who wrote the Bible?

[12many]

i had a nasty discussion at work with a lady that goes to a Spiritual Center that believes in both the Bible and evolution. so i asked her who wrote the Bible, to which she explained that many people wrote it and then pieced it together into one book.

haha i argued about that same thing and more with someone at work today.


we argued

1. who wrote the bible
2. is adam and eve their real names
3. science, evolution, adam and eve
4. is god true?
- no one has seen god except from whats writtin in the bible.
- what does god look like and why does he have to be white and with a beard?
- who REALLY created the world.

we decided that its people's beliefs, faiths, evidence (science, evolution) that make up these stuff.

[vashti]

Allegedly there has been a selection of "suitable" and "unsuitable" copies of the bible to ensure that it is the same or close to the same as the original, instead of being tampered with for other purposes.

There are significant differences in translation between the Christian translations and the Hebrew. For example, the word used to supposedly predict the pending birth of Jesus (almah) is translated to "virgin" in Christian translations, whereas in the Hebrew, the word is used to describe a young, unmarried woman. Also, the way god is frequently referred to in the bible (in Hebrew) is actually pluralized (Elohim = gods), but you will not ever see it translated that way.

My point is, the bible has definitely been tampered with for other purposes. In fact, I consider the entire New Testament as nothing more than propaganda meant to promote a new religion while discrediting a preexisting one.

And secondly that the bible should always be considered sort of poetic and up to interpretation rather than stating absolute fact (which sort of conflicts with what I mentioned at first), which is why the 7 days are interpreted as "7 days for god". And essentially it is this wishy-washyness that allows for these interpretations to be molded to fit and remain whenever the scriptures are proven wrong or immoral.

I agree with you here. I don't know why people are inclined to believe the bible is a history book; to me the Hebrew portion has always been meant as a book of fables that reflect the time in history in which they were written.

[Lipp]

My point is, the bible has definitely been tampered with for other purposes. In fact, I consider the entire New Testament as nothing more than propaganda meant to promote a new religion while discrediting a preexisting one.

I agree with you here. I don't know why people are inclined to believe the bible is a history book; to me the Hebrew portion has always been meant as a book of fables that reflect the time in history in which they were written.

Just to clarify, what I wrote is what the pastor said, and not what I believe myself.

The problem I have with the bible is how people claim absolute truth from something that is poetic and up for personal interpretation. It just doesn't make sense. I'd far sooner trust a history book.

[Illusional]

what if i said that i didn't write the bible, but i help make it into an online version.

raverboy

[Yggdrasil]

Ok.. ok.. I'll let out the secret.

I wrote the bible..

Yes, I did it.. Don't look so surprised.. I'll even explain why I did it and how made this ellaborate hoax come true.

I wrote the entire thing, from start to finish. It took me 23 years.

My reason was to trick mankind into thinking there was some invisible, all powerfull being in the universe.

At the time, it sounded like a great joke, so yeah... I wrote the book.

Then I used the time machine I invented and build and flashed myself back to 2500 BC and spread multiple copies around.

I am serious... I mean.. you guys have heard about ghosts, paranormal phenomena and all that stuff, right?

And no.. I can't prove it.. I destroyed the time machine after I returned to the present time and the original copies are long gone.

You'll just have to take my word for it.

[Illusional]

it's funny because i claim the same thing.

what a coincidence.

raverboy

[IndiReloaded]

You are both egomanics, cut from the same cloth. One drunk, one dry. LOL.

[Illusional]

oooooooh.. does that mean i'm a wet one??

raverboy

[Mish]

Atheism isn't a group, really, and I hate to turn it into one. The more I think about it the more I realize it's best to leave things as they are. Religion is in its death throes. I want to speed that up, but maybe the best thing to do is just to sit back and let things run their course.

Religion is actually not in death throes. The vast majority of people on this planet are Religious and their numbers are growing (not declining). Atheists in the west are hardly growing in numbers but are more routed away from traditional Christianity and into an array of a whole host of other faiths which are compatible with their personalities. A lot of people seem to have some kind of a natural resistance to lack of beliefs. They want to believe. Maybe, it makes life more enjoyable.

[Yggdrasil]

it's funny because i claim the same thing.

what a coincidence.

raverboy

Copycat ... I WAS FIRST. Therefore my claim is the original one.

[Illusional]

no you didn't, i just edited your post... muhahaha

raverboy

[Yggdrasil]

no you didn't, i just edited your post... muhahaha

raverboy

plagiarist.

[Gribble]

Religion is actually not in death throes. The vast majority of people on this planet are Religious and their numbers are growing (not declining). Atheists in the west are hardly growing in numbers but are more routed away from traditional Christianity and into an array of a whole host of other faiths which are compatible with their personalities. A lot of people seem to have some kind of a natural resistance to lack of beliefs. They want to believe. Maybe, it makes life more enjoyable.

A man might call himself a Christian but he doesn't think twice about having sex out of wedlock. He doesn't go to church. He doesn't pray. He's never read the bible. Is he really a Christian? I think not.

Religion is dying and it's a beautiful thing.

[vashti]

A man might call himself a Christian but he doesn't think twice about having sex out of wedlock. He doesn't go to church. He doesn't pray. He's never read the bible. Is he really a Christian? I think not.

But those things aren't required to make a person Christian! All they have to do is believe in Jesus, and they are saved - even if they are serial killers. I think that is about 95% of Christianity's appeal.

[misombra]

the funniest thing happened today. my sister (who is one of those holier than thou christians) and i took my father out to a seafood restaurant. my dad ordered shrimp. he asked if i wanted some and i said, "god hates shrimp."

my sister starts in with this thing about how i don't believe in god and all that. i told her that i clearly do, and i am clearly obeying his word because i refuse to eat shrimp that god hates.

well i had some anyway.

then later when we were leaving he pulls this shirt out of his car and gives it to me. ( i don't know why. joke i assume.) it says "one drop of jesus' blood and my sins were forgiven" and it had blood lookin paint splattered on it lol.

then i told them that my sin of eating shrimp was forgiven.

aaaaaaaajkajakjaaaa. it was funny at the time.