Where I am Now

[alice]

but you know why no one listens to you and you call yourself Shhhh, because no one wants to hear what you have to say.

i love to hear what she's got to say.

see over time people who know you realize that you never say anything really meaningful. It is because you must be very shallow. You see you never have valid points. You only agree or disagree with others. Your sad.

bullshit! maybe you don't get her points. i do.

[Rosebud]

On the contrary Hugo, I have picked apart your posts several times as to how you are wrong, and have even tried giving you another side to look at. But all you want to do is not listen to what any women have to say at all. And you jump on us saying we are wrong for not listening to you. And when you do, you rip them apart saying we think as though we are "high and Mighty" when if you were open minded enough you would look at a different aspect of things and actually realize not all women are like the ones you describe.

When someone disagrees with you and says how what you said can have a different conclusion you jump on the poster and attack them, instead of just disagreeing with what they say. The reason you get hostility from us is because in majority of your posts you bash woman in how they think and say something about one of us on LF as being stupid or lesser than you!

Why should I have to put you on my ignore list? Can't you just keep your comments about female regulars to yourself?

All this makes me laugh, especially if you think putting up a post like that is going to make shh get upset!!! ROFL, seriously I haven't had that good of a laugh in awhile.

Hey Vashti, Want to go survivor style??

[MastaPDiddy]

lol...keep this going its certainly taking m mind off of the ex. lol

and making me genuinly laugh for the first time...

[Hugo Pickle]

I’ll admit that my posts concerning a few of you females has not been kind or soft handed in any way. And yes, you do have a point that I have not just agreed to disagree with many of you. That is something that I will work on.

However, I have not given any more crap to anyone than I have received. I have also saved all us a lot of trouble by not commenting on many of the posts that you have made. Instead you women constantly wait with baited breath on any post that I make only flatly disagree with them. Fine, I let it go most of the time. But, you see, it isn’t about me. I know that most of the time you are disagreeing with me personally not what I say. But that does no good to the poster who is seeking advice.

So I will agree to simply disagree with you, but whenever you tell me that I am wrong, I am not going to let it slide. I will call you on it. I will tell you to state how and why you disagree with what I say, instead of simply making childish open ended comments that I am simply “wrong.” I didn’t do this in the past, but the poster seeking advice needs to understand things. If you think that I am wrong, fine, I will not argue anymore about that. But you better be specific about why you think I am wrong. Because it does no justice or help to anyone if you don’t.

So Shhhh, you say I am wrong in my theology. Well how. Don’t pull that cop out crap. You say I’m wrong, state why. Otherwise your just proving me right in that you just constantly disagree with me for no reason because you are childish, insecure and petty.

Prove me wrong sweet heart.

[shh!]

::sigh:: Must I always prove myself right?

The first lie told in the bible was not told by Sarah, but by Cain after killing his brother Abel.

I say your theology is simplistic because it is. It is also misogynistic.

Another interpretation of the story of the garden might go as follows: Before eating the fruit from the Tree of Knowledge, Adam and Eve represented naivety/innocence, the eating of the fruit represented the acquisition of wisdom. God - the loving parent - wishes for "his" children to remain infantile and naive (as all parents do), and so forbids them from gaining wisdom (growing up), threatening death if they are disobedient. (Of course, this is BS, since Adam and Eve didn't die after eating the fruit, just as many parents threaten punishments they never intend to follow through with.) Naturally, Eve eats of the fruit first, because she is female, and females mature/gain wisdom more rapidly than males. After gaining wisdom, she turns around and sees that Adam is still a child and offers him the opportunity to wisen up. God casting the pair out of the garden is an analogy for parents sending their young adult children out into the world to make a life for themselves.

That bit of theology was authored by my 12 year old, who wisely asks if God didn't want Adam and Eve to eat the fruit, why would God plant the tree right in the middle of the garden and draw attention to it?

Although your version of theology would probably argue that innocence was the preferable state of human-beingness (ignorance is bliss), I would point out that in the real world, being innocent can be dangerous. Consider those afflicted with mental retardation, They are the epitome of innocence, and they need to be protected from the world.

By the way, I have read many other Garden interpretations that were also more clever than yours. Don't even get me started on Abraham and Sarah.

And I really wish I had seen your response that was edited out by the loveadmin. I could've used a good laugh.

And don't call me sweetheart. It is condescending when coming from a misogynist.

[Bluevetteracer]

Hugo, this board is only big enough for one of us to pick on SHHH or Vashti (COMMY).

But slapping her makes no point. Argue your point in the arena of ideas or leave her alone.

Did I mention that I am a pilot, and I would hate to do sonic testing over your house

[shh!]

Like the new signature, bluevette.
:-)

[Bluevetteracer]

Like the new signature, bluevette.
:-)

Hey, just for you.

