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    The thing that amazes me about women in the US is how they're practically begging to have someone lead them.. I don't know what it is in the media that causes guys to be this way.. Maybe it's all the hormones they put in the milk these days.. But women practically hand men control.., and guys just hand it back.. Women beg for someone to lead them.., take them anywhere he wants to go.., do anything he wants to do.., and the guy ultimately leads her back to herself..

    I've tried to put some serious thought into why this might be.., and all I could reasonably come up with was a childhood association that's made with the dominant behavior of some jerk in high school.. The behavior is seen as negative.., and most men consider it bad and don't want to ever behave that way.. They find that asserting dominance over others is disrespectful.. They see it as a sign of respect towards others to completely submit.. By associating respect towards women with submissive behavior.., men are perpetually at the very best.., boys.., and at the very worst.., feminine..

    This leaves the only men with raw dominant masculine energy and sexual power.., to be insensitive @ssholes.. They're the only ones who didn't have that little issue in the first place! That's why they behaved that way in high school..

    The first thing I want you to do.., is take a metal pipe or a piece of wood.., and just break sh*t.. That's right.., beat that baby into the wall or something.. Keep hitting sh*t like it owes you money! Don't stop until you feel that anger and rage come out.. You have to feel that adrenaline rush.., to the point where you're certain.., without any doubt.., that you can beat the sh*t out of anyone that moment.. If that doesn't sound like you.., take up some activity that'll give you your daily fix.. Work out.., go swimming with sharks.., skydive with no parachute.., socialize and push yourself outside your comfort zone.., whatever you need to do to feel that way..

    The simplest way to assert dominance is within a given setting.. Within a gym.., the guy who can bench press 300lbs and has arms the size of your head is clearly dominant.. In a corporate setting.., he's easily in the submissive position and the guy responsible for the consistent growth of the company for the past 5 years is dominant.. But in a social setting.., those two might both be submissive! They might both assume the submissive role in front of a more socially dominant male.. That's usually the guy who is louder.., talks more.., is clearly confident and secure.., isn't trying hard but is still fun and interesting.. He's the guy that everybody likes and makes everyone feel good.. Other guys don't have a choice but to submit to his power.. They must concede.., and they do so by befriending him..

    That's the guy with a strong presence.., a deep masculine energy.., and overwhelming sexual power.. Notice.., this is a social setting.. It's not a beauty pageant or competition for who makes in on the Forbes 500 list.. He doesn't have to be the best looking or richest guy in the room to have his dominance felt.. An insecure person.., both male and female.., results to intimidation to assert dominance.. They employ the use of threats.., tests.., personal attacks.., and flaunting whatever it is they have to show.. But dominance that few question is that displayed by being a clearly overpowering force..

    When you speak to someone.., and open up the conversation.., keep that conversation alive.., escalate things and get into deeper conversation.., touch.., flirt.., tease.., and then end the night by being the one to exchange numbers.., you do a lot of things..

    The first thing you do is take away all the pressure of them having to do all that.. The second thing you do is clearly establish yourself as the person taking things forward.. You control the pace of the interaction.. You establish dominance.. And it's only natural that whoever feels your presence questions it.. Nobody likes to assume the submissive position.., it might be sexually favorable for some.., but it's always something that's rough on the ego..
    If you can't stop the Wind, then you can't stop the Storm.

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    The European style of asserting dominance between men and women takes the ego into consideration.. It has to be done in such a way that dominance and power is preserved.., that leadership is accepted and established.., but at the same time.., not in such an overpowering way that it's hard on the ego and seems controlling or disrespectful..

