How do you know when you're in the "Friend Zone"

**Weirdfish-jr** · 29-01-11, 10:06 PM

A lot of people talk about the friend zone and it seems to be one of the main reasons for two people who like each other a lot to not go out. I have to say I'm pretty useless when it comes to girls and dating; and I have been turned down because of being too friendly but that's who I am, I'm a friendly person.

Everyone warns me that I should avoid the friend zone but honestly how can you tell whether you're in it or not?

**twinrexes** · 29-01-11, 10:40 PM

If you even have to ask the question, you're in it. If you've been turned down for being too friendly, you've been in it before. You should google the term "alpha male", I think you'll get a lot of advice about how to be the kind of jerk women love, lol!

**MynameisJesus** · 29-01-11, 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by Weirdfish-jr

I have been turned down because of being too friendly but that's who I am, I'm a friendly person.

I have been friendly too. It is not who I am, it is a mask I wear to make sure that people like me. That is unattractive and I'm quite sure that's your issue.
Being friendly is not a quality, it is a way to ignore your fear of telling people what you really think. Which is that you disagree with them. But you don't say so because you are afraid of making a bad impression.

There are hundreds of threads about friend zone on this forum. Some people are starting to get enough of it.

I suggest you look at the last 100 threads in love advice and "ask a female" and you will find tons of info about it.

This video here taught me a lot. It is a must watch in order to understand what is wrong

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY3yC4Z8sqE]YouTube - Kezia PUA female trainer[/url]

You are most likely the guy at 3:20

**Emerald_Dreams** · 29-01-11, 10:44 PM

I suggest you look at the last 100 threads in love advice and "ask a female" and you will find tons of info about it.

Never take dating advice from a female. It is usually wrong.

**xxazurexx** · 29-01-11, 10:46 PM

Nothing to do with being 'friendly'.....harsh truth is, the girls you go for are not physically or sexually attracted to you. That is why you are turned down. The 'you are too friendly' is just an excuse and a reason to turn you down.

**Emerald_Dreams** · 29-01-11, 10:47 PM

Nothing to do with being 'friendly'.....harsh truth is, the girls you go for are not physically or sexually attracted to you. That is why you are turned down.

The reason they're not attracted is because he's being to "friend"ly.

**xxazurexx** · 29-01-11, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by Emerald_Dreams

The reason they're not attracted is because he's being to "friend"ly.

And I said it was CRAP!

**Emerald_Dreams** · 29-01-11, 10:56 PM

It's not.

Women don't choose their mates based on physical appearance. Physical attraction is such a minor part of it for women. I've seen completely handsome, studly men completely fail to pull. I'm only 5'6" and I don't consider myself handsome, but I have ninja'd pulls from men much taller and more handsome than myself.

If you come off as being a "friend" or "friendly" or "a nice guy", women will not be attracted to you because you'll fail to cultivate attraction. You have to let your intentions be known early and take the lead. If you are "friendly" and let her control the situation you will not get laid or a date, period.

**MynameisJesus** · 29-01-11, 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by Emerald_Dreams

Never take dating advice from a female. It is usually wrong.

Because most women don't say what they really think in real life. They play games with you to get your attention
They hardly admit they're attracted to a macho monkey to themselves, so why would they admit it to someone else?
On this forum however I have met quite some women who clarify what women often think.
No man is capable of telling what women think. You come to realize it by your own experiences, take a good look around and see with what type of men most attractive women are dating.
If you match your ideas to most reflections of women on this forum (xxazurexx being one of the exceptions who can fall for a friend, which is perfectly fine), it makes perfect sense

**xxazurexx** · 29-01-11, 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by Emerald_Dreams

It's not.

Women don't choose their mates based on physical appearance. .

True, females don't just choose their mates based on 'physical attraction. It runs far deeper than the physical.

But the 'physical' is what gets you noticed and INITIALLY......

If I am not physically attracted, there is usually no desire to want to get to know a guy further.

If I am physically attracted, then I would want to get to know you further and to see if there was more than a 'physical' attraction. If there is nothing further, or we don't 'click' in other ways, then a physical attraction alone won't seal a relationship with me....

Sorry, but I just don't the crap that men are friendzoned and because they act like a friend or are friendly....

If I am attracted to a guy, I like that we can be friends and that he is a friendly person. That is what I want in a mate....a man who can be my lover and also my 'best friend'.

The only time you will go in the friendzone with me, is if a physical and sexual attraction is lacking....or you are an arsehole.

Maybe I'm just different to other women...

**xxazurexx** · 29-01-11, 11:20 PM

Originally Posted by mynameisjesus

no man is capable of telling what women think

exactly!!!

**seganomics** · 29-01-11, 11:23 PM

Originally Posted by Emerald_Dreams

If you come off as being a "friend" or "friendly" or "a nice guy", women will not be attracted to you because you'll fail to cultivate attraction. You have to let your intentions be known early and take the lead. If you are "friendly" and let her control the situation you will not get laid or a date, period.

I don't think that's true. All my life I've been looking for what I think are 'nice guys'. The guy I'm attracted to now is incredibly nice, but yet I got thrown in the friendzone as well.

Girls who don't respect themselves are attracted to men who don't respect them. If a girl is confidient and comfortable with herself she wants a man who is going to treat her the same way... not like garbage.

**Emerald_Dreams** · 29-01-11, 11:34 PM

Yeah yeah. ITT girls are telling me Game doesn't work when it does. lol

Sorry, but I just don't the crap that men are friendzoned and because they act like a friend or are friendly....

Well, sorry. But it's true.

**xxazurexx** · 29-01-11, 11:43 PM

Originally Posted by seganomics

I don't think that's true. All my life I've been looking for what I think are 'nice guys'. The guy I'm attracted to now is incredibly nice, but yet I got thrown in the friendzone as well.

Same here hon, so I know how you are feeling

**Emerald_Dreams** · 29-01-11, 11:53 PM

*shakes head* Wow, seriously, you are providing a perfect example of what I'm talking about, both of you.

You say you want a "nice guy". You find a "nice guy" who acts "friendly". Now you think you're in the friend zone because he acts nice and friendly. What was I just saying about men who act too nice or friendly? They don't cultivate attraction. lolol

Thanks.

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