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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathu View Post
    The same amount I paid you to quit bitching about how clean the pool was-- now please can I have a dick in my ass!
    There, I fixed your post.
    Relax... I'll need some information first. Just the basic facts - can you show me where it hurts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aegis View Post
    Math isn't a useless major! Cryptography & artificial intelligence are nearly completely math...if you're smart enough, you can make some serious money in R&D in these fields, and systems analysis has substantial foundations in math, also a very lucrative field.
    I've done a lot of cryptography as well as A.I.

    Actually, I had a lab in computer science last week in which I had to do some A.I. -- It was pretty cool.

    (Cryptography, though, is a ****ing pain in the ass. I remember trying to decrypt MD5 hashes. )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathu View Post
    Gotcha! By the way, jurupa, in case I come off as offensive, keep in mind that just about everything I say is playful sarcasm.

    Access? Why not SQL?

    By the way, if you need help with your VB, just let me know. I have 4 years of experience with VB6 and .NET.
    SQL is not on the list, but from what I understand the Access class goes into Microsofts version of SQL. And as far as Visual Basic goes I already took it and passed it with an A. I was trying to be a smart ass, but its hard to do thru text.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jurupa View Post
    SQL is not on the list, but from what I understand the Access class goes into Microsofts version of SQL. And as far as Visual Basic goes I already took it and passed it with an A. I was trying to be a smart ass, but its hard to do thru text.
    Do you know ASM? I'm learning it now and I need some help. I disassembled the IE7 installer and I'm trying to recompile it without validation, but I'm stuck on a certain part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aegis View Post
    Math isn't a useless major! Cryptography & artificial intelligence are nearly completely math...if you're smart enough, you can make some serious money in R&D in these fields, and systems analysis has substantial foundations in math, also a very lucrative field.
    Math is a good minor with Computer Science as your major. You be much better off with math being a minor if your going to any area that requires math skills. Math as a major is stupid unless you want to teach it, or join a think tank.


    Zarathu - I never played with ASM, nor do I have the skill set for it. But I have played around with HEX code tho, I am not that good with it tho. But you may want to look at the hex code of the installer first before you decompile it, besides do a packet trace and look at the packet it sends out to make sure the os is legit. That would also help you as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jurupa View Post
    Zarathu - I never played with ASM, nor do I have the skill set for it. But I have played around with HEX code tho, I am not that good with it tho. But you may want to look at the hex code of the installer first before you decompile it, besides do a packet trace and look at the packet it sends out to make sure the os is legit. That would also help you as well.
    Hmm? What do you mean? Just looked at the hex isn't going to help me. Hex is good if I want to do this:

    Code:
    char shellcode[] =
    "\xeb\x2a\x5e\x89\x76\x08\xc6\x46\x07\x00\xc7\x46\x0c\x00\x00\x00"
    "\x00\xb8\x0b\x00\x00\x00\x89\xf3\x8d\x4e\x08\x8d\x56\x0c\xcd\x80"
    "\xb8\x01\x00\x00\x00\xbb\x00\x00\x00\x00\xcd\x80\xe8\xd1\xff\xff"
    "\xff\x2f\x62\x69\x6e\x2f\x73\x68\x00\x89\xec\x5d\xc3";
    
    int main() {
       int *ret;
    
       ret = (int *)&ret + 2;
       (*ret) = (int)shellcode;
       return (0);
    
    }
    ^ As it would then execute the shellcode (don't try it, the shellcode will only work on Linux).

    I disassembled it into the pure assembler. What can I do with the hex? I have a program that'll do it, just not sure what I can do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarathu View Post
    What can I do with the hex? I have a program that'll do it, just not sure what I can do.
    Hex programs allow you to see memory address locations, which is useful for finding PC game cheats, as well as working on ASM as your on the hardware level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jurupa
    Hex programs allow you to see memory address locations, which is useful for finding PC game cheats, as well as working on ASM as your on the hardware level.
    Hex programs allow you to see this:




    ^ And that does nothing for me. The same application, disassembled, however, gives this:

    Code:
                                       mov    edx, [ebp+0ch]
                                       lea    ecx, [ebp-24h]
                                       mov    [ebp-18h], esi
                                       mov    [ebp-1ch], esi
                                       mov    [ebp-24h], esi
                                       mov    [ebp-34h], esi
                                       mov    [ebp-44h], esi
                                       call   dword ptr [__vbaStrCopy]
                                       mov    ebx, [ebp+10h]
                                       mov    edi, dword ptr [__vbaLenBstr]
                                       mov    edx, [ebx]
                                       push   edx
                                       call   edi
                                       mov    esi, eax
                                       mov    eax, [ebp-24h]
                                       push   eax
                                       call   edi
                                       cmp    esi, eax
                                       jg     loc_00402494
                                       lea    edx, [ebp-44h]
                                       push   esi
                                       lea    eax, [ebp-34h]
                                       lea    ecx, [ebp-24h]
                                       push   edx
                                       push   eax
                                       mov    [ebp-3ch], ecx
                                       mov    dword ptr [ebp-44h], 4008h
                                       call   dword ptr [MSVBVM60::ord_619]
                                       lea    ecx, [ebp-34h]
                                       push   ecx
                                       call   dword ptr [__vbaStrVarMove]
                                       mov    edx, eax
                                       lea    ecx, [ebp-18h]
                                       call   dword ptr [__vbaStrMove]
                                       lea    ecx, [ebp-34h]
                                       call   dword ptr [__vbaFreeVar]
                                       mov    edx, [ebp-18h]
                                       mov    ecx, [ebp+14h]
                                       mov    eax, [ebx]
                                       push   edx
                                       mov    edx, [ecx]
                                       push   eax
                                       push   edx
                                       call   dword ptr [__vbaStrComp]
                                       neg    ax
                                       sbb    eax, eax
                                       inc    eax
                                       neg    eax
                                       mov    [ebp-1ch], eax
    [At least, that segment of the ASM. Why would I need memory addresses?]

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