    Again.., can I make fun of someone yet still be flirting? Yes.., as long as I do so playfully.. Can I tease her without being cruel? Yes.., for as long as I limit it to just light brushing and touching.., just a hint.., and maybe a kiss.., but nothing more.. Can you treat her like your personal sex toy and submissive little dirty whore.., yet still respect her? Yes.., I can dominate and overpower her sexually in the bedroom.., and we can even switch to having tender and romantic sex afterwards.., but outside of sex.., there's no reason why you have to carry over that kind of dynamic over to the rest of the relationship.. For as long as you realize this control and dominance is just sexual role-playing.., then you can continue to have the same respect towards each other without exerting any kind of control and power over her.. You want to respect her.., and that's why you overpower her sexually.., because she's the woman and you're the man.. But as far as the relationship goes.., if you're looking for a pet.., get a dog.. If you're looking for a partner.., the most natural thing is for you to want to treat her with respect and as equals..



    To get a good idea of what I'm talking about.., go do a quick internet search to find some porn.. Make sure it's some up-to-date porn.. No outdated hairstyles or natural tits.. Once you've settled on a couple of films.., I want you to watch and study them.. That's right.., this is quite honestly the easiest assignment you've ever had in your life.. If you try and find a way out of this one.., there's no hope left.. I want you to ignore the women in the film.. That's right.., ignore the women.. I want you to focus on the guy.. Notice what he's doing.. Is it cheesy? It most likely is.., and it's good if you can pick up on that.. But look around until you see distinctively dominant masculine power.. Pounding with a passion.., grabbing her by her neck or hair.., lifting her up and throwing her around.., I want you to notice how she submits to his will.. These are the subtleties to porn you probably never bothered to notice.., but women who jerk off to porn notice them.., that's why they watch it..

    Yet we both know.., things don't start.., nor end.., with sex.. Sex is just a great example for that dominant/submissive relationship..

    If you don't have that kind of masculine energy or sexual power about you prior to sex.., then who is she to feel that you'll have that power during sex? Do you seriously believe that her intuition works? It's guesswork.., and unless she can feel your power.., unless she can feel just a little bit intimidated and overwhelmed.., a little bit nervous.., then you've failed to get that attraction started.. Just because you're a nice guy and don't have wild sexual fantasies or desires.., just because you don't exactly feel the urge to be dominant.., doesn't mean that she doesn't feel attraction when she feels herself getting into that submissive position and surrendering completely to your power.. That doesn't exactly take place with chocolates and flowers.. It doesn't exactly take place with "you're so pretty"..

    Honestly.., guys are like girls.. In fact.., you can think of girls.., like guys with tits and smaller d*cks.. I want you to find a girl who you think is cool and normal.., be friends with her.., and watch porn together.. Why are you all like "yeah okay" about it? I didn't ask you to have a threesome with her mother and sister.., I asked you to watch porn together.. Fine.., at least browse through the internet casually showing her what women you find attractive and let her show you want guys she finds attractive.., or better yet..., movie scenes she thinks are hot or sexy..

    In a way.., you're being familiarized and trained to be a male stripper of sorts.. To know what she finds sexy.., to know what makes her nervous.., what makes her heart race and stop at the same time.., what makes her feel paralyzed at your presence.. I never find it flattering anymore.., now it's just funny.. The thing I love to do with the guys is ask for a spare chair.., walk up slowly.., look at her in the eyes.., casually smile.., lean towards her and.., ask if anyone is sitting there.., when she says no.., instead of sit down.., I just take the chair and say thank you.. Yeah.., it's a bit cruel.., but that's why it's funny..

    Personally.., my biggest challenge on an interaction or date with someone is trying not to laugh.. I'm quite serious.. I try my best to not let go of full blown laughter.. Occasionally.., a smirk or smile slips here or there.. But what I find hilarious is how the other person feels inside and how well they're trying to cover it up.. Sure it's cute that she feels nervous and is trying her best not to show it.., but more than anything else.., it's just really really funny..

    Anyway.., to recap and wrap up:

    - Girls are guys with tits and small d*cks
    - You have to be able to enjoy the same kind of friendship with women you enjoy with men
    - You have to feel her and understand her
    - You have to be aware and certain of your intentions and motives
    - You have know why you appreciate her let her know it!
    - You have to become aware of your masculine energy.., dominant force and sexual power
    - Don't be the insecure reactive emotional tampon of a man
    - Be the strong yet sensitive type.., find the right balance for yourself
    - Be classy.., cultured.., interesting.., and sophisticated..
    - But casual.., chill.., cool.., relaxed.., fun.., and funny..

