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    You don't have a frame of reference to make this claim LR, you are too young. Or, if you prefer, there is also hard data that says otherwise.

    Look up medication rates, obesity.. the expansion of the DSM in the last 60 years. Iatrogenic. Victimization >> personal responsibility. Intolerance to unhappiness. Not everyone, but many more than past generations.

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    My point was, houses have always been broken and bad remedies have always been suggested. Personally, I blame Malthusian problems such as population strain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vashti View Post
    Very possibly, though so many kids are such drama queens these days, they may just be throwing the term around for attention. All I know is that I see a LOT of psych medication being prescribed. It's alarming.
    Gotta say though, psych meds do have their place. Risperidone has been great for my son.
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    I wanted to add, until recent times it's been known that Risperidone helps with significant behavioural issues in autism. But there wasn't clearance from the drug admin for doctors (here in Oz) to prescribe for autism, so the doctors would get around the red tape by diagnosing a mental illness. Crazy stuff when you've got to mis-diagnose to give the patients the help they need.

    For what it's worth, I was anti medication for my son. Then puberty kicked in and all the wheels fell off. It's amazing how one's attitude can change when it's necessary.
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    Indi, I agree that there is over-prescribing of meds. However, some people DO suffer debilitating depression despite all the emotional support in the world.
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    Ugh. I have no patience for those who speak the obvious. You are deliberately missing the real point and wanting sympathy for your specific issues. Whatever. You'll have to look elsewhere for my approval, sorry.
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    Who are you talking to, Indi?
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    Whoever wants to claim this garb for themselves, I suppose. Equal opportunity self-flaggelation.
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    Whoa. Fatigued me is confused. Probably shouldn't be tackling heady subjects like this after such a long day. Forget I said anything..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Love'sReject View Post
    Whoa. Fatigued me is confused. Probably shouldn't be tackling heady subjects like this after such a long day. Forget I said anything..
    It's my posts which Indi is talking about.

    Indi, I'm not after your approval or your sympathy. I agree that the meds are over prescribed, but I object to blanket statements such as "we all did fine before the anti-depressant pushers came along" (paraphrasing). Not everyone did fine. And I believe such broad statements further ostracise those who do have mental health issues. And I'm speaking broadly - not about anyone in particular

    The defunct mental asylum 1km from where I live is testament to everyone not being 'fine'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by basilandthyme View Post
    Gotta say though, psych meds do have their place. Risperidone has been great for my son.
    Absolutely, they have their place. My daughter also takes medication she NEEDS to prevent seizures, including a benzo, which breaks my heart. I do not object to ALL use, just the over-prescribing. But seriously, the biggest issue I have is with pain medication. I believe people have an unrealistic expectation that they should never feel pain.
    Relax... I'll need some information first. Just the basic facts - can you show me where it hurts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by basilandthyme View Post
    Indi, I'm not after your approval or your sympathy. I agree that the meds are over prescribed, but I object to blanket statements such as "we all did fine before the anti-depressant pushers came along" (paraphrasing). Not everyone did fine. And I believe such broad statements further ostracise those who do have mental health issues. And I'm speaking broadly - not about anyone in particular
    Good. In this case I will invite you to re-read Vash's original post. Do you believe that 1:10 americans require antidepressant meds?
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    Quote Originally Posted by IndiReloaded View Post
    Good. In this case I will invite you to re-read Vash's original post. Do you believe that 1:10 americans require antidepressant meds?
    No, I don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vashti View Post
    But seriously, the biggest issue I have is with pain medication. I believe people have an unrealistic expectation that they should never feel pain.
    Funnily enough, I gave birth both times without pain relief. But I take a headache tablet if I don't have the option to have a rest. And if my daughter gets terrible period pain, I'll give her meds for that too. Horses for courses I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by basilandthyme View Post
    Funnily enough, I gave birth both times without pain relief. But I take a headache tablet if I don't have the option to have a rest. And if my daughter gets terrible period pain, I'll give her meds for that too. Horses for courses I guess.
    The doctors in the Emergency Room wanted to give my daughter morphine for a migraine-like headache after she had a seizure. I mean really, who takes morphine for a headache? Obviously, I said no. All she needed was advil.
    Relax... I'll need some information first. Just the basic facts - can you show me where it hurts?

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