In Praise of Traditional Women

[Mish]

That sort of contradicts everything you said about the non-traditional women though. If they spent so much time trying to better themselves what kind of man wouldn't respect that kind of woman? Some women just need motivation, how do you know that you weren't the motivation? I guess I'm trying to figure out why a non-traditional woman, spending time trying to resolve her issues is a turn off.

They don't try to better themselves, that's the thing. They just complain about the world and then buy themselves presents to make themselves feel better. Like two of my exs, they didn't actually try to resolve their issues they just complained about them and encouraged others to feel sorry for them for all of their "suffering".

Let me tell you about the "suffering" of one of my exs

- She earned 65K a year
- She lived with her parents without paying anything
- Her parents cooked for her, cleaned for her and treated her like a princess for which she yelled at them and didn't respect them at all
- She always complained how she never had nay money (What?)
- She always complained about how she can't find herself or her place in the world
- She couldn't find common language with people and she DEMANDED to be accepted by others even though she couldn't accept them
- She talked about a bleak future she sees for herself
- Everything new was scary, suspicious and a chore

She is just one of a dozen western girls that I've known who "suffers" in the similar conditions

Now contrast that to a girl I've been with from a traditional culture

- Lives by herself without any support systems (family is back home)
- Gets limited amount of money and is forced to ration her resources
- Doesn't know many people, but makes new friends quickly because she manages to find common language with them quite easily
- Calm, collected, intelligent and always accepting of new circumstances
- High respect for her parents and families in general
- Has intuitive understanding of the world around her and accepts her station and place in the world
- Treats people with respect even if they don't deserve it and assumes the best about people until proven otherwise
- Everything new is a source of excitement, interest and exploration

And she is one of many traditional girls who behave in this manner. So what do you do when you continuously see people fill the same criteria. You start to favour one group over the other.

[CocoChanel]

Why aren't you with this traditional girl anymore. She had everything you wanted.

[Mish]

Why aren't you with this traditional girl anymore. She had everything you wanted.

I am with her

[CocoChanel]

Ugh, You are confusing.
You said a girl you've been with.
Not a girl that you are with now.

[Mish]

Spelling mistake, sorry

[CocoChanel]

It's okay. Well it's good that you have what you want.
Sucks that any woman outside of "traditional" is a no*no because of your ex.

[Mish]

It's not just my ex and they are not a no-no, I've dated a lot of them after the breakup, but they fit into this same strange pattern of similar kind of "suffering" and just general coldness and lack of responsibility. Actually, my ex was one of the better examples who was at least respect worthy for the fact that she tried to get better compared to some of the other western women I dated after her.

[ecojeanne]

i think a lot what you say is right mish, so many people i've known present and past get away with shite because they have 'suffered'. that includes men btw. my ex was a sufferer and unfortunately at the time i fell for his shit. it's all bullshit and in the end we figure it out but disgustingly no-one else around them does and they continue to manipulate people. just look at those reality shows for goodness sake! everyone loves to listen to a sob story to humanise the person. pop idol, americas next top model and so many hundreds more. the media encourage this bullshit.

[IndiReloaded]

I just wish you ladies would learn to cook. Goddamn, do I have to do everything?

Oi. I cook well (its just simple chemistry). I confess, after I got married I developed a sense of pride in filling my sons requests for various dishes I make. Must be something primally satisfying about feeding one's family. He's also very appreciative and polite, which is nice.

Anyway, you don't have to do everything, Grib. But if I cook, then you'd better be good at plumbing and drywall. A day of my cooking is worth at least a sink replumbing.

[Charlie Boy II]

this thread is some bullllshit.

1. Intelligent
2. Funny
3. Hot.

[Mish]

this thread is some bullllshit.

1. Intelligent
2. Funny
3. Hot.

What about selfish, depressing, spiteful, disrespectful and mind shattering on top of that? How long could you handle it or tolerate it?

[IndiReloaded]

this thread is some bullllshit.

1. Intelligent
2. Funny
3. Hot.

Is this your list for dates 1 - 3, CB?

[Junket]

What about selfish, depressing, spiteful, disrespectful and mind shattering on top of that? How long could you handle it or tolerate it?

You've just managed to date the wrong women.

It has little to do with being "traditional".

[Mish]

I dated women from all walks of life from all kinds of different places, funny how such a diverse variety united only by the banner of being born in the west turned out to be "wrong"


But, I hope you're right

[Charlie Boy II]

your problem Mish, is you shoot your load over the relationship way too early. And then you get bitter when they don't measure up.