    (think hard about every single word that was just said!)

    Also.., take care of yourself!

    Minor things like dry lips.., nails that need to be clipped.., grooming issues.., body odor.., bad teeth.., are instant turn offs.. I really mean it.. It's disgusting.. It's like thinking about making love to a rotting corpse or bum.., not at all sexy..

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrkScorp View Post
    All women are whores
    Oh come on this is the biggest pile I've heard all week long. Just because your friend knows how to take advantage of stupid, slutty women does not make him any wise man... nor does it mean that all women are whores. I've met quite a few women who weren't whores at all; they had a head on their shoulders, they weren't primal like animals or anything.

    In fact, a little criticism of your friend, it's kind of ****ing stupid to sleep with all those women, because somewhere along the line, his responsibilities will catch up with him. I know we're living in an age where we have all kinds of contraception, protection and whatever, but it's not 100% effective. Especially considering that the slutty ones are the ones who get a new boyfriend every week. Not only that, but he might end up having to spend the rest of his life being responsible for one of those stupid women. That wouldn't be fun or successful would it?

    Let's hear what your friend knows about successful relationships and things like that. Of course he doesn't know how to have a successful relationship because he's too busy ****ing around with stupid women who really don't want anything to do with him anyway. Of course women expect relationships from sex, and any woman that has sex with a guy before having commitments is a ****ing moron. I mean, responsibilities people. Who was it that said "With power comes great responsibility"? Whoever said that was the real wise man. Sometimes people forget that the only real purpose of having sex is to impregnate a woman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doppelgaenger View Post
    Oh come on this is the biggest pile I've heard all week long. Just because your friend knows how to take advantage of stupid, slutty women does not make him any wise man... nor does it mean that all women are whores. I've met quite a few women who weren't whores at all; they had a head on their shoulders, they weren't primal like animals or anything.

    In fact, a little criticism of your friend, it's kind of ****ing stupid to sleep with all those women, because somewhere along the line, his responsibilities will catch up with him. I know we're living in an age where we have all kinds of contraception, protection and whatever, but it's not 100% effective. Especially considering that the slutty ones are the ones who get a new boyfriend every week. Not only that, but he might end up having to spend the rest of his life being responsible for one of those stupid women. That wouldn't be fun or successful would it?

    Let's hear what your friend knows about successful relationships and things like that. Of course he doesn't know how to have a successful relationship because he's too busy ****ing around with stupid women who really don't want anything to do with him anyway. Bad idea.
    Way to take something out of context..

    That's his theory.., and the entire post following it demonstrates how wrong he is..
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    I took it out of context if you criticized his thoughts after mentioning his theory?

    No I didn't read your posts. One long post I might read, but you just posted like a 7 page paper on here. Eventually I might get a chance to read all that, but in the meantime I just skimmed your post and looked for anything that might not be right, and that caught my eye.

    Haha, small example that ignorance is bliss

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    Quote Originally Posted by doppelgaenger View Post
    I took it out of context if you criticized his thoughts after mentioning his theory?

    No I didn't read your posts. One long post I might read, but you just posted like a 7 page paper on here. Eventually I might get a chance to read all that, but in the meantime I just skimmed your post and looked for anything that might not be right, and that caught my eye.
    That's fine..

    Though our views are in agreement.., so I suppose there's nothing of substance to really argue about.. Crap.., what will we do now?
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    Well if we are in agreement, all I can really say is that the OP should definitely read our posts!

    Great minds think alike.

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    all interesting points even if I did skim through that. All great in theory and hopes it enlightens Arrow but there's quite a few things that will probably get his hopes down.

    I do think they are valid points but no reason to assume anything about anyone because that is the very reason us H/H are slowly becoming extinct lol nothing left but D/D, D/H and a few H/D. Always about playing... nothing genuine.

