girls please give advice

[GrkScorp]

there's this book called "the game" by neil strauss... check it out.

don't waste your money on "the game".. there are better books out there.. and by the same author..

Style (Neil).. has come out with an other book which I think is much better, especially for guys who are relatively new to women, and at age 19, that's exactly the type of book I wish I had.. but it just simply didn't exist..

It's a great book; nothing magical, stuff you learn the more you go out and mingle with women.. but it never hurts to learn what would take 5-15 years and countless heartbreaks and rejections in a months (yes, 30 days!)..

The book breaks it down for you as a guy, "The Rules of the Game".. it's a two part series, a "How To" book, and a "How Not To" book..

I'd go on and on about the book, but this is one of Style's works i'm going to recommend 110%.. so just trust me.. get it.. and FAST! NOW! lol

[GrkScorp]

at a party or whatever, how would you prefer a guy to flirt with you? we all know its the guy that mainly has to do the first move, but most of us (including me) are scared and confused how to approach a good looking girl. any advice on how to come onto a girl in a way that makes her attracted to you? even if you personally know this person and dont want to give a bad impression...thanx

O.K. first of all, I should make a hyperlink to some of my posts which cover the same thing on this topic..

Now, I want to start off by saying.. attraction takes place in two ways (forms) with women..

1. It's there long before the guy even comes over (this is actually the weaker form of attraction)
2. It's not there until long after the guy comes over and starts talking (this is the stronger form of attraction)

I want you to break-off and delete this idea from your mind that attraction in women is like a switch that flips on when they see someone attractive, and off when they don't.. That's NOT how women work.. attraction for women is like a "dimmer".. and the way to turn the dimmer is by "sexual/romantic tension".. it can take as short as 1min or as long as 15mins before a woman feels attraction.. why?

"we all know it's the guy that mainly has to do the first move".. really? says who? the envorinment you're in.. and yes.. in the U.S. that's how the game is.. and you live in a society where women feel like they are the "supply" and men are the "demand".. that being the case.. as a woman.. she's constantly being approached by guys interested in her.. women learn pretty quickly to give tactful and polite "no" answers.. and at a very early age.. have developed a social shield.. very thick defensive armor.. when guys run right into this armor, attraction clearly doesn't take place.. BUT! when guys slowly peel away this armor.. make her throw down her shield and open up and relax a little.. they tap into a comfort zone of the girl.. and attraction stands a much better chance..

"but most of us (including me) are scared and confused how to approach a good looking girl".. I agree, and that's mostly the fault of conservative parenting and the media.. It's not exactly a topic most fathers and mothers openly talk about.. and if they do, they're vague about it, because at that age, they don't even know or remember.. so you're left looking at the media as a guy in search of a model to base your social learning off of.. and the media hands you this picture of the guy going up to women.. and one-lining them "hey there beautiful".. and then the women respond, but that's only because it's on T.V. and guys are left LOST on how to interact with women.. so what i'm going to do for you now.. is help you break and get rid of some garbage and lies around dating and flirting that are probably sitting in your mind..

1. Women want someone who's sensitive.. (what horsecrap).. there's some truth to this statement, but in the eyes of a skilled reader.. I want you to shift the focus from the word (sensitive).. and place it on the word (someone).. who is this someone? is it a woman? a boy? a dog? NO! it's a MAN! women want a MAN, above all else.. and they want him to have all the qualities a MAN should have.. now, on top of that.. and as a small added bonus, like a cherry on the ice-cream, they would like it if this MAN would also have a sensitive side to him.. so, what IS this, and what ISN'T it?

a. A guy who loves art, poetry, music, dance, has understood and felt a deep emotional connection with the notebook, who loves kids, and can't wait to get married someday, is not a MAN in the eyes of a woman.. at BEST, this comes off as not geniune and fake..

b. A guy who loves hanging out with his friends, doing what he's interested in; but isn't completely closed off to the idea of stuff you may like, but only because YOU like them (art, poetry, music, dance).. he maybe watched the notebook once, and maybe like 1 or 2 parts, but "doesn't get why chicks are crazy over that movie", he's open the the idea of kids and marriage, but it's one of those things he feels would just HAPPEN when he meets that person.. and it's not the case that he actively looks for it.. THIS IS A MAN.. who happens to be sensitive..

think of it like ordering an ice-cream with a cherry on top.. how put off would you be if your order looked more like a cherry with some ice-cream on the bottom? you ordered ICE-CREAM, not a cherry.. the cherry is the bonus, not what you were craving..

