blowjob

[IndiReloaded]

You sound like a good lover, Fras, despite your newness to it. There are a lot of uptight ppl out there who aren't willing to even try something to see if they like it.

Try your GF out on some ben wah balls. Fun.

[secretlife]

[QUOTE=Frasbee;391049]Degrading?

How is that degrading?

[QUOTE]

maybe im too conservative in my mind (though lately im doing things i never tought i would ever do)
well for me in love and sex everything has a symbolic meaning. a mouth is there to be kissed, a pussy to be f...ed (i mean "filled" of course ) and a mouth should generally represent a higher value than a pussy, and so it would be a degradation for a mouth to be used like a pussy. maybe this is not quite clear for a man who thinks only about getting his satisfaction, but i dont speak about giving satisfaction, i speak generally, a mouth is a "noble" part of the human body, its the organ to speak with and speaking makes us being human, it can whisper in your ears "i love you" and kiss you, and that makes us being more than just animals that have fully functionable pussies as well.

a penis is used to piss with and cum, and belongs surely not to the noblest parts of the body (as well as pussies)
getting the cum into the mouth is also not a very desirable thing...
then often blowjobs are made kneeling in front of the man... at least when you see pictures about it, this is very often the position. but even if its done in the bed, and the woman just leans over her partner the position is clearly unequal. he is laying comfortable, wachting her, perhaps even holding her head, while she has not much of pleasure from it, her job is only to give him pleasure...

then if you listen to it how guys speak about it among themselves, most often its used as an offence, "she sucked him" is something like she is a slut, while "he made her suck him" is rather a boast, a glory...

a 69 is clearly something different, and making oral sex on mutual basis may be ok as well, but still the part who is doing the oral job, seems to be in a serving position.
but even when comparing the same oral service between man and woman, for me it seems more degrading for the woman. maybe its because guys are usually more active in sex, so if they do it, they do it voluntarily, they "do it to her", they "take her", and they just can take her as they like. on the other hand when she does it, its rather "she is made to do it", "she is doing him a favour"...

well, im not sooooo much against it as it seems from this post, but still for me its quite evident a degrading thing, that should be regarded as a great favour when done to a man.

[Junket]

maybe its because guys are usually more active in sex, so if they do it, they do it voluntarily, they "do it to her", they "take her", and they just can take her as they like. on the other hand when she does it, its rather "she is made to do it", "she is doing him a favour"...

well, im not sooooo much against it as it seems from this post, but still for me its quite evident a degrading thing, that should be regarded as a great favour when done to a man.

Whoa.

Sounds to me like you've seen too much porn or somethin'.

You have to stop thinkin' about it as if you were gonna give head to a stranger and more like pleasuring someone you really care about (because it's fun). You also better forgo receiving oral with that kind of self righteous attitude, otherwise you'll be a hypocrite.

I've mentioned this before elsewhere, but one of my better friends (guy) actually used to share your mindset. He literally used the word "degrading". We all scoffed at him, then again we were teenage boys at the time.

Time came and he got a girlfriend, who was perfectly respectable, and it turns out he ended up changing his mind about receiving oral sex.

Why?

Because she didn't understand why he found it offensive. She wanted to give it to him, and he initially refused. Explaining his reasons. So what she meant to be a fun and kind gesture, he turned into something negative.

It's about your mind set and attitude.

I don't lie on my back and think "yeah bitch, suck my dick". Well, if it's raunchy sex I might. But just last night, she went down on me and it was euphoria. All I was thinking was "oh my god, thank you!!!". And you can bet your ass I returned the favor.

Now, you mentioned symbolism. Which really didn't surprise me at all because it tends to be individuals that put emphasis on symbolism (often found around here as hopeless romantics), who have little quirks like this. And while sex will always have it's symbolic side, there is of course a less serious, less defined, and more fun side to it as well.

I would suggest for you and your relationships', current or futures' good, that you open yourself up to both sides of sex before you make a decision.

[secretlife]

you are partially right, i admit, but im not a hypocrite.
it just annoys me when guys want it to be done to them, they even ask "why in hell should it be degrading?", and then when they speak among themselves "sucking off" is a clear offence... boys in the street speak about their female teacher who gave them a bad grade at school, and they tell, she should suck them off, as a synonym for kiss their ass... please dont do as if you didnt know what i speak about...

but when we look at it ONLY as a way of sex, only as a method to give an receive pleasure between lovers, then you are right (provided the next day he wont boast about it to all his friends, making them laugh in a dirty manner...)

still i cant help i feel its degrading, probably im too conservative, plus im not 20 anymore, and my ex and my old boyfriends were also not very good in oral matters... and changing my way of thinking is not just a question of decision

in my new secret life i try out new things, and probably i will also give a blowjob, but im sure i will feel it degrading.

[Gribble]

By that logic sex is degrading. Period.

"Yeah, I ****ed that bitch. I ****ed her good."

"What's the difference between a freshman chick and a toilet? Toilets don't follow you around when you're done using them."

Degrading, right? Yet not all sex has to be degrading. It can be fun, emotional, or whatever. Blowjobs are no different, love. I think you're grasping for some kind of justification for your personal fears.

If you're with the right guy it won't have to be a degrading experience.

[secretlife]

By that logic sex is degrading. Period.

"Yeah, I ****ed that bitch. I ****ed her good."

"What's the difference between a freshman chick and a toilet? Toilets don't follow you around when you're done using them."

Degrading, right? Yet not all sex has to be degrading. It can be fun, emotional, or whatever. Blowjobs are no different, love. I think you're grasping for some kind of justification for your personal fears.

If you're with the right guy it won't have to be a degrading experience.

there is a "small" difference though: sex can give satisfaction to women!

[Gribble]

I get a great deal of satisfaction out of pleasuring a woman orally. I love it. Pleasure through pleasuring.

[BlackWater]

A very good blowjob is simply amazing.

[Gigabitch]

a mouth is there to be kissed, a pussy to be f...ed (i mean "filled" of course ) and a mouth should generally represent a higher value than a pussy, and so it would be a degradation for a mouth to be used like a pussy .

Speak for yourself. Mine is fabulous, and easily worth as much as my mouth. It gets treated right, too.

You have to stop thinkin' about it as if you were gonna give head to a stranger and more like pleasuring someone you really care about

I totally agree. This is something I do for the man I love, not some random dude.

there is a "small" difference though: sex can give satisfaction to women!

There's no guarantee of that. Plenty of guys come and go, without a moment of consideration. I find oral to be more intimate, more purposeful. It's a gift.

[boobaa]

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Haha.

[adam250]

Yeah a blowjob is my greatest desire. I enjoy that more than vaginal sex.

[Zatguy]

just a fast survey:
is every man's greatest desire to get a blowjob?

my bf "assured" me about that. he said, all men who havent got it yet, want it above all. after getting it, they may have other desires as well, but only after that because my boyfriend wants to get a blowjob from me really badly and makes up lame excuses for asking for one...
is that really so?

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