+ Follow This Topic
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 19

Thread: Passing

  1. #1
    Gribble's Avatar
    Gribble is offline Love Gurus
    Country:
    Users Country Flag
    "Hot Love Pancake(s)"
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    All over the damn place.
    Posts
    3,658

    Passing

    Growing up my parents never really gave a damn about me. My dad was only aware of my existence when he was pissed and needed someone to yell at. My mom, hell, she didn't even notice me then. Sucks, but a lot of kids go through that or worse. I did a lot of reading when I was a boy. A lot. Mostly rubbish.

    One day while perusing the library I picked up a detective novel. A slim little volume called the Gudwulf Manuscript. It featured the wisecracking, tough on the outside, soft on the inside private eye, Spenser. That's with an S. Like the poet. I read that book cover to cover. Then I picked up the next in the series, and the next, and the next and so on.

    In a way, Spenser became my surrogate father. When he took a boy about my age under his wing I hung on his every word of advice. I attribute that character, and by extension the author, Robert B. Parker, with teaching me what it is to be a man. I don't know what I'd be without them.

    I always meant to meet Mr. Parker some day. At a book reading, perhaps. I doubt I'd have had the courage to admit the above to him, but I sure would have liked to shake his hand.

    He died two days after my last birthday and I didn't even know it. Lame as it sounds, it kinda hurts. When life decides to take I shit on me I always reach for a Spenser novel, and it always clears my head, keeps me going when I feel like shouting **** you to the world. Now there won't be another one. No more fatherly advice. No more role model.
    God, so atrocious in the Old Testament, so attractive in the New--the Jekyl and Hyde of sacred romance.
    -Mark Twain

    If people are good only because they fear punishment and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed.
    -Albert Einstein

  2. #2
    vashti's Avatar
    vashti is offline Hot love muffin guru
    Country:
    Users Country Flag
    "Hot Love Pancake(s)"
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Gender
    Female
    Posts
    22,890
    What a genuinely fascinating insight...

    Quote Originally Posted by Gribble View Post

    One day while perusing the library I picked up a detective novel. A slim little volume called the Gudwulf Manuscript. It featured the wisecracking, tough on the outside, soft on the inside private eye, Spenser. That's with an S. Like the poet. I read that book cover to cover. Then I picked up the next in the series, and the next, and the next and so on.
    Funny, but THAT is how I see you. Except for the private eye, of course.

    It's sad that you were left to find a character in a book as a role model. Those of us who were unlucky in the parent department get the opportunity to recreate the parent-child relationship, and can heal old wounds by establishing a better bond with our own children (when we have them). When they are young, it sometimes hurts to know how inadequate our own parents were, but as your own children get older, the pain diminishes somewhat, along with the anger.

    I'm sorry you are sad.
    Last edited by vashti; 24-04-10 at 06:02 AM.
    Relax... I'll need some information first. Just the basic facts - can you show me where it hurts?

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Gender
    Female
    Location
    Seattle
    Posts
    16,935
    What do you mean, no more role model? Did all of his books vanish? Gribble, this is WHY people write, so that they will never die.

    Re-read the whole series and grieve for the man. I'm glad you found someone to be a surrogate that wasn't a thug or a fool.
    Spammer Spanker

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    Aussie Aussie Aussie
    Posts
    7,061
    You know when I was growing up I always thought I was the only one who had a problem with his dad, now the more I see the more I understand how common this is.


    Don't cry, don't regret and don't blame
    Weak find the whip, willing find freedom
    Towards the sun, carry your name
    In warm hands you are given
    Ask the wind for the way
    Uncertainty's gone, your path will unravel
    Accept all as it is and do not blame
    God or the Devil
    ~Born to Live - Mavrik~

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Posts
    4,676
    That's kind of how I felt about George Carlin. I bought all his books when he died.

  6. #6
    IndiReloaded's Avatar
    IndiReloaded is offline Yawning
    Country:
    Users Country Flag
    "Hot Love Pancake(s)"
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Gender
    Female
    Posts
    15,081
    I always keep in mind that Gribble is a writer....

    One thing this post made me think about is how you can infer quite a bit about someone by their library. Or at least the books they've read.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Posts
    4,676
    Not only the books they read, but the questions they ask, as well as the answers they seek. It's all in the rhetoric.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Gender
    Female
    Location
    Brooklyn, NY
    Posts
    1,811
    Quote Originally Posted by IndiReloaded View Post
    I always keep in mind that Gribble is a writer....

    One thing this post made me think about is how you can infer quite a bit about someone by their library. Or at least the books they've read.
    I didn't know Gribble was a writer. His posts are well written so it makes sense.

    Gribble, maybe someday you could write something inspired by him. Maybe he can't write anymore books, but you can.

    I felt pretty sad at David Foster Wallace's passing. I know he had his critics and alot of people thought his footnotes were gimmicky, but I was a big fan.
    “Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist”--George Carlin

  9. #9
    IndiReloaded's Avatar
    IndiReloaded is offline Yawning
    Country:
    Users Country Flag
    "Hot Love Pancake(s)"
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Gender
    Female
    Posts
    15,081
    Quote Originally Posted by doppelgaenger View Post
    Not only the books they read, but the questions they ask, as well as the answers they seek. It's all in the rhetoric.
    LOL, okay Dopple, if you say so.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    Indiana, U.S.
    Posts
    1,766
    I am really sorry but at the same time I am glad I know people in your same situation. I have so many friends with awful parents that it makes me realize how great mine are and that they should not be taken for granted.

    I am glad you found somebody to be a role model for you and show you how to be a man as you said. I think that is problem with a lot of guys my age. They don't seem to understand what it means to be a man and what is expected of them.

    My dad is the greatest man I know, I'm not saying he is perfect...he has his problems but what makes my dad a great man is that he wants me to be a better man than he is and he has always pushed me in that direction.

    A lot of parents compete with their children and don't want them to be better....it is expected of me.

    I am sorry you did not have very good parents but as Vashti said, keep all of that in mind and raise your children to think of you the way I think of my father....so in a way your parents being bad parents will make you a better father....if that helps at all.
    Completely baffled by a backward indication
    That an inspired word will come across your tongue
    Hands moving upward to propel the situation
    Have simply halted
    And now the conversation's done


    I am the EgGmAn

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Posts
    4,676
    Quote Originally Posted by IndiReloaded View Post
    LOL, okay Dopple, if you say so.
    What's with your attitude? Don't you look for answers in the books you read, or do you just read for pure enjoyment?

  12. #12
    IndiReloaded's Avatar
    IndiReloaded is offline Yawning
    Country:
    Users Country Flag
    "Hot Love Pancake(s)"
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Gender
    Female
    Posts
    15,081
    Quote Originally Posted by doppelgaenger View Post
    What's with your attitude? Don't you look for answers in the books you read, or do you just read for pure enjoyment?
    Are those the only options you can think of?

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Posts
    4,676
    Condescending bitch.

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Posts
    1,313
    I'd have used "opportunistic bitch" in lovingly way, myself.

  15. #15
    IndiReloaded's Avatar
    IndiReloaded is offline Yawning
    Country:
    Users Country Flag
    "Hot Love Pancake(s)"
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Gender
    Female
    Posts
    15,081
    Quote Originally Posted by doppelgaenger View Post
    Condescending bitch.
    No, I'm just not going to do your thinking for you. Stop being such a brat about it.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Some passing thoughts on roles in relationship
    By Mish in forum Love Advice forum
    Replies: 91
    Last Post: 23-03-08, 07:27 AM
  2. Time is passing by...
    By Crammond in forum Broken Hearts Forum
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 24-12-04, 05:41 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •