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    Quote Originally Posted by qwertz View Post
    Martin Luther King Jnr
    Quote has gone viral, but no, only part of it is by King, rest by some poetry student mucking about on facebook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vashti View Post
    I don't think some of you realize: this was never about stopping terrorism. This was solely for revenge. No one in their right mind thinks terrorism will end now.
    ^this.

    Frankly, any president who'd sit around and do nothing post-9/11 would be instantly doomed in the next election, that's how quickly the populace will judge, and 'quick decisive action' to get a good image proved to be a swamp war with sketchy agendas and poor intel. Nice one...

    And as for revenge, the consequences of terrorist attacks are still laughable compared to the war-related losses of civilian lives in that region, so if anyone will be after revenge it'll be them, and can't blame 'em.

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    People keep saying that it "isn't the end", but I put some optimism in the thought that this will hinder Al Qaeda to some measure. Bin Laden will have his successors, but their morale will be deeply entrenched by the loss of their leader, and they will be confused by the humane manner in which his burial. Maybe that's not enough to put an end to their religious conviction, but it's still an effort, and persistent effort will eventually put an end to all this.

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    The point is we shouldn't celebrate someone else's death if we weren't happy about them celebrating the death of our people. And it just farther confirms the fact that US loves violence, i get that people are glad he's dead because of his involvements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bo View Post
    I think it's quite funny that ppl thought it was so effed up when the middle eastern folks rejoiced in the tragedy of the twin towers yet here in the US we are celebrating bin laden's death, hypocrisy?

    I wouldn't say we are any safer, i bet they will retaliate, not now but later. Besides i can't imagine how much involvement bin laden has had when the area he was caught in had absolutely no internet or phone connection.
    Cheering the deaths of thousands of innocent people who were just trying to make a living is not the moral equivalent to cheering the death of a man who murdered thousands of innocent people just trying to make a living and would do so again. Sorry.

    The US needed this, with all the economy stuff and now 3 endless middle east wars going on . I haven't felt such a happy atmosphere from people in a long time.
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    The only thing that has changed is bin laden is dead now. One person died, yes its long overdue that he was caught/killed but in reality what does it change? Nothing. It will not stop the war and it certainly wont stop extremist terrorism, there will always be someone else. They knew this day would come.
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    Quote Originally Posted by qwertz View Post
    The only thing that has changed is bin laden is dead now. One person died, yes its long overdue that he was caught/killed but in reality what does it change? Nothing. It will not stop the war and it certainly wont stop extremist terrorism, there will always be someone else. They knew this day would come.
    I was actually to the point where I thought he was going to die of old age in a cave somewhere. I really believed someone could murder thousands of americans and get away with it scot-free, it was depressing to say the least. It changed my perceptions of the world and what america is able to accomplish when we put our mind to something.

    I know I'm not the only one that felt this way either.

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    I'm not cheering for any of this.....I think the whole world is f ucked up. As a Canadian, our concern is that our beer must be ice cold and the Canucks win the Stanley Cup.....now that's something to cheer about!

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    Quote Originally Posted by leoben View Post
    Cheering the deaths of thousands of innocent people who were just trying to make a living is not the moral equivalent to cheering the death of a man who murdered thousands of innocent people just trying to make a living and would do so again. Sorry.
    Agreed. And while I am not literally cheering about his death, I am certainly not crying, either.
    Relax... I'll need some information first. Just the basic facts - can you show me where it hurts?

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    Great news. Score: Modern Civilized Society: 1 Pre-Modern Lunatics From the 3rd Millenium BC: Zero

    The only downturn is that in process of fighting the bastards, we've become caved into corporatism at an unprecedented level and are in danger of losing our democratic principles. Hell of a price to pay, but the alternative would have been even worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vashti View Post
    Agreed. And while I am not literally cheering about his death, I am certainly not crying, either.
    Oh, why not cheer a bit? Rapid dogs must be put down. Evil is real and must be treated as such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vashti View Post
    Agreed. And while I am not literally cheering about his death, I am certainly not crying, either.
    I'm sure you would be cheering if you were directly affected by the losses of terrorism and war. But you aren't, as far as I know... well, besides gas prices and so forth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAM View Post
    Oh, why not cheer a bit? Rapid dogs must be put down. Evil is real and must be treated as such.
    Because his death provides some with a chance to ride out of the masses on their moral high horse, noses in the air, quoting MLKJ, shunning the rest of us cannibals. I think this attitude deserves a fair amount of criticism, because it suggests the verbs 'cheer' and 'celebrate' as exaggerations of delight. Osama Bin Laden's conviction hadn't departed widely from Nazi ideology, apart from historical context. And are we glad Hitler is dead? Most certainly. Where is the consistency? Exactly, there is none; people just don't want to admit they're glad he's dead because it seems unsophisticated. What a selfish way to respond, eh.
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    Gas prices are largely a function of an historically weak US dollar and China's demand--a tremendous rate of increase. Our consumption is actually down a bit off of its peak around 22 million bbl/day. Petroleum markets are driven by international demand, despite the fact that domestic production is on the rise thanks to shale oil extraction methods and increases in natural gas production. Yeah, it looks likes civilisation as we know might last for another century or more before crisis again raises its ugly head. Neat, huh?

    OBL didn't have much of a lasting effect on petro prices. Turns out are real enemies are Democratics in Congress. LOL Not a surprise. The Democrats have been terrorizing the US for over a century. Jackson wiped out Native Americans; Slaverly--Supported by Democrats (Republicans were abolitionists); Segregation in the South (again, Democrats), the KKK (yes, Democrats). In the latter case, we didn't wipe out the KKK...instead we elected two of them to Congress (Thurmond and Byrd) and put one of them on the Supreme Court in the mid-20th century (Hugo Black).

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    Did I mention the Civil War? Yes, Democrats in the South. Isn't history inconvienent, Nancy? Of course the current crop would convince that they are different...my examples are the old days. A-huh. That would be like talking about the "New Nazi Party"--a more cultured crowd, softer, kinder, gentler...would you believe it? I wouldn't.

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