    I think I also read something about getting a bit drunk then approach it. I would not take this advice. Let's not mistake being pissed with confidence let alone thinking straight. I mean you could be but what happens if she was too then pulls out by saying "sorry I was drunk"? I've done some stupid stuff while I was drunk and I sure felt confident.

    Arrow I do recommend you read through those pages and walls of text and you'll probably understand or take somethings from it. You're a H/H through and through and you feel hurt when things don't go your way even if it's a minor detail. You take things so readily at face value when they shouldn't be and you follow nice sweet traditions that are nothing but gone in this world now.

    Chocolates, love songs, love letters, whatever, they may still work but you need actions to back them up. Learn to invest that energy you used to decorate it into showing your affection as well.

    I've known friends for a long time and sometimes I would perhaps buy them a box of chocolate and give it my personal touch before sending it off to show them my appreciation. So you may want to hate people like me who have come in contact with the girl you like and perhaps she's just use to it.

    I still think gallantry exists and yes I am naive but watching yourself and becoming that H/D will turn you into the adult and learn to accept some of the things you find so hard to accept right now.

    oh and on a lighter note I'm going to quote the 40 year old virgin for you again "You're putting the pussy on the pedestal" yep for a funny movie it sure makes a lot of sense
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    Quote Originally Posted by doppelgaenger View Post
    Oh come on this is the biggest pile I've heard all week long. Just because your friend knows how to take advantage of stupid, slutty women does not make him any wise man... nor does it mean that all women are whores. I've met quite a few women who weren't whores at all; they had a head on their shoulders, they weren't primal like animals or anything.

    In fact, a little criticism of your friend, it's kind of ****ing stupid to sleep with all those women, because somewhere along the line, his responsibilities will catch up with him. I know we're living in an age where we have all kinds of contraception, protection and whatever, but it's not 100% effective. Especially considering that the slutty ones are the ones who get a new boyfriend every week. Not only that, but he might end up having to spend the rest of his life being responsible for one of those stupid women. That wouldn't be fun or successful would it?

    Let's hear what your friend knows about successful relationships and things like that. Of course he doesn't know how to have a successful relationship because he's too busy ****ing around with stupid women who really don't want anything to do with him anyway. Of course women expect relationships from sex, and any woman that has sex with a guy before having commitments is a ****ing moron. I mean, responsibilities people. Who was it that said "With power comes great responsibility"? Whoever said that was the real wise man. Sometimes people forget that the only real purpose of having sex is to impregnate a woman.
    Did you bother reading through the whole posts?

    Anyway, those were some of the finest pieces of writing I've ever had the pleasure of reading. Top stuff really. Since I'm going out more already I'm trying my best to rid myself of excessively idealistic thought because, well, it hasn't done me any good. We learn from past mistakes.

    But what's frustrating me ATM is that being that overly romantic dumbass (remember the movie "Bedazzled" where Brendan Fraser asks The Devil to turn him into a sensitive guy to win his crush but he blows it because he becomes TOO sensitive?) was what I knew to do and changing habits means I need a new set of tools to be able to break free from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrow View Post
    I need a new set of tools to be able to break free from it.
    I have exactly the tool you're looking for.., if you're willing to push past some boundaries..

    If you have some free time.., sit down and watch:

    [url]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110322/[/url]

    Throughout the movie.., I want you to get into the mindset of.., if not a woman.., at the very least.., a homosexual male..

    That's right.., hear me out for a second.. I want you to watch the movie this way.. Picking up on every little detail and subtlety in the film..

    Watch the two brothers torn apart.. Pay close attention to the brother who loved her.., but whom she didn't love.. Notice the complete absence of attraction.. Try and notice how he's missing any kind of sex appeal or power.. Then look at Brad Pitt.. I'm not talking about the way he looks.., although.., if you're truly in a female or homosexual mindset.., then you have to agree.., he's gorgeous.. But notice his strong character.., his endless depth and mystery.., his masculinity and that raw dominant sexual power.. It's very important that you rewind as many times as you need to.., until you start to fully appreciate that quality.. As you start to learn to become aware of and appreciate that quality.., you'll notice how much easier it is to understand exactly what it feels like when someone is "masculine" and has that raw dominant strong sexual power..

