Some people can turn it around but are you verbally gifted?
Some people can turn it around but are you verbally gifted?
A strong woman takes advantage of help she can get from people around her but she doesn't rely on them for anything
She uses logic and manages her emotions
She offers help either because it is a business transaction or out of kindness. It is never because she hopes others will return the favour or out of fear of losing them
She has her own mind and thinks for herself and knows that she has to be the one who bears the consequences of her decisions
It's not the same thing because misogyny is a very real issue in our society, and the male equivalent is not. So words that are misogynistic in nature have a different kind of negative meaning compared to words that are not. It's all about context.
It's a bit like saying that the N word and the term "redneck" are equally insulting.
So, in your incoherent rambling, you found it appropriate to scorn me by doing the exact same thing you are accusing me of? Call the kettle black much, Pot? It's nice to know I can get that deep under your skin sweetheartAnyway, I don't really care whether people take my words with a grain of salt or not. I say what I feel like saying. Your feelings about it don't concern me. Ever try ignoring people you don't like, instead of bitching and moaning?
Searock, cunt, twat, dick, prick are all names for genitalia, so..they are the same insult. If you decide you want to take one worse than the other, that's your prerogative.
Last edited by BackUpOrGetStng; 03-09-13 at 02:28 AM.
Cunt is sexist, dick and prick are not sexist. I don't think you use it in a sexist way, but it's still a sexist word in some places.
This is pretty much how I see it:Back on topic now :-).There is a lot of shame and ridicule of female gentalia. Blowjobs have been normalized, but it is “disgusting” for a cismale to perform cunnilingus. Phallic symbols are easily recognized and used for comedic effect, but oftentimes I see that talk about vulvas and such and their apperance is largely negative.
I think that yes there is shame about bodyparts, but I think that there is still a lot of -isms when it comes to gentalia. Penises on white cismen are seen as okay, but any other variation is seen as fair game for ridicule, criticism, policing, etc.
Yes, cunt is just a bodypart, but it is still very politicized. I don’t think we have the luxury to just see it as a mere alternative to vagina or vulva.
(http://f*ckyeahfeminists.com/post/7480936570/excuse-my-ignorance-here-but-im-a-little-unsure)
Of course the cunts running a feminism website aren't going to like the word. I'm doing my part to depoliticize it.
Prick is a guy who is an asshole. Cunt is a woman who is a bitch. I don't think either is sexist, though they do refer to the "dangly bits"(thanks WakeUp), of a specific gender. I don't see how either shows more prejudice or is more discriminatory than the other..which are the defining factors of sexism. Take it however you want though.
Last edited by BackUpOrGetStng; 03-09-13 at 04:06 AM.
Lol ...
Second thoughts can generally be amended with judicious action; injudicious actions can seldom be recovered with second thoughts.
--Cyteen by C.J.Cherryh
Well the fact that feminists don't like the word just makes it more likely to be in fact a sexist word, n'est-ce pas?
I appreciate the good intentions, even if I don't think that approach is effective.I'm doing my part to depoliticize it.
You might want to sometimes use the word "dick" instead of your default "cunt", in your posts insulting the various OPs. Just to make it less gender-biased :-).
No, the fact that feminists(the obnoxious bra burner types) think it's sexist reflects on them and how misinformed and up tight they are, not the word itself. Like I said, discrimination is a pillar of sexism, and you still haven't explained how one discriminates more than the other.
It's not the word per se that discriminates, it's the context that surrounds it that makes it sexist. In a "perfect" (i.e. sexism-free) world, the words "cunt" and "dick" would be perfectly interchangeable. We have a long way to go before we can use words tied to sexism, racism, homotransphobia, etc., without them having any sexist, racist, homotransphobic connotation.
Nothing about the response to that question on the site I linked indicated that it's a site run by obnoxious persons.
I beg to differ. The first 3 sentences of the excerpt you posted scream out obnoxious, presumptuous bitch.
Anyway, if you choose to give certain words power, that's on you. Don't be upset with me for using them.
This is what is wrong with the feminist movement, that pulling a word (cunt) that has a masculine counterpart (prick) and saying one is "discrimination" while the other is not is complete and utter BS. There is a reason why the feminist movement has little power behind it, it is because when you waste your time on arbitrary battles, the actual war you're trying to fight gets lost on everyone else but yourself.
I personally see no difference between calling a woman a "cunt" and a guy a "prick", they mean the same thing. I however never call anyone either, because respect given is respect gained.
"All is fair in love and war." - Francis Edward Smedley
I'm not giving power to the word, society is giving it power. I would be extremely happy if it didn't have that power at all.
Cerby, sexism is very deeply ingrained in almost every aspect of society and it's important to fight it in every one of those instances. It is absolutely false that the feminist movement has little power behind it, by the way. Last century, women weren't even allowed to vote. We have come an immensely long way. I'm glad that to you (and probably to BackUp as well) the words "cunt" and "prick" hold the same meaning. The goal is to make it so that everyone feels the same way about it. Pointing out that to you the two words are interchangeable, and actually using them interchangeably, is a good start.
Regardless of how you choose to take the words, they're the same thing to their respective gender.
Just because I don't get all bent out of shape if someone calls me a prick and you choose to be offended by the word cunt, doesn't mean one is worse than the other. Those are reflections of me and you, not the words.
Words have power. If you doubt this, go visit NYC harlem at night and call someone nigger.
Stung, I suppose if you call someone cunt and she beats the crap out of you (or her BF does), then you might rethink your position. Same as if you call a guy a prick, right? It's about context.
Anyway, I still think Stung merely stated what the OPs guy friend was thinking. I also agree with Cerb about respect. I hope your mother doesn't hear you use those words in public, Stung.
Second thoughts can generally be amended with judicious action; injudicious actions can seldom be recovered with second thoughts.
--Cyteen by C.J.Cherryh