2. Don't worry, this is the last one.. lol.. Women want someone who's successful, rich, and of high status.. (at your age.. most of this doesn't apply.. but as time goes on, it starts to slowly hold SOME truth to it).. But as a general framework, let's look at the two components; (successful/rich, high status).. the first thing to notice as that successful/rich go together while high status is seperate.. this is because status is a social concept, NOT a financial concept.. but more importantly, this will hopefully get you thinking about a woman's psyche', and how to read and listen to things.. because successful/rich may mean just that to YOU, but what women don't have such rigid demands.. they are largely flexible.. they like to shoot for the tip of the mountain and act like they have unreasonably high demands, but would easily settle for a tall-ish hill.. this is because (looks; the one component they know they have to work with and attract males with.. is something that's NOT unique to them.. there are ALOT of good-looking women out there, and they know it.. so there's good reason to be insecure.. because good female catches are more common than good male catches)..

that being the case.. successful/rich means nothing more than "Goals, Ambition, Determination, Passion".. these things are sexy, because they set the stage and suggest/imply that success/riches will follow.. women want a guy who is PASSIONATE about something.. it could be anything.. for as long as it's deep heartfelt PASSION.. and the guy is determined and ambitious about going somewhere.. where? well, that's why GOALS are important.. women want to see respectable goals that guys have.. and with reasonable and realistic means (plans) of reaching those goals.. this shows them subconciously.. that "hey, this guy knows what he wants to do, and knows how to get there, and it's not a bad place to want to be at all ($$$).. he has direction.. which is a manly quality"..

now, the best for last; STATUS.. this is quite arguably the most important feature a man can have.. BUT! it doesn't mean you need to be the lead guitarist for the hottest band, or on the cover of GQ or Forbes 500, or the leader of the "in-crowd" in your school.. not at all.. STATUS is NOT something you flaunt, it's something that's implied.. it's something that women will pick up on by the INDIRECT things you do.. to understand it better, i'll need to give you some examples..

most guys go through the tragedy of "showing off".. and "selling themselves" to women they like.. they will start to BRAG.. which they (men) feel is indirect and sly, as if they're being cleaver and nobody is catching on to what they're really trying to do (show off how great they are, and try to impress her).. but this comes off as cheap, sleezy, dishonest, and unattractive.. EVEN IF IT'S TRUE! what!?!?!?

yes, think about it.. you are sitting with a beautiful woman, and feel like you need to flaunt things about you to get her attention.. under all the obvious concious conversation.. there's a world of subconcious communication.. where you (man) are telling her "i'm insecure about myself".. and she (woman) is asking herself "he's insecure about himself.. that must mean that i'm overqualified relative to him, so he's not a high quality guy I should be wasting my time with.. he's not even confident and comfortable with himself"..

so as you see.. the game of STATUS, is a game of it's own.. and it's a fun game you have to master, because I feel it's really what women are drawn to.. it's like the building block for attraction on a primative/subconcious level.. a desireable status is one where the man says (implicitly) "i'm confident in myself, I know my self-worth, and it's just-at or beyond being here and talking to you.. i'm almost doing you a favor by giving you the prospect of a relationship with me.. because I know i'm such a high-quality guy; i'd like to know if YOU (girl) are worth it for me.. so I want to test and prove that YOU (girl) are worth my time.. so it's YOU (girl) that has to prove yourself to me (guy)"... this speaks volumes about who you are.. the quality of MAN you are.. more than any job title or social circle can tell about you..

non-woman example: This is a salesman technique in real-estate.. where a buyer comes in feeling "too good" to "settle" for "junk houses".. so for those houses which he calls "junk houses".. and are actually not bad houses.. you flip the table on him.. instead of HIM having to tell you if he would like to buy the house (if the house is good enough for him).. HE has to first "qualify" to buy the house (if he's good enough for the house).. after a marathon of credit checks, income verification, job letters, backround checks, board approvals, etc.. he feels like he's EARNED something.. and in a way.. you've just convinced him..

The military also uses this strategy for people who feel they are "too good" to join the army.. for people who feel like they're not "good enough".. they sit them down, act helpful and reassuring.. but for people who feel they are "too good".. there is a "dummy test" they make you take.. and low-&-behold! you barely passed, or you did well, and you "qualify".. you've "made it"! and that's the hook..

[GrkScorp]

most of us (including me) are scared and confused how to approach a good looking girl. any advice on how to come onto a girl in a way that makes her attracted to you? even if you personally know this person and dont want to give a bad impression...thanx

don't despair.. most people will rush to tell you that you're in danger of the "friend zone".. maybe you're even there by now.. ignore that for a second.. look at your competative advantage.. YOU'RE in! you're already in the belly of the beast.. you're talking to her.. you've broke that initial contact for better or for worse.. so the hardest part (meeting a stranger) is done.. it's over.. that's a GOOD THING.. so just realize that advantage that you have already.. and relax..