    You should walk away from that film feeling as if you want to wrestle and stab a bear in the fcukn' face..

    Also important to be aware of and notice.., is the interaction between the female supporting actress and Brad Pitt.. Notice how she tries to get him emotional.., how she tries to connect.., but there's nobody home.. When she doesn't find the emotion she's looking for.., she's only left with "hope"..

    It's quite honestly.., the perfect movie to demonstrate the two qualities.., strong and sensitive.., that are an important part of you..

    Up until now.., you've been spending most of your time and energy into focusing on how to be a great guy.., how to be a great boyfriend.., a great husband.., a great man.., caring.., sensitive.., considerate.., loving.. Which is all good.. It really really is.., and you don't have to delete all those things or toss any of them away.. The only thing you have to realize.., especially after watching that film.., is that while you've most certainly cultivated the sensitive aspect to your character.., you've completely ignored the "strong" aspect to your character.. You haven't invested enough time and energy to focus on understanding your own sexuality.., your dominant presence.., your strong composure.., your masculine sexual power.. You are without a doubt well-developed in the sensitivity department.., but you must admit that it's time to start cultivating your inner personal strength and start being aware of your masculine sexuality now..

    The moral of the film is.., don't fcukn' take on a grizzly bear with just a knife.., it will own you..

    But beyond that.., the most valuable thing to take away from it.., is how to be both brothers.. How to find the right balance for yourself.., and combine both qualities into the same character..

    Think of it this way.., how many girls have you met that are cute.., gorgeous even.., smart.., fun.., amazing people.., really nice.., sweet and genuine.., just full of life.., but they're not at all sexy.. In fact.., how many girl have you seen.., that you can say are really sexy or know how to be sexy? Considering the wealth of information that's available to women in developing their sexuality.., it's actually quite sad that ALL women aren't sexy.. But you know what sexy looks like in a woman.. You know how you feel when you see that quality in a woman.. You know how she makes you feel inside.. Paralyzed.., at awe.., intoxicated.., hypnotized.., thought stops.., all that's left is a keen sense of awareness and appreciation for her sexuality..

    Well.., think about that for a second.. Remember.., boys and girls are the same animal.. We're all people.. Some are white.., some are black.., some are male.., some are female.., but all people.., with similar thoughts and feelings.. You just happened to be male.., but if you were female.., and strait.., you know what that masculine sexual power looks like when you see it.. You know how it makes you feel inside.. You're quite aware of exactly how paralyzed you are.., not able to move or think.., dirty thoughts race through your mind.., hard to control yourself.., from him.., hard to not appreciate him.., forcing you to flirt between self-control and temptation.., your only wish.., that he'd want to push you through that fine line.., let go of all control.., and just surrender completely to his power.. Not to his box of chocolates.., flowers.., or profession of his undying love for her..
    If you can't stop the Wind, then you can't stop the Storm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrkScorp View Post
    I have exactly the tool you're looking for.., if you're willing to push past some boundaries..

    If you have some free time.., sit down and watch:

    [url]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110322/[/url]

    Throughout the movie.., I want you to get into the mindset of.., if not a woman.., at the very least.., a homosexual male..

    That's right.., hear me out for a second.. I want you to watch the movie this way.. Picking up on every little detail and subtlety in the film..

    Watch the two brothers torn apart.. Pay close attention to the brother who loved her.., but whom she didn't love.. Notice the complete absence of attraction.. Try and notice how he's missing any kind of sex appeal or power.. Then look at Brad Pitt.. I'm not talking about the way he looks.., although.., if you're truly in a female or homosexual mindset.., then you have to agree.., he's gorgeous.. But notice his strong character.., his endless depth and mystery.., his masculinity and that raw dominant sexual power.. It's very important that you rewind as many times as you need to.., until you start to fully appreciate that quality.. As you start to learn to become aware of and appreciate that quality.., you'll notice how much easier it is to understand exactly what it feels like when someone is "masculine" and has that raw dominant strong sexual power..

