What am I doing wrong?

[Junsui]

Again with this "charge" . You know believe it or not, not every single guy on the planet is Will Smith or whoever else you get this stuff from. Some guys are more shy, it takes awhile for them to become more comfortable and make the move, nothing wrong with that. "That is the game"...so much crap!

lol Asip. That's fine if you are more shy and take longer to try anything. I would think most girls wouldn't make the first move. I made the first move, but I was tired of waiting for him to.

[Asip4u]

lol Asip. That's fine if you are more shy and take longer to try anything. I would think most girls wouldn't make the first move. I made the first move, but I was tired of waiting for him to.

We're all unique in our own way. There are girls out there who are more straightforward and do make the first move especially if the guy is that shy type. If it's not in you it mostly likely won't happen so there's no point of telling people to do things the way they do them. "I was tired of waiting for him"..aww

[whaywardj]

Again, any chance to grab a punch at me.

WAYWAR, I must threaten the living shit out of you. My post had nothing MACHO MACHO, it was about being creative, assertive and planning a date.

No. More like I'm trying to do you a favor and let you know how you come across to some. Whatever your intentions happen to be. I haven't detected even a shadow of compassion in any of your posts. Lots of intelligence and charm, but nothing at all to suggest you have the slightest idea -- or interest -- in what anyone but yourself is about or is really going through. Just my opinion at the moment.

[whaywardj]

Fawk woman if they think this is how it is. I like to know from the girl straight forward if she likes me or not. Why am I going to hold her hand and all this BS if at the end shes just going to run away with her infatuation love anyways?


Well, it has to do with the class of women you choose to date. I am sure the women you date are more then happy to throw themselves at any man, and profess there love for you on the first date.

The women I chose to date are generally well spoken, professional, Degreed, and usually have plenty of dates lined up, so in other words, they can be choosey.

The above is a perfect example of what I'm referring to. Do you not see how haughty, snobbish and hostile it appears? Not at all anything that would cause me to warm up to a person. On the contrary.

[whaywardj]

"I was tired of waiting for him"..aww

I thought it was cute when she said that, too Asip. I like it when women put me in a headlock and say, "Commere, baby! Your MY ride tonight!"

Makes me all tingly.

[Asip4u]

I thought it was cute when she said that, too Asip. I like it when women put me in a headlock and say, "Commere, baby! Your MY ride tonight!"

Makes me all tingly.

lmao, Hayward, yea i like it too.

[Junsui]

lol Sometimes you just have to go after what you want!

[Asip4u]

lol Sometimes you just have to go after what you want!

--I agree with this post---

[Bluevetteracer]

The above is a perfect example of what I'm referring to. Do you not see how haughty, snobbish and hostile it appears? Not at all anything that would cause me to warm up to a person. On the contrary.

The response was to a hostile assessment.

I offer opinions, from my experience. I guess if you are educated, and prefer the finer things in life, you are a snob! Not everyone on here is in High School.

I was very shy for a period in my life. After realizing that the world does not come to you, you have to step up, and make the world happen for you.

I guess if you go across the grain here, you are considered a snobbish Dolt.

I have failed at many things in life Wayward, and admitting that bothers me in the least. But I have also succeeded at many as well.

So if you don't mind, spare me the Freudian assessment.

[whaywardj]

Bluevette: What is it again you're defending? What do you believe you were owed that wasn't given to you?

[funkybuddha]

Like everybody else says on here.....be the first to initiate. You had a wicked chance when you gave her a hug. Those 5 seconds was enough time to sneak in a little peck on the cheek. I've done it before..LOL. Anyways..control the situation and initiate and follow through! Good Luck!

[whaywardj]

An affair of the heart is not an exercise in goal achievement. I wouldn't treat it as such. It transforms the target of your affection into a mere object.

[poweredbuyer]

Thanks for all the great advice !

The situation is I am a little shy because I came out of a 5 year relationship and I am really into this girl. I get mixed signals but I want to make the move. And doing it tonite ! ...

We are going Go-Karting and check out some Haunted house followed by dinner. Seems like a fun activity to act silly like kids and hang out. How should I make the move alone or in a public relaxed enviornment. I need tips of how I should do this given what I am doing tonite.

Thanks!

[whaywardj]

Hey, here's a thought: How about NOT making "a move"? Unless all you're interested in is getting into her pants for a few minutes, the very phrase itself creates an awful mind set for anything beyond that. Contrary to a lot of braindead, power-tripping, adolescent-assed advice I've seen given on this thread, if you're really interested in her as a person and not just a piece of ass, it's not a game that HAS any moves -- you're ****ing around with somebody's feelings here -- and I'd advise you to just enjoy her company without having a hidden agenda of any sort. Saying something at the end of the evening along the lines of, "I really enjoyed your company tonight and would love to see you again," is perfectly adequate for ALL purposes. Don't even need to peck or hug her "goodnight." A plain ole handshake is just fine. If anything important is to come of it, that'll start the wheels rolling in the right direction WITHOUT anyone having to navigate the bumps of second-guessing what the other guy is REALLY up to...or anyone risking being put off by a "wrong move."

[CircleC]

Go-karting and haunted houses are awesome. Like you said, you can act silly like kids. Do that. It will be a blast. And kids don't worry about making a move either, so just be a silly kid and have fun. It will happen naturally then.