[Hugo Pickle]

You are right about Cain being the first liar. Good job, but that does not relate at all to the statements that I made that you said you disagreed with.

Threatening death if they are disobedient. (Of course, this is BS, since Adam and Eve didn't die after eating the fruit, just as many parents threaten punishments they never intend to follow through with

Yes, they did die after eating the fruit. In the garden they were guaranteed life. By eating the fruit they were banished out of the garden and eventually died. God does not lie. When he said they would surely die, that’s exactly what he meant and that’s exactly what happened. It just didn’t happen instantly.

Naturally, Eve eats of the fruit first, because she is female, and females mature/gain wisdom more rapidly than males. After gaining wisdom, she turns around and sees that Adam is still a child and offers him the opportunity to wisen up. God casting the pair out of the garden is an analogy for parents sending their young adult children out into the world to make a life for themselves

Firstly wisdom was gained from the tree so how do you explain that she simply matured faster because she was a woman and simply aquired wisdom. maturity is not related to wisdom.

But still, that's all fine and dandy. How does that back up your statement that I an “wrong’? Your analogy does not have any bearing on the post that I made or the references I made to Adam and Eve, which is why you will not get started on Abraham. Hell, you still haven’t said how you think I am wrong in my theology as it relates to the advice that I gave Masta. Your response to back up your claim that I am wrong is completely off topic.

This is what i said to him that you said was wrong

The first person to lie to gods face was Abraham’s wife Sarah.

Does this surprise you? It did me. God did not smite her either. Why? I think it is because it is in her nature to do this so much that it was not calculated but just like a reflex. (Read the story and you will understand) The point of it is not to be surprised and upset when women lie like Sarah did. If God did not get upset about it, why should we? He definitely called her on it though.

You should never give your heart to a woman without evaluating her first.

I can't remember if it was Abraham’s son or his son after that who sent a servant to the well to find a wife for his son. The instructions for finding a wife had nothing to do with beauty or sex appeal. Instead, all the instructions for finding a wife were was to choose the girl who helps you to water the camels. Why? Because it is what women do that is important and tells you who they are, not what they look like. The father knew that he wanted his son to have a caring wife above all else. Learn from this.

Women will often try to get you to do things that either your instincts or plain logic will tell you that you should not do.

The first story in the bible tells you that one. Adam and Eve were both told what not to do, but it was Eve who broke down and ate the apple, then she pushed Adam to do it too. Adam had no self control and let his damn feelings control his actions. He went against his better judgment. Women will often push you to do what you know you shouldn't, and every time you give in things will usually get worse. You have to be a man.

So why don’t you give it one more try because you said nothing to back up your original claim, you only started off on a new direction. I don't have time or patience to properly teach you how to debate. If you cannot stay on topic then you are not worth my time.

[shh!]

::Yawn:: You bore me.

[Hugo Pickle]

You bore me too sweat heart, like i said just ignore me, please

[Tone]

That bit of theology was authored by my 12 year old, who wisely asks if God didn't want Adam and Eve to eat the fruit, why would God plant the tree right in the middle of the garden and draw attention to it?

It wasn't so much about the fruit as it was a test of faith.

Sin draws attention, is temptating, and alluring - it's in those moments your faith is truly tested.

[Lloyd95]

Did I mention that I am a pilot, and I would hate to do sonic testing over your house

AND an Officer...

[Asip4u]

Masta, i'm sure it's been mentioned before but you have a lot of growing up to do. You seem so desperate it's not funny. Man up and when you get all your facts, make a decision you will stick to, otherwise no woman will take you seriously.

[Rosebud]

However, I have not given any more crap to anyone than I have received. I have also saved all us a lot of trouble by not commenting on many of the posts that you have made. Instead you women constantly wait with baited breath on any post that I make only flatly disagree with them. Fine, I let it go most of the time. But, you see, it isn’t about me. I know that most of the time you are disagreeing with me personally not what I say. But that does no good to the poster who is seeking advice.

So I will agree to simply disagree with you, but whenever you tell me that I am wrong, I am not going to let it slide. I will call you on it. I will tell you to state how and why you disagree with what I say, instead of simply making childish open ended comments that I am simply “wrong.” I didn’t do this in the past, but the poster seeking advice needs to understand things. If you think that I am wrong, fine, I will not argue anymore about that. But you better be specific about why you think I am wrong. Because it does no justice or help to anyone if you don’t.

The only reason you have recieved "crap" in the first place my dear is because in your posts you call us names or slam what we say instead of taking a different approach and proving us wrong which is what you want us to do. So if you would like us to do that, please practice what you preach.

I do not disagree with you personally as I do not know you, I go by what you say and the advice you give others. For the most part, I disagree when you try to explain a woman's point in the Poster's situation, which is normally when you say something against one of us female members.

I appreciate you trying to work on some these things, I really do.