Being single 'worse than smoking'

[whaywardj]

Great. Now what are the kiddies supposed to think?

[misombra]

that dropping out is the cool thing to do.

jk.

[Late_vamp]

no , its just that if you screw up at some point , you can always pick yourself up and manage to get a good path in life . it doesnt mean that you dont fit in the school system because your a "defect" in theyr world that your completely lost ... see things that dont work for society are CALLED "defects, failure , mentally insane or criminal " but it doesnt mean that your "labeled" this that it truly means you ARE one , this is just the names that they give to ppl that society doesnt know what to do with them because they dont make their "society , corrupted political , robot world" work in their convenient way .

[misombra]

no , its just that if you screw up at some point , you can always pick yourself up and manage to get a good path in life . it doesnt mean that you dont fit in the school system because your a "defect" in theyr world that your completely lost ... see things that dont work for society are CALLED "defects, failure , mentally insane or criminal " but it doesnt mean that your "labeled" this that it truly means you ARE one , this is just the names that they give to ppl that society doesnt know what to do with them because they dont make their "society , corrupted political , robot world" work in their convenient way .

i agree.
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[whaywardj]

That was the case in my situation, LV. I dropped out of HS after my first year not because I was a misfit, but because the system just wasn't meeting my needs as a student. Though a series of fortunate circumstances, I found myself in college at 16, despite not having a HS diploma or a GED, and did swimmingly...so long as I applied myself. The different educating contexts made all the difference. There are times, though, I wish I'd stuck HS out so I wouldn't have to so often be teaching myself now what, in a better HS surrounding, I could've learned then. My assumption being that HS's of today couldn't possibly be worse than what I abandoned back then. I could be very wrong on that point.

[Late_vamp]

I have gone through HS and believe me , 80 % of the things they teach you there are pure useless garbage . have kind of experienced what my bro and sisters have had in their time in HS ( them being all around 10 to 13 y older than me )

we had the same books , can you believe that , the SAME books for 20 YEARS ... how can they teach you properly . HS is so over hyped . they empaphize on " on its SOOO important for the future " ... no its NOT . It was such a waste of time , 90 % of the time in HS i either slept in class/ goofed off with classmates AND teachers ( yes teachers) , or i just skipped class ( at least twice per week was mandatory for me ) ... and i always had grades about 60 to 80 % ... imagine i applied myself to it and actually would have done my homework and reserches ... i would have had 90 % and up all the time ...

they have dumb classes like sex ed for like 5 years ... who the heck needs to learn more about sex ed, one year is enough , then you have gym , running lapses of miles next to a damn cold lake . then PC classes , such waste of time , i knew so much in that class that i used to get 100 % by doing nothing and then the teacher would ask me something i would reply something completely killing the other classmates answers by far ... bahh , i was high and drunk 70 % of the time anyways . but now iv stopped . ummm , healthy .

[Mish]

see things that dont work for society are CALLED "defects, failure , mentally insane or criminal " but it doesnt mean that your "labeled" this that it truly means you ARE one , this is just the names that they give to ppl that society doesnt know what to do with them because they dont make their "society , corrupted political , robot world" work in their convenient way .

Yup, that's an anti-social way of looking at things.

I like comparing society to a human body instead of "corrupted political robots". In a healthy society there is a lot of potential and growth. That, which contributes to society's health decline in the form of growing suicide rates or social unrest is examined, evaluated and resolved (By direct or indirect means). Some of the things you listed above like growing rate of criminal intent, violent behaviour, insanity are forms of symptoms for major disorders, which need to be treated before they explode into something serious. For example a person who has caused grevious bodily harm with conscious malicious intent has every right to be "Labeled" as a criminal by authorities and isolated from the rest of soicety until the threat from this individual to others is no longer present.

But i agree with comments in regards of the public education system such in High Schools. I think it needs some major reforms...

[misombra]

Yup, that's an anti-social way of looking at things.

I like comparing society to a human body instead of "corrupted political robots". In a healthy society there is a lot of potential and growth. That, which contributes to society's health decline in the form of growing suicide rates or social unrest is examined, evaluated and resolved (By direct or indirect means). Some of the things you listed above like growing rate of criminal intent, violent behaviour, insanity are forms of symptoms for major disorders, which need to be treated before they explode into something serious. For example a person who has caused grevious bodily harm with conscious malicious intent has every right to be "Labeled" as a criminal by authorities and isolated from the rest of soicety until the threat from this individual to others is no longer present.

yes but we don't penalize a heart when it stops beating. we find more ways for it to work. and yes it's labeled, a coronary by-pass, helping it to function again properly. we don't just take it out and call it a bad heart, right? interesting analogy.

