching that stupid show are primarily women, just like yourself.

[XPixiedustX]

Yes! How many of those CEOs and CFOs are men and how many are women? Men control the media by far, and they manipulate it to their needs. Think about the show Desperate Housewives. I've had the chance to follow several episodes, and I didn't find it amusing one bit. It's a mockery of women, so men can look at and laugh. I saw the episode where the single mother with the daughter gets locked outside her house naked, to be seen by the plumber she has grown to fancy. It is totally unrealistic and aimed to reflect male dominance. I know that Desperate Housewives is also a big hit there, and shurly you've seen the episode? Please tell me that you didn't think it was degrading!

Though i personally am not a fan plenty of my girlfriends are...maybe it is degrading but how ha sthat brainwashed us? ...and u still didn't tell me why it's a bad thing to be honest in a relationship...how is that a reflection of being brainwashed by a male dominated media? personally i think it's women who tend to manipulate men in a lot of relationships...

[RoxyFoxy]

personally i think it's women who tend to manipulate men in a lot of relationships...

You must be joking right? Men are the ones who like to toy with us. If you're smart, you just won't let them. I gave up on men toying with me a long time ago. I used to fall for the whole, them getting angry and me having to calm them down and bow down to them to do their bidding so that they would feel better. No more. That's insane! Let them become gay and find an other male screaming buddy if that's how they are. And the only reason I don't like to be honest in a relationship is simply because I don't like to give anyone, control over me. If my bf would know too much about me, he could easily control me anyway, and anytime he wanted to. There's no way I would take that risk! I've had enough being pushed around. There're some things that are for me to know, and for nobody else to find out.

[Aaron Blanc]

The Jews control the media

Excuse me? I'm jewish myself, and I take that comment very personaly. The jews do not control the media. It is equally split between many ethnic groups and is raided by presure from activists groups all the time. The "jews control the media" comment of yours is simply not true.

[XPixiedustX]

You must be joking right? Men are the ones who like to toy with us. If you're smart, you just won't let them. I gave up on men toying with me a long time ago. I used to fall for the whole, them getting angry and me having to calm them down and bow down to them to do their bidding so that they would feel better. No more. That's insane! Let them become gay and find an other male screaming buddy if that's how they are. And the only reason I don't like to be honest in a relationship is simply because I don't like to give anyone, control over me. If my bf would know too much about me, he could easily control me anyway, and anytime he wanted to. There's no way I would take that risk! I've had enough being pushed around. There're some things that are for me to know, and for nobody else to find out.

So roxy what about all teh women who use their body as leverage to get things...and all those girls that hold off on their bf's in order to control them...or all the girls that have their men wrapped around their pinkies making them work like dogs...now some men are no better...but my point is women do their share of manipulating too...infact if i recall correctly didn't you mention in one of your posts that you were gonna wait till after you married your bf to teach him a lesson for not pleasing you in bed...isn't that manipulation?
As for the second part of your post...that's what trust is all about....if you can't trust the person ur with enuf to completely open up to them...then u don't really trust them. The point is if sumone really loves you they would never abuse the power they hold over you...

[RoxyFoxy]

The point is if sumone really loves you they would never abuse the power they hold over you...

Yes, and in a perfect world I suppose, you could open up to anyone and tell them all the things about you that let them own you. But I don't know where you live, things are not like that at all in the real world. And no, women don't manipulate. We never "force" a guy to do anything, or scream at him to do something, we find other ways of suggesting, until they "themselves" comply. It takes alot more work, and it's not the same. Men are the ones who toy with us. I'm not talking about my current bf, but almost all of my ex's. If I could, I would have then on a leash until I knew they loved me so much, I would just call it off to watch them suffer. The same way I suffered with all of them and they didn't care. They all thought it was funny. And so will I, why should "I" be the one to feel bad? What about them? Are you saying that they souldn't feel bad at all?

[shh!]

Excuse me? I'm jewish myself, and I take that comment very personaly. The jews do not control the media. It is equally split between many ethnic groups and is raided by presure from activists groups all the time. The "jews control the media" comment of yours is simply not true.

Yippee, another Jew! (I thought I was the only one.) Maybe we can take over LoveForum together. What do you say? hahahhaha

[XPixiedustX]

Yes, and in a perfect world I suppose, you could open up to anyone and tell them all the things about you that let them own you. But I don't know where you live, things are not like that at all in the real world. And no, women don't manipulate. We never "force" a guy to do anything, or scream at him to do something, we find other ways of suggesting, until they "themselves" comply. It takes alot more work, and it's not the same. Men are the ones who toy with us. I'm not talking about my current bf, but almost all of my ex's. If I could, I would have then on a leash until I knew they loved me so much, I would just call it off to watch them suffer. The same way I suffered with all of them and they didn't care. They all thought it was funny. And so will I, why should "I" be the one to feel bad? What about them? Are you saying that they souldn't feel bad at all?

did i say anyone? No but at least to the person your in love with...I don't live in teh perfect world...and i've suffered at the hands of other men...but I won't treat teh guy i'm w/ now badly cuz of what they did...and i do hope they suffer, but i knwo exactly how it felt to be under their control...so why woudl i do that to sumone else...ur not the only one who's been through a lot of crap...but i'm not one to hold grudges...