    You should walk away from that film feeling as if you want to wrestle and stab a bear in the fcukn' face..

    Also important to be aware of and notice.., is the interaction between the female supporting actress and Brad Pitt.. Notice how she tries to get him emotional.., how she tries to connect.., but there's nobody home.. When she doesn't find the emotion she's looking for.., she's only left with "hope"..

    It's quite honestly.., the perfect movie to demonstrate the two qualities.., strong and sensitive.., that are an important part of you..

    Up until now.., you've been spending most of your time and energy into focusing on how to be a great guy.., how to be a great boyfriend.., a great husband.., a great man.., caring.., sensitive.., considerate.., loving.. Which is all good.. It really really is.., and you don't have to delete all those things or toss any of them away.. The only thing you have to realize.., especially after watching that film.., is that while you've most certainly cultivated the sensitive aspect to your character.., you've completely ignored the "strong" aspect to your character.. You haven't invested enough time and energy to focus on understanding your own sexuality.., your dominant presence.., your strong composure.., your masculine sexual power.. You are without a doubt well-developed in the sensitivity department.., but you must admit that it's time to start cultivating your inner personal strength and start being aware of your masculine sexuality now..

    The moral of the film is.., don't fcukn' take on a grizzly bear with just a knife.., it will own you..

    But beyond that.., the most valuable thing to take away from it.., is how to be both brothers.. How to find the right balance for yourself.., and combine both qualities into the same character..

    Think of it this way.., how many girls have you met that are cute.., gorgeous even.., smart.., fun.., amazing people.., really nice.., sweet and genuine.., just full of life.., but they're not at all sexy.. In fact.., how many girl have you seen.., that you can say are really sexy or know how to be sexy? Considering the wealth of information that's available to women in developing their sexuality.., it's actually quite sad that ALL women aren't sexy.. But you know what sexy looks like in a woman.. You know how you feel when you see that quality in a woman.. You know how she makes you feel inside.. Paralyzed.., at awe.., intoxicated.., hypnotized.., thought stops.., all that's left is a keen sense of awareness and appreciation for her sexuality..

    Well.., think about that for a second.. Remember.., boys and girls are the same animal.. We're all people.. Some are white.., some are black.., some are male.., some are female.., but all people.., with similar thoughts and feelings.. You just happened to be male.., but if you were female.., and strait.., you know what that masculine sexual power looks like when you see it.. You know how it makes you feel inside.. You're quite aware of exactly how paralyzed you are.., not able to move or think.., dirty thoughts race through your mind.., hard to control yourself.., from him.., hard to not appreciate him.., forcing you to flirt between self-control and temptation.., your only wish.., that he'd want to push you through that fine line.., let go of all control.., and just surrender completely to his power.. Not to his box of chocolates.., flowers.., or profession of his undying love for her..
    I'll see how to build it up. It's a bit embarrasing, emasculating even, to "know" I'm lacking in the seduction department. Sometimes I'm led to believe this is an innate quality.

    If you can, drop by my thread in the "Broken Hearts" section - it'll give you an idea of what I had to cope with last night and a small insight into my adversary in the battle for the girl I love.

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    It doesn't sound like much of a battle Arrow. Part of winning women is learning to cop rejection on the chin and move on.
    Is it burnin'? Well, f-ck, now you're learnin'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Boy II View Post
    It doesn't sound like much of a battle Arrow. Part of winning women is learning to cop rejection on the chin and move on.
    It would be nice to win WOMEN but I want to win THAT WOMAN...

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    Well you're NOT GOING TO. So suck it up.
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    I don't think anyone should be encouraging you at this point, Arrow. Your other thread about this girl creeped me out, and I think you could be potentially dangerous.
    Relax... I'll need some information first. Just the basic facts - can you show me where it hurts?

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