[Mish]

yes but we don't penalize a heart when it stops beating. we find more ways for it to work. and yes it's labeled, a coronary by-pass, helping it to function again properly. we don't just take it out and call it a bad heart, right? interesting analogy.

I think something like a heart failure should be compared to a Nuclear Holocoust, which anihilates all of social governance, recovery, resource, profit and spiritual facillities. It is possible to recover, but greater are the chances to be occupied and colonized by hostile forces and be completely absorbed (What happened to the Native Americans suddenly comes to mind).

I would compare a homicidal criminal more to a cancer cell, which only causes harm and serves no purposes in your body...

[Only-virgins]

I think the only people who will have a shorter life span are the people who actually believe in this crap. Their own stupidity will cave in on them and kill them. Don't even need to bring up all those fallacies with percentage statistics. Its obvious most are bogus. How many people did they ask and who? Did they ask all 6 billion people on their life style? Are married man more likely to fall down the stairs at night then single man? offcourse! they have to visit their crying baby....now who the hell would want to fall down the stairs? not me thats for sure.

Actually, OV, I was thinking of you being a perfect example of what happens to a pack animal when it's isolated from its pack. Experiencing delusions of grandeur is an early symptom of more debilitating effects yet to come. What makes you think human consciousness is any "higher" than that of any other animal species? I'd hazard that for every higher quality you might attribute to humans, I or someone else would be able to point to another animal which has, arguably, that same quality.

LoL offcourse we have identical qualities. I am nothing but a monkey..the difference is I have a much greater sense of awarness of my serrounding and I can use logic. I have the ability to say " I am alone and fine"... while the monkies instincts just tell him that he will be screwed on his own. Free thought I meant. Philosophy. I know nothing matters and I will be perfectly healthy on my own. I dont need anyone to confide in...if I did have someone like that I still wouldnt.

[Mish]

Don't even need to bring up all those fallacies with percentage statistics. Its obvious most are bogus.

Ofcourse. All bogus! Every single one of them!!! Whats a number but some form of logical construct created by a human mind. How can anyone know anything without investigating every single atom in the universe? Is our existence interpretation of electrical signals by our brain, then whose to say we even exist?

Science, statistics, medical stuff, who needs all that when you can just be ignorant and pretend nothing happens outside of your own head Yeh, just live carefree and ignore everything... Ignorance is bliss! Right OV?

[whaywardj]

OV finally got on your nerves did he, Mishanya? Seems to be his present raison d'etre. Appears as if he's against everything, but for nothing.

[Tone]

OV finally got on your nerves did he, Mishanya? Seems to be his present raison d'etre. Appears as if he's against everything, but for nothing.

LoL Frenchy...

[Mish]

OV finally got on your nerves did he, Mishanya? Seems to be his present raison d'etre. Appears as if he's against everything, but for nothing.

Good point Hayward. I think it's very sad when people start using a subject such as philosophy which is a discipline comprising logic, ethics, aesthetics, metaphysics, as well as indepth insight into human nature, to justify their own ignorance. If "nothing is certain, why be certain in anything?" Or more importantly, "why should I listen to you and your research when my mind tells me I am right 100% of the time?"

It's okay if someone disagrees with reaserch based on objective principles, with a proven hypothesis backed up by analyses and statistical data. But the one who disagrees should provide their own statistics and research to counter that argument or at least links to where these can be found. Simply saying "I disagree and therefore I am" is not enough to prove or disprove anything.

I don't take these findings to heart. I know a 9% risk is a small risk and 91% of people will probably be unaffected. However, I think people would have had a much different reaction had the reaserach goal been risk of death due to lung cancer in chain smokers. I wonder, would anyone disagree if the post stated that 9% of chain smokers die of lung cancer compared to non chain smokers, even if the research to arrive to that conclusion would have been followed using the same methodology?

But once again, it's good to see a diversiry of opinion

[Junket]

Simply saying "I disagree and therefore I am" is not enough to prove or disprove anything.

Who said to disagree is to disprove?