What do men in relationships really think when watching porn?

[Katmeow85]

Kat your problem isn't porn. Your problem is your guy has somehow lost his emotional connection with you. You guys need to get away for a power weekend of romance and seduction and intimate conversations with one another. Porn is the last of your worries.

We have a kid so it is really hard to do. Plus not alot of money. We are ok. Not like he completely ignores me. It is the sex we are missing out on not the other important stuff inbetween.

[Wakeup]

I tried watching that series and found it boring....should have stuck with it lol.

Check it out in re-runs. Some really raunchy stuff goes on in that show. Really raunchy for a non-porn production.

We have a kid so it is really hard to do. Plus not alot of money. We are ok. Not like he completely ignores me. It is the sex we are missing out on not the other important stuff inbetween.

Get a family member to baby-sit and get some one-on-one time going with your guy. I think if he can see you as "wife" again instead of "just a mom" you may get yur stud back... at least until you both get lazy in your game once again anyway.

[Katmeow85]

Check it out in re-runs. Some really raunchy stuff goes on in that show. Really raunchy for a non-porn production.

Get a family member to baby-sit and get some one-on-one time going with your guy. I think if he can see you as "wife" again instead of "just a mom" you may get yur stud back... at least until you both get lazy in your game once again anyway.

I have no family where I live and his mum and dad are always busy or on holiday. When we do have a night off we don't have sex we go out partying all night. I'd like to do the sex thing but its like we never have any time. If we had two-three nights off we could do more.

[DannyH]

Remember it's us women who decide if and when men will get sex, hence the reason for prostitution.

Thinking like this causes guys like ctr to go on the whole level the playing field speech. it's actually a 2 way street for sex too.

Katie Morgan's porn101 was a show on the history of porn. Was actually a pretty cool show

[Katmeow85]

That's not true. Wanting a relationship is a two way street...look at the majority of nice guy posts, wanting a relationship with a girl that is using them as their emotional tampon and getting rejected after. Remember it's us women who decide if and when men will get sex, hence the reason for prostitution.

No both men and women together decide whether or not to have sex. It isn't one sided or you'd never get any or it'd be rape.

[ctr916]

Yes, I suppose you think me a liar and you are entitled to normal knowledge and why do people deny you?

I am only "entitled" to the extent I am willing to discover truth value through argumentation, even if in the most platonic of fashions. I am not claiming people I argue with are denying me that "privilege and immunity", it is you that makes that unsubstantiated claim while resorting to fallacies.

Why is it that some women make me believe I could be more holy and moral by simply praying for true love and performing true love rituals, at a temple to Aphrodite; while a chick that claims to want a relationship waits for me in the vestibule.

[ctr916]

What did men do before the information age and what did these women do?

It depends on what Age or period you are referring to according to our historical record; for example, in the Age of Chivalry, guys would wear shining suits of armor and hire chastity belt makers, in the name of Chivalry. They also held Courts of Love that had more to do with forms of adultery than with forms of monogamy.

[ctr916]

I never said porn was used for badness or is bad. I don't mind porn. It is how it effects me when I know my bf watches it that upsets me and he knows it upsets me. That is what hurts. He knows it upsets me yet he still will do it. It is like my feelings really don't matter.

I just wanted to know why men use it and what is going through their heads. Also if it means they don't find their gfs as attractive as the porn stars.

Also I believe you can learn some techniques from porn but you can't really know what works unless you are practicing on a live women as she can tell you whether it is doing anything for her or not. Also every woman is different. What works for one may not necessarily work for another.

In my opinion, it depends on the "gamesmanship" and "gameswomanship" involved. Many women resort to special pleading and blame guys when it is convenient to do so. I am not claiming you are one of them, but forms of "victimization" could be just another ploy to "manipulate" men when women really don't have a problem with it, except that a guy can look at other cute women who are willing to take their clothes off "for us", any time we want.

[ctr916]

That's not true. Wanting a relationship is a two way street...look at the majority of nice guy posts, wanting a relationship with a girl that is using them as their emotional tampon and getting rejected after. Remember it's us women who decide if and when men will get sex, hence the reason for prostitution.

Thank you for being upfront about it. In my opinion, most guys would rather be used for sex instead of relationships whenever possible; and, from that perspective, could find women are being disingenuous when engaging in forms of sexual "monopolism" or sexual "prohibition" when the reverse is usually not true for them.

Consider the analogy to monopolies in Commerce and anti-trust forms of legislation to correct for that lack of giving the "customer" what they could be getting, but for that lack of "competition" because it does not usually lead to "better products at lower prices", simply because of the social transaction costs involved for men in obtaining those "products and services" from other women; whenever money is not involved.

[Katmeow85]

In my opinion, it depends on the "gamesmanship" and "gameswomanship" involved. Many women resort to special pleading and blame guys when it is convenient to do so. I am not claiming you are one of them, but forms of "victimization" could be just another ploy to "manipulate" men when women really don't have a problem with it, except that a guy can look at other cute women who are willing to take their clothes off "for us", any time we want.

What do you mean by special pleading?

Are you saying women arent willing to take off their clothes for their man when the man wants it?

[DannyH]

You know what its not even worth it.

[Katmeow85]

You know what its not even worth it.

Tell me about it

[tremolo]

You know what its not even worth it.

Yeah, man I gave up awhile ago.

[ctr916]

What do you mean by special pleading?

Are you saying women arent willing to take off their clothes for their man when the man wants it?

I will try to keep it "worth it" for the sake of argument. Usually, it refers to omitting some facts that tell "the rest of the story".

[ctr916]

Have we all agreed that porn, in and of itself, is not the problem?