Violent Crime: Who or what is to blame?

[anachronistic]

I would rather have a guy come at me with a katana than a gun.

Banning knives, swords, etc. is ridiculous. Anything can be used as a melee weapon. A credit card snapped in half could be used to slit a throat. Perhaps European countries ought to ban them. What about shoelaces? Someone might use one to garrote.

i would rather be shot than stabbed.

and i'd rather have a gun than a katana if a guy came at me with a katana.

[Converse]

No. I am comparing past to past.

You are serriously ****ed up. :/

[anachronistic]

Stronger gun control laws? Of course.

Should we ban firearms? I don't know about an all-out ban, but MUCH stricter control on rifles. I don't think the average citizen should have firearms. There should be a better reason than "I want one" in order to be granted a license. And yes, ban all handguns except for law enforcement.

Whose fault? Well, sometimes the parents contribute, but generally I think that these people are simply f*cked up in the head.

Are they desensitized to violence because of movies/video games/music? Probably, but not to the point that would make them do this. This incident was a result of mental illness, IMO.

so would you feel better if the victims of vt were pushed out windows instead?

[Converse]

Apprently the best way to die is drowning because the chemicals in your brain while drowning make you feel high or something.

[Tiay]

really? I think carbon monoxide would be a good way to go too.

I'd rather be shot than sliced, too. Katana's are scary as hell- a friend of a friend has a real one.. you'd cut your finger off just touching the blade.

[Converse]

Yeah I heard Carbon Monoxide isn't so bad, apprently you just feel sick and fall to sleep. Also apprently the way you can tell some-ones been poisoned by Carbon Monoxide is to look at the persons blood in an autposy as it's meant to turn a cherry colour because it does something to the oxygen in the blood streem.

Yeah I'm full of useless information.

[LoveTwist]

really? I think carbon monoxide would be a good way to go too.

I'd rather be shot than sliced, too. Katana's are scary as hell- a friend of a friend has a real one.. you'd cut your finger off just touching the blade.

Yeah carbon monoxide would probably be a relatively pleasant way to die... if there is such a thing as a pleasant way to die.. Over dosing on pain killers or dying in your sleep are probably better ways to go too. Or when your under a general anaesthetic, you just dont wake up again.

Also from what I've read, Katanas should have much stricter licensing laws too... anything that deadly. In the UK you're not allowed to even by a sharp kitchen knife until you're 16, though I admit thats crazy because you can just get a sharp knife from anywhere..

Though there are laws about carrying knives around too I think... But I know they’re extremely complicated. Think if you get caught in possession of a really sharp knife, especially if your caught wielding it around of anything I think you can be sent down for it.

Knives that are illegal for everyone in the UK include –

Flick knives - Switchblades or automatic knives - where the blade is hidden inside the handle and shoots out when a button is pressed.

Butterfly knives - Where the blade is hidden inside a handle that splits in two around it, like wings. The handles swing around the blade to open or close it.

Disguised knives - Where the blade is hidden inside something like a belt buckle or a fake mobile phone.

[Tiay]

Over dosing on pain killers

I have no idea, but that sounds like it could also be pretty ugly, depending on the painkiller.

In the UK you're not allowed to even by a sharp kitchen knife until you're 16, though I admit thats crazy because you can just get a sharp knife from anywhere..

hah, I didn't know that. I dunno though, sharp knives aren't that abundant. I've found many homes don't have any properly sharp knives.

those are some good laws imo.

[LoveTwist]

I have no idea, but that sounds like it could also be pretty ugly, depending on the painkiller.

Yeah, you're right, would depend on the painkiller.... if you overdose on paracetamol and you don't take enough then the side effects can be really nasty... and if you don't happen to die from it, then you're liekly to suffer sever illness afterwards..

so yeah.. wouldn't really recommend it or anything. But with a high enough dose paracetamol can put you into a coma pretty quickly, so that wouldn't be too bad. Although personally I wouldn't want to die that way. Going under general anaesthetic and not waking up would probably be the best of all those ways. I'd much rather live though!

[Junket]

whatever it is you have over there, it is not proper democracy anymore. Isn't a good old abolishment in order right about now?

"Proper democracy", in it's purest form does not exist on a large scale anywhere in the world.

Democracy is something to be aspired to, but will never be achieved.

In any case, the best description of the US government, is a democratic republic. This helps prevent "tyranny of the majority".

I will not deny that we are a violent culture.

[anachronistic]

Yeah carbon monoxide would probably be a relatively pleasant way to die... if there is such a thing as a pleasant way to die.. Over dosing on pain killers or dying in your sleep are probably better ways to go too. Or when your under a general anaesthetic, you just dont wake up again.

Also from what I've read, Katanas should have much stricter licensing laws too... anything that deadly. In the UK you're not allowed to even by a sharp kitchen knife until you're 16, though I admit thats crazy because you can just get a sharp knife from anywhere..

Though there are laws about carrying knives around too I think... But I know they’re extremely complicated. Think if you get caught in possession of a really sharp knife, especially if your caught wielding it around of anything I think you can be sent down for it.

Knives that are illegal for everyone in the UK include –

Flick knives - Switchblades or automatic knives - where the blade is hidden inside the handle and shoots out when a button is pressed.

Butterfly knives - Where the blade is hidden inside a handle that splits in two around it, like wings. The handles swing around the blade to open or close it.

Disguised knives - Where the blade is hidden inside something like a belt buckle or a fake mobile phone.

i personally like the disguised swords that are concealed in walking canes. those are for fancy rich pimps.

[Tiay]

"Proper democracy", in it's purest form does not exist on a large scale anywhere in the world.

yeah, that's a good point. the truest example imo is the direct democracy in Switzerland. Though, if memory serves, they're all in the army and all have firearms at home. And yes, there are like 300 deaths a year due to army guns.

[Gribble]

I don't want to get stabbed or shot. But at least I can defend myself from a knife.

[Chimeros0]

LOL!
Gribble knows Kung-Fu.

Why don't you teach us all how to expect the unexpectedness "stab" in the dark.
Perhaps with that info,less people would die from "Mug 'n Stabs" then actual bank robberies...

Almost forgot to mention - 1)People need to learn to use guns just like any other weapon.
- 2)I am from South Africa dammit.We have more school stabbings then anything else.
- 3)If someone wants you dead,they sure spend allot of time practicing it...
- 4)More blah blah blah...

[Gribble]

Why don't you teach us all how to expect the unexpectedness "stab" in the dark.

Avoidance. People who live in the city or in rough towns learn to be aware of their surroundings and how to avoid trouble. Simple as that. But sometimes bad shit happens no matter how hard you try to avoid it.

As someone who has lived around guns all his life I can tell you that no, they do not require much training. From close range killing a man is as simple as pointing and flexing a finger. Requires no training whatsoever. If you can load the gun and flick the safety off, you can kill. And all it takes to become a decent shot is a week or so of training. You won't be out-shooting marines, but you can sure as hell peg a stationary human-sized target from a good ways off.

You can run from a man with a knife. You can't run from a bullet.
You can fight off a man with a knife, even with your bare hands. You can't fight a man with a gun using just your fists.