Are we men actually capable of loving someone till the day we die?

[Cinnabella]

Then please tell me how it is possible for me to have instinct when I have deep consideration and high standard of morals as well as ethics?
You remember the "teacher?" Great! Because we all know only they know all the answers from their extensive/empirical studying, right?

Yeah but don't you agree that we have brain, to think n consider what is right or wrong, right????

I think anyone, get around, looking for sex??? Oh that's moral and consideration, I'm not talking those ones that wanted the same " horny" lol, but the ones that want a serious relationship or into the guy n wanted a long term, but sorry all he wanted was satisfy his instinct? It's just an excuse that the Bad Guys make to go and bang around without responsible, like eat a meal without pay.

There is one saying " if you go with a monk, you wear monk's clothes, if you go with ghost, you wear paper".

[Regnent]

But we don't need sex in order to survive and live.

Uhm, yes we do. It's a little thing that keeps our species as a whole alive and surviving.
We may die pretty quick as individuals without food or water, but individual survival is not our only goal. Intilectually, maybe, but there's something down deep in every person, that has the need to screw.
We happen to enjoy (usually) the act, so we tend to label it as a want. And although we may not -need- is 3-4 times a week, there is still a general drive to do it.

[the_robot]

Who made you a God? I've never heard of a human, self proclaimed God? Why choose loveforums.net
as your platform for mass enlightenment? Why would a God need food, oxygen and water?

I have already proclaimed myself a God on fb and a few other places . As for the other questions... because I want it to be so.

[Regnent]

Instinct, is just a stupid word for ppl who live without consideration and moral. I remember the teacher always said that the difference between animals and human is the Brain. It means animals only have instinct and trained reacting :-).

That stupid word is what allowed you to survive outside of your mothers womb, you know, breathing, suckling, learning to walk, and recognizing danger.

Intelligence, or self awareness, is -not- a superior thing to instinct. It has it's own flaws and weakness's, as well as it's own strengths. We still have instincts, and believe it or not, we're better off with them.
Consideration, morals, and ethics are just things we use to get along, and function in a society that has to balance needs vs wants. An extra complication we have to deal with because we're 'intelligent'.

We're still animals, no matter how smart we are.
We still have nearly all the instinctual things that animals have. We just react to them differently.

[xxazurexx]

Why are you taking everything I say out of context? lol!
I've not been to Britain...BUT I have met a few Brits during my travels (probably more than 100)
throughout my lifetime and on average they didn't care for their appearance/hygiene as a priority.

It doesn't mean ALL of them are, you should know better than that, I would think?
Am I not allowed to share my experiences to answer a question posed?
It's not definitive, it's not conclusive, it's just an observation. Did you have a bad day or something?

Then don't make it seem appear that you mean 'all'.

It's like me saying Americans are obsese and based upon the fact I've met a few fat ones, when I know they are all 'not'.

[xxazurexx]

What do you find attractive in a man: when all you've got to go on is:
his smile, his teeth, his clothes, his choice in accessories, his body type, facial features (eye color) and overall: physical attractiveness?

I'd say 'initially', the first thing I noticed was the 'overall' appearance - is he smartly dressed, the body type, height, colour of hair. The 'overall' look will catch my eye firstly. Has he got what I'd want 'overall'....?

On closer inspection and after overall appearance comes the face. Is he attractive? If he's not, then I look no further....

If the face does appeal, then I'd start to notice the more detailed things...

I don't notice the colour of eyes and because I wouldn't be straight up in his face and on a first meeting to notice. Eye colour is also of no importance to me and I'm not as choosy to have an eye colour preference.
Unless he has a really wide smile, teeth are probably one of the last things I'd also notice on a first sighting....unless his teeth are extremely good or they'd be bad and he has his mouth wide enough open for me to see them That is probably something I'd notice and if I spent time in his company, like a first date.. You wouldn't get a second date if your teeth were bad.

[xxazurexx]

Uhm, yes we do. It's a little thing that keeps our species as a whole alive and surviving.

I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT NEEDING SEX TO PROCREATE. I am not stupid....yes I KNOW we do. But even that is debatable and because women can have kids through artificial insemination...lmfao...we don't need you men anymore....other than as sperm donors!

I am saying that we wont DROP DEAD...if we don't have sex.

You maybe will.....but I WON'T.

FFS....take notice of WHAT I actually say...DUH!!!

We're still animals, no matter how smart we are.
We still have nearly all the instinctual things that animals have. We just react to them differently.

Debatable....some people are still animals.

Free and easy to shag who you want in the West....try being a Muslim. If the majority of these men can resist temptation, why can't you lot? Fortunately for you, so many Western women DISRESPECT themselves and lack morals....hence your 'easy' screw.

[Cinnabella]

That stupid word is what allowed you to survive outside of your mothers womb, you know, breathing, suckling, learning to walk, and recognizing danger.

Intelligence, or self awareness, is -not- a superior thing to instinct. It has it's own flaws and weakness's, as well as it's own strengths. We still have instincts, and believe it or not, we're better off with them.
Consideration, morals, and ethics are just things we use to get along, and function in a society that has to balance needs vs wants. An extra complication we have to deal with because we're 'intelligent'.

We're still animals, no matter how smart we are.
We still have nearly all the instinctual things that animals have. We just react to them differently.

Oh so I don't have that instinct a lot then huh? Coz I won't hang around looking for sex, what I find is love, I won't die without sex :-). I didn't die without sex lmao, hahaha so what am I? Arrrrr!

[Regnent]

I am saying that we wont DROP DEAD...if we don't have sex.