now.. to a practical female-dating example: you don't talk about yourself.. and when you do.. you don't try and "sell yourself or brag".. because that screams insecurity.. you want to project confidence and self-worth.. you want to imply that there is a high-quality guy under the mask you put on that she doesn't even know about yet, but YOU do and you're more than happy and content with that guy.. when questions come up and lead to "relationships".. who YOU'RE attracted to.. you should make it a challenge.. people like to WORK for things.. they WANT them more if they have to WORK for them, and they're not readily or easily available.. so say something like "I don't know, it's really hard for me to meet women I feel attracted to.. I mean, I know a good-looking girl when I see one, but there are TONS of good-looking girls.. that's something that's REALLY common.. I guess the three things that I look for which are really rare are 1. (personal identity & energy) 2. character & personality 3. outlook on the future.." casual conversation is just a "mask".. to her.. this is like a "challenge".. she's thinking "hmm.. so he's not one of those guys i'm going to win over based on looks.. and it's almost like he just told me he's not interested in me (an attractive female who gets attention all the time, i'm almost bothered).. now I WANT to prove to myself even if it's out of ego, that i'm attractive and "worth it" to him.."

you're playing on two things here.. (insecurity & ego).. it's a powerful combination.. and it's going to work EVERYTIME with attractive women.. but.. to get the ball rolling.. Get Style's book "The Rules of the Game" and ask out your "friend" with a playful bet.. (if she wins, let her say something.. anything.. but if "I" win.. you owe me lunch, or a trip to ____.. or a coffee.. whatever)..

here is the "game" you're going to play.. and why you're going to WIN this bet and trick her into a date..

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take care little man..

[Only-virgins]

O.K. first of all, I should make a hyperlink to some of my posts which cover the same thing on this topic..

Now, I want to start off by saying.. attraction takes place in two ways (forms) with women..

1. It's there long before the guy even comes over (this is actually the weaker form of attraction)
2. It's not there until long after the guy comes over and starts talking (this is the stronger form of attraction)

I want you to break-off and delete this idea from your mind that attraction in women is like a switch that flips on when they see someone attractive, and off when they don't.. That's NOT how women work.. attraction for women is like a "dimmer".. and the way to turn the dimmer is by "sexual/romantic tension".. it can take as short as 1min or as long as 15mins before a woman feels attraction.. why?

"we all know it's the guy that mainly has to do the first move".. really? says who? the envorinment you're in.. and yes.. in the U.S. that's how the game is.. and you live in a society where women feel like they are the "supply" and men are the "demand".. that being the case.. as a woman.. she's constantly being approached by guys interested in her.. women learn pretty quickly to give tactful and polite "no" answers.. and at a very early age.. have developed a social shield.. very thick defensive armor.. when guys run right into this armor, attraction clearly doesn't take place.. BUT! when guys slowly peel away this armor.. make her throw down her shield and open up and relax a little.. they tap into a comfort zone of the girl.. and attraction stands a much better chance..

"but most of us (including me) are scared and confused how to approach a good looking girl".. I agree, and that's mostly the fault of conservative parenting and the media.. It's not exactly a topic most fathers and mothers openly talk about.. and if they do, they're vague about it, because at that age, they don't even know or remember.. so you're left looking at the media as a guy in search of a model to base your social learning off of.. and the media hands you this picture of the guy going up to women.. and one-lining them "hey there beautiful".. and then the women respond, but that's only because it's on T.V. and guys are left LOST on how to interact with women.. so what i'm going to do for you now.. is help you break and get rid of some garbage and lies around dating and flirting that are probably sitting in your mind..

1. Women want someone who's sensitive.. (what horsecrap).. there's some truth to this statement, but in the eyes of a skilled reader.. I want you to shift the focus from the word (sensitive).. and place it on the word (someone).. who is this someone? is it a woman? a boy? a dog? NO! it's a MAN! women want a MAN, above all else.. and they want him to have all the qualities a MAN should have.. now, on top of that.. and as a small added bonus, like a cherry on the ice-cream, they would like it if this MAN would also have a sensitive side to him.. so, what IS this, and what ISN'T it?

a. A guy who loves art, poetry, music, dance, has understood and felt a deep emotional connection with the notebook, who loves kids, and can't wait to get married someday, is not a MAN in the eyes of a woman.. at BEST, this comes off as not geniune and fake..

b. A guy who loves hanging out with his friends, doing what he's interested in; but isn't completely closed off to the idea of stuff you may like, but only because YOU like them (art, poetry, music, dance).. he maybe watched the notebook once, and maybe like 1 or 2 parts, but "doesn't get why chicks are crazy over that movie", he's open the the idea of kids and marriage, but it's one of those things he feels would just HAPPEN when he meets that person.. and it's not the case that he actively looks for it.. THIS IS A MAN.. who happens to be sensitive..

think of it like ordering an ice-cream with a cherry on top.. how put off would you be if your order looked more like a cherry with some ice-cream on the bottom? you ordered ICE-CREAM, not a cherry.. the cherry is the bonus, not what you were craving..

