touching.

[Lite]

oh yeah, it really takes one person to blame. talk about sexist remarks. i am so tired of males always blaming a woman every chance they get.

Out of respect to Misombra I'm not going to participate in this thread further lest you continue to push it to degenerate into another of your ignorance fueled flamewars.

[Indignant]

Out of respect to Misombra I'm not going to participate in this thread further lest you continue to push it to degenerate into another of your ignorance fueled flamewars.

how about you don't participate in any threads at all then?

[Everlovin]

at this point of the conversaion all i hear is blah blah blah

Right there with you babe.

Their just a group of people coming up with every intellectual out they can think of to justify their insecurities.

And that is a "culture" that I do not care to be a part of.

Lets leave this thread and allow them to continue being biggots and racists, since that is so stimulating to them.

[Lite]

Right there with you babe.

Their just a group of people coming up with every intellectual out they can think of to justify their insecurities.

And that is a "culture" that I do not care to be a part of.

Lets leave this thread and allow them to continue being biggots and racists, since that is so stimulating to them.

That would be "They're just a group of people..."

And how lovely of you to throw out the word bigots along with racists after she throws out sexist. No, actually we're not coming up with intellectual outs. Merely pointing out that integration of culture flows both ways. One cannot demand that your culture be respected if your unable to respect theirs in return.

But, then again we already know that you have a crush on Indignant and will suck up to her in any way you can so mostly your post is amusing

[starbuck]

People are racist because they don't want to be touched by almost-strangers? Oh yay, another "uptight Americans" thread.

Not everyone is obliged to enjoy random feel-ups from strangers. Just as people like or dislike different foods, people like or dislike different customs. It's mostly a matter of personal preference.

Remember when Bush gave that impromptu backrub to the German chancellor? Did she shake him off with disgust because she's German? My guess is because the touching was UNWANTED.

Live and let live people.

[ecojeanne]

i touch people all the time like that, i am a tactile person and it has sometimes given some guys the wrong impression but most i find like it and it makes communication easier for both men and women. when i was a senior; i did it all the time with my agents to give them reassurance. people like it.

outside of the workplace i find i flirt with both men and women, i don't fancy women but i copy their mannerisms and touch their arms unknown to myself. it's natural for some people i think.

[Lite]

people like it.

Except for those who don't, and are personally uncomfortable with the contact for whatever reason. Some people are just not comfortable with physical contact from people they are not close with.

[misombra]

wow. i didn't realize people had such strong feelings about this.

[ecojeanne]

lol jaysus i just read the whole of the thread, actually yes i agree with giga, lite and gribble simply coz if it's a new person it should be off limits touching somone and over time you can size up if they will be responsive otherwise one shouldn't go there. it takes time to subconciously know if one likes it or not. btw mis touching the neck was a bit forward imo.

for instance i have a very good male friend whom i have never touched, i can't explain why but i reckon coz i subconciously know that he wouldn't like or could take it as an indication of something it's not, it's about sizing people up first. body language i guess

[misombra]

i think it's true what they say that touching somebody increases their comfort level with you.

maybe that's why some people dislike it so much. because they're afraid of what's at the next level of closeness...

[ecojeanne]

i do think in some ways it's more acceptable for women to do it but for men they would have to be more careful coz it can come across as sleezy, maybe women are better at reading people emotionally, ultimately i don't really know but i find the only time it hasn't worked out is when i have misread friendship from a guy and them wanting more from me and it's very rare.

[IndiReloaded]

I think you should start carrying a katana sword at work, Miso. That will keep the casual 'touchers' away from you....at least, they get 2 chances to learn, lol.

[doppelgaenger]

Guys, is it okay if i touch myself?

[LadieNisha4u2nv]

Infatuation of the eyes turns people stupid huh. What does RACE have to do with not wanting to be touched by people in general? Do you think before you speak???

It's pretty boring now with the anti american discussions on here. I mean jeezus, dont you all have anything better to do? And Everlovin...the same dumb ass who comes here and brags about how he spends people's taxes on trips and such like the true attention whore he is is quick to put himself in any place to insult people? Indignant, I pray to God you have better taste than that.

[IndiReloaded]

Infatuation of the eyes turns people stupid huh. What does RACE have to do with not wanting to be touched by people in general?

We had a muslim visitor who refused to shake my hand when entering MY home even tho I was clearly his superior, both socially and professionally. He even added a rather inappropriate comment about my physical attractiveness as being the reason (he was married).

I found it to be in very bad taste, tho of course I didn't say so. When I am in a foreign country, I follow that society's conventions. I expect them to do the same in mine.

I suppose I could have made an issue of it, but his wife worked for my husband, so I decided there was no %age in pursuing the issue. But they never got an invitation to our home again.