And you won't drop dead from not drinking anything for a day or two. That doesn't mean you only drink something every 2-3 days.

FFS....take notice of WHAT I actually say...DUH!!!

Same to you. I said individually, sex isn't a do or die thing, as a species, it is, and it's still one of our major drives.
Admitedly, much more in men, because we arn't stuck being 'infertile' for 9+ months at a time.
Women still have that drive, and while it isn't as sexual, it's still there.

Free and easy to shag who you want in the West....

I'm with my first and only actually, and have been for nearly 17 years. Nice generalization, would you like me to ignorantly generalize about Muslims?

try being a Muslim. If the majority of these men can resist temptation, why can't you lot? Fortunately for you, so many Western women DISRESPECT themselves and lack morals....hence your 'easy' screw.

I won't get into this one. I really don't have anything good to say. I'm sure it's mostly culture differences, and while you don't agree with how the west operates, I don't really agree with how some cultures over there operate.

[Regnent]

Oh so I don't have that instinct a lot then huh? Coz I won't hang around looking for sex, what I find is love, I won't die without sex :-). I didn't die without sex lmao, hahaha so what am I? Arrrrr!

We're all capable of tempering our behaviors according to society's standards, as well as our own. Still doesn't change the fact that most people, men and women, have a harder time being happy without a sex life.
Doesn't mean you need to screw everything you can, but the desire is still there. Many people will -wait- till they find someone before they stop trying to inhibit their more primitive desires, but choosing not to doesn't make someone less human. It's a choice they make, and while we can argue their morals, the fact remains we're all still only animals.

[xxazurexx]

And you won't drop dead from not drinking anything for a day or two. That doesn't mean you only drink something every 2-3 days.

WTF...the discussion is about SEX, not water.

If I go without water I will DIE eventually.

If I go without food, I will DIE eventually.

If I go without SEX, I won't die eventually.

Now do you see what I'm saying???

Women still have that drive, and while it isn't as sexual, it's still there.

Nobody was disputing that.....see ABOVE^^^^

SHEEEEEESH!!

Nice generalization, would you like me to ignorantly generalize about Muslims?

What generalization? I said it was 'free and easy' to shag in the West and meant as compared to other parts of the world which is why I'd mentioned Muslims, as in referring to the Middle East. Where is the generalization in that?? Of course these people RESPECT themselves more - the women more so!! Some of you guys would have a hard time adjusting over there, is what I was saying...Yet another who reads what they want to read...*sighs and yawwwns*

Spout what rubbish you like? Are you assuming I'm one like??..lmfao

Given the choice over one of you lot, I'd rather have one of them anyday of the week.

[SelflessnHumble]

I have already proclaimed myself a God on fb and a few other places . As for the other questions... because I want it to be so.

Oh, O.k.

[Anturo]

Are we men actually capable of loving someone till the day we die?

Short answer: Yes.

However at 22 you are probably a few years short of being mentally perpared to do so.

At 22 I was only thinking about 3 things. Food, Sex and Sports. Beyond that I could careless about a relationship that lasted as long as I was getting laid I was good. The moment she stopped putting out so that she could "control" me and mould me I was on to the next one. I would crush them out and move on.

Then one day my wife came along. She wasnt what society would call a "dime" She was average and somewhat below average in terms of "looks" compared to the women I was normally pulling.

However there was something different about her something that made me want to change for me to be a better person. She was always sweet to me even if I was being an ass. I changed not for her but because of her. She showed me that there was more to life than what I was currently living and now together we are growing with one another each and everyday. That was 5 and a half years ago. Had you asked me before that my answer would have been different. But yes I do think you can love someone until you or they die. But you must be ready for them, and them for you.

[SelflessnHumble]

Yeah but don't you agree that we have brain, to think n consider what is right or wrong, right????

Of course we have a brain, to think and consider what is right/wrong....but the fact is: what is right for me, may be wrong for you: see that?
My instincts sniff out weakness...My instincts tell me when someone lies to me...While learning what is right or wrong: can derive from consideration...

Instinct is innate: some have it: some don't...You shouldn't judge (as you had done) stating what you did considering (lol) that instinct-intuition is all based
on what a person knows either by learned experience OR just has innate knowledge of a person's actions.

I think anyone, get around, looking for sex??? Oh that's moral and consideration, I'm not talking those ones that wanted the same " horny" lol, but the ones that want a serious relationship or into the guy n wanted a long term, but sorry all he wanted was satisfy his instinct?

You are wrong here to assume that a person's instinct cannot include wanting sex.
If you haven't experienced this: you cannot KNOW this.

It's just an excuse that the Bad Guys make to go and bang around without responsible, like eat a meal without pay.

This is where you are wrong again...

It is illegal to go to a restaurant or place of business: to eat their food that cost them money: without paying for it.
Meaning They cook my food and I present it: AND I pay for it: these aren't bonded together: they are separate transactions.

Now...If I have sex with you: without loving you, and after doing you I just up and leave?

It was perfectly legal for me to use you for sex...I cannot get arrested for it, you cannot put me in jail, you cannot sue me for doing this.
Is it ethically and morally wrong to do so? This is dependent on the person's perception. I feel it is wrong.
I would say: you made a piss poor judgment call in choosing this guy to have sex with: why?
-You failed to objectively and reasonably get to know this man...This puts the burden on YOU! Not him!

[Anturo]

It was perfectly legal for me to use you for sex...I cannot get arrested for it, you cannot put me in jail, you cannot sue me for doing this.

Yes but if you do such a thing to the wrong woman. They will sure try and in turn make your life a living hell for doing such a thing. (Personal Experience)

So doing such a thing is probably not advised to those who are reading this.