2. Don't worry, this is the last one.. lol.. Women want someone who's successful, rich, and of high status.. (at your age.. most of this doesn't apply.. but as time goes on, it starts to slowly hold SOME truth to it).. But as a general framework, let's look at the two components; (successful/rich, high status).. the first thing to notice as that successful/rich go together while high status is seperate.. this is because status is a social concept, NOT a financial concept.. but more importantly, this will hopefully get you thinking about a woman's psyche', and how to read and listen to things.. because successful/rich may mean just that to YOU, but what women don't have such rigid demands.. they are largely flexible.. they like to shoot for the tip of the mountain and act like they have unreasonably high demands, but would easily settle for a tall-ish hill.. this is because (looks; the one component they know they have to work with and attract males with.. is something that's NOT unique to them.. there are ALOT of good-looking women out there, and they know it.. so there's good reason to be insecure.. because good female catches are more common than good male catches)..

that being the case.. successful/rich means nothing more than "Goals, Ambition, Determination, Passion".. these things are sexy, because they set the stage and suggest/imply that success/riches will follow.. women want a guy who is PASSIONATE about something.. it could be anything.. for as long as it's deep heartfelt PASSION.. and the guy is determined and ambitious about going somewhere.. where? well, that's why GOALS are important.. women want to see respectable goals that guys have.. and with reasonable and realistic means (plans) of reaching those goals.. this shows them subconciously.. that "hey, this guy knows what he wants to do, and knows how to get there, and it's not a bad place to want to be at all ($$$).. he has direction.. which is a manly quality"..

now, the best for last; STATUS.. this is quite arguably the most important feature a man can have.. BUT! it doesn't mean you need to be the lead guitarist for the hottest band, or on the cover of GQ or Forbes 500, or the leader of the "in-crowd" in your school.. not at all.. STATUS is NOT something you flaunt, it's something that's implied.. it's something that women will pick up on by the INDIRECT things you do.. to understand it better, i'll need to give you some examples..

most guys go through the tragedy of "showing off".. and "selling themselves" to women they like.. they will start to BRAG.. which they (men) feel is indirect and sly, as if they're being cleaver and nobody is catching on to what they're really trying to do (show off how great they are, and try to impress her).. but this comes off as cheap, sleezy, dishonest, and unattractive.. EVEN IF IT'S TRUE! what!?!?!?

yes, think about it.. you are sitting with a beautiful woman, and feel like you need to flaunt things about you to get her attention.. under all the obvious concious conversation.. there's a world of subconcious communication.. where you (man) are telling her "i'm insecure about myself".. and she (woman) is asking herself "he's insecure about himself.. that must mean that i'm overqualified relative to him, so he's not a high quality guy I should be wasting my time with.. he's not even confident and comfortable with himself"..

so as you see.. the game of STATUS, is a game of it's own.. and it's a fun game you have to master, because I feel it's really what women are drawn to.. it's like the building block for attraction on a primative/subconcious level.. a desireable status is one where the man says (implicitly) "i'm confident in myself, I know my self-worth, and it's just-at or beyond being here and talking to you.. i'm almost doing you a favor by giving you the prospect of a relationship with me.. because I know i'm such a high-quality guy; i'd like to know if YOU (girl) are worth it for me.. so I want to test and prove that YOU (girl) are worth my time.. so it's YOU (girl) that has to prove yourself to me (guy)"... this speaks volumes about who you are.. the quality of MAN you are.. more than any job title or social circle can tell about you..

non-woman example: This is a salesman technique in real-estate.. where a buyer comes in feeling "too good" to "settle" for "junk houses".. so for those houses which he calls "junk houses".. and are actually not bad houses.. you flip the table on him.. instead of HIM having to tell you if he would like to buy the house (if the house is good enough for him).. HE has to first "qualify" to buy the house (if he's good enough for the house).. after a marathon of credit checks, income verification, job letters, backround checks, board approvals, etc.. he feels like he's EARNED something.. and in a way.. you've just convinced him..

The military also uses this strategy for people who feel they are "too good" to join the army.. for people who feel like they're not "good enough".. they sit them down, act helpful and reassuring.. but for people who feel they are "too good".. there is a "dummy test" they make you take.. and low-&-behold! you barely passed, or you did well, and you "qualify".. you've "made it"! and that's the hook..

Holy shit you need a life.

[nuevo]

Holy shit you need a life.

You need a life assh***

He wrote lots of good advices, some are right, some are wrong, but the only sucker here that actually needs a life... is you!!!!

[Only-virgins]

You need a life assh***

He wrote lots of good advices, some are right, some are wrong, but the only sucker here that actually needs a life... is you!!!!

Oh yea good one. That guy didn't write advice. He wrote a book. Wasted the TCs time if anything. You can say what you need too in a few short sentences....if you are smart that is.