What College Taught Me

[Gribble]

How are those diverse skills of any value in your present career if you go seven years without actually using them?

That's what I don't get.

[Mish]

How are those diverse skills of any value in your present career if you go seven years without actually using them?

I can move up, I can move to different areas, I can get a pay rise, I can use my new skills to increase the efficiency of my department, I can become more effective in what I do by better communicating with other areas of the organisation


P.s. mba is 3 years not 7

[Petit Papillon]

Here Master is just 2 years long. 3 years Bachelor,2 years Master and 2 years Doctorate

[Gribble]

Before you can pursue your MBA you've got to spend four years or so as an undergrad. So 6-7 years total in college. That's what I meant.

Mish, education is swell and it will benefit you. But all things being equal, if you spent seven years studying and someone else spent seven years starting from the very bottom, working his way up, bouncing around from position to position, picking up all that stuff you've listed first hand, taking a few focused courses on the side, he's going to be a far stronger employee in the end.

And it just makes sense financially. You don't have to pay a competitive wage to a college graduate who still needs to be trained from the ground up. You take some kid who's happy to accept minimum wage, give him a job and spare him the tens of thousands a college education would waste. You have him filing mail for a few months. If he's diligent and smart you let him intern with your sales department. If he shows promise, you promote him. Let him earn some commission. You're still hardly paying the kid--but you're allowing him to wrack up valuable experience. Over time he either hits a ceiling and makes exactly what he deserves or you've groomed yourself a model employee who is well-rounded and experienced.

Fine. Yours is a special situation. You've got a job now and you've got a nice big chunk of education under your belt all ready. Though you're going to find that if you do get a promotion you've got a lot of learning to do in those other areas.

[RdHrshyKss]

Most of the managers in my line of work are female, and I don't find this to be true at all.

difference in fields i guess? like i said, this is only my experience, i'm not trying to stereotype. i just think that getting trained in management will get rid of a lot of the stereotypic behavior that males and females elicit naturally.

[RdHrshyKss]

How are those diverse skills of any value in your present career if you go seven years without actually using them?

That's what I don't get.

i mentioned before, MOST people who go for their MBA are already working. they learn and apply what they learn through their work.

[vashti]

difference in fields i guess? like i said, this is only my experience, i'm not trying to stereotype. i just think that getting trained in management will get rid of a lot of the stereotypic behavior that males and females elicit naturally.

None of the bosses in my line of work go through management training... they are promoted based on experience. But it's true (in my experience) that hospital staff are exceptional.

[RdHrshyKss]

None of the bosses in my line of work go through management training... they are promoted based on experience. But it's true (in my experience) that hospital staff are exceptional.

i would think so too, the medical field is a completely different ballgame. i work in non-profit...an office environment. i love what i do, but seriously, the managers here are horrible. i think the bigger issue is that i work in academia (rutgers' non-profit). people here would be eaten alive if they left and tried working corporate. in academia, there is always tomorrow...in the corporate world, there is no tomorrow, it's now or never. i think my issue is that i naturally want to take charge and get things done, be efficient. here you have to go through a million hula hoops before you're listened to. i can't even do my job without having to consult with a million different higher ups (all women) who feel this incessant need to control every little detail. let me do my damn job!!!

[Incognito]

Yeh, that's right. The planet is full of walking genuises who can do accounting, economics, finance, marketing, statistics, give legal advice while at the same time following the best practices of human resource management all of the top of their head and without even studying.

That makes perfect sense.

Hmmm, that isn't at all what I meant. I actually was asking while giving my obviously wrong assumption about what it was. The way everyone was going on about it I figured that the meat of it was interpersonal skills. By the way I see some comments about someone calling someone else a cunt. Who said it and who was it directed at?

[Petit Papillon]

Backuporgetsomethinglike this called Mishanya a cunt and at the same he said that Misha was overreacting . His post was deleted.

[BackUpOrGetStng]

I actually was asking while giving my obviously wrong assumption about what it was.

Almost verbatim what I said to her. The epithet I directed at her afterward, was to highlight her overreaction with one of my own. It resulted exactly as I knew it would with a delete, infraction, and scolding, as power tripping women are very predictable..which is why women don't belong in positions of management or power in the first place.




*Tongue firmly planted in cheek, ladies*

[RdHrshyKss]

I actually was asking while giving my obviously wrong assumption about what it was.

Almost verbatim what I said to her. The epithet I directed at her afterward, was to highlight her overreaction with one of my own. It resulted exactly as I knew it would with a delete, infraction, and scolding, as power tripping women are very predictable..which is why women don't belong in positions of management or power in the first place.




*Tongue firmly planted in cheek, ladies*

now come on backuporgetstng...you know that making generalizations like that is just silly. not ALL women are like that...and given the fact that men have been so adamant about making it hard for women to get into these types of roles in the first place, you can only really blame men for this. i don't really agree with stereotypes, they do nothing but hold people back.

[Incognito]

I actually was asking while giving my obviously wrong assumption about what it was.

Almost verbatim what I said to her. The epithet I directed at her afterward, was to highlight her overreaction with one of my own. It resulted exactly as I knew it would with a delete, infraction, and scolding, as power tripping women are very predictable..which is why women don't belong in positions of management or power in the first place.

Am I missing something? Mishanya is a dude as far as I know.

[BackUpOrGetStng]

RdHrshyKss, I'm just having fun with you gals. Didn't you see the bottom where I said, tongue firmly planted in cheek? It means I was joking. I have no problem with women being in positions of authority, and I think they're equally stupid and irresponsible as men are.

[RdHrshyKss]

RdHrshyKss, I'm just having fun with you gals. Didn't you see the bottom where I said, tongue firmly planted in cheek? It means I was joking. I have no problem with women being in positions of authority, and I think they're equally stupid and irresponsible as men are.

lol, agreed