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    Quote Originally Posted by Frasbee View Post
    People will be mad at us initially once we stop "helping" the rest of the world, but eventually they'd forget about hating us and hate someone else who steps up to the plate. We'd just have to give up our super power status. Not that that's saying much anymore.

    Just look at Sweden.
    We're sorry for focusing on aid and accepting refugees rather than lashing out with threats and sneaky side-deals.

    *snicker*
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    America also contributes heavily to alot of U.N. funds, so when you criticize their "help," you're sometimes criticizing the "help" of 192 other countries.
    Last edited by starbuck; 07-09-08 at 07:44 PM.
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    **** all the haters. vote for obama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by starbuck View Post
    America also contributes heavily to alot of U.N. funds, so when you criticize their "help," you're sometimes criticizing the "help" of 192 other countries.
    Makes you think of the good things that Bush actually achieved to help out in various parts of africa, yet how it completely over-shaded by Iraq.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starbuck View Post
    America also contributes heavily to alot of U.N. funds, so when you criticize their "help," you're sometimes criticizing the "help" of 192 other countries.
    America is actually in debt to the UN! unpaid bills! ye fantastic!
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    most countries are in debt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lipp View Post
    Makes you think of the good things that Bush actually achieved to help out in various parts of africa, yet how it completely over-shaded by Iraq.
    Yep, I'm no fan of Dubya, but I have to give the Bush administration some credit for the money we've spent on AIDS/HIV programs in developing nations. Yes, a small percentage of it was earmarked for teaching abstinence, but overall it's helped millions of people get life-saving medicine as well as testing and education.

    [URL="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/05/washington/05aids.html"]http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/05/washington/05aids.html[/URL]
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    with the world's largest economy the fact that it has a ridiculous bloated debt of $1.734 billion to an organisation that it asks to take on so much around the world.....from Darfur to Iraq to, most recently, Zimbabwe....... even with this funding, America is still dangerously underfunding peacekeeping missions in places like Chad, Kosovo, and the Democratic Republic of Congo, jeopardising the ability of these missions to be effective.
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    What's your main point, Eco? America = bad, everyone else = good?
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    Quote Originally Posted by starbuck View Post
    What's your main point, Eco? America = bad, everyone else = good?
    there is always a reason for America's so called 'help' thats my point
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    Quote Originally Posted by ecojeanne View Post
    with the world's largest economy the fact that it has a ridiculous bloated debt of $1.734 billion to an organisation that it asks to take on so much around the world.....from Darfur to Iraq to, most recently, Zimbabwe....... even with this funding, America is still dangerously underfunding peacekeeping missions in places like Chad, Kosovo, and the Democratic Republic of Congo, jeopardising the ability of these missions to be effective.
    I think we are OVERFUNDING the UN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ecojeanne View Post
    there is always a reason for America's so called 'help' thats my point
    So what? The same can be said for every country that intervenes in foreign affairs.
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    you just don't get it...infact you just don't want to get it
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    Quote Originally Posted by ecojeanne View Post
    you just don't get it...infact you just don't want to get it
    What don't I want to get? Please explain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by starbuck View Post
    What don't I want to get? Please explain.

    fact is America exploits other countries.....get it?.....anyway this point was in response to people claiming 'America helps'....what more do you want me to say.....a claim was made and i proved it wrong....over and out.
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