Why do guys watch porn when they have a gf? And why does it upset gf? :O

[vashti]

Porn is the difference between: Exclusive, exquisite quality in a lover(One who doesn't need a Hollywood script for ideas, and prefers to invent what a woman needs on the job, according to her unique desires, or EVEN devined by her unfeigned sighs of total satisfaction...).... and a supermarket slob with a dog eared manual, alias,' The Porno Special', recommended by his mate's at the boozer, as a 'best buzz, sure bet', for the brain dead and sensually challenged yobo in the wham bam, thanku Mam mentality bracket.

Yeah, mate, Whatever turns you on, that's your privelege, but let's leave it in the gutter where it belongs!Andlet the wee willie wankers refrain from... choke...vomit...elevating their deficiencies to an ART FORM! Orexpecting their girlfriends to be 'understanding' about their 'need for variety' when they have been subjecting women to inadequate stimulation of their sensual zones (which get interpreted in the brain.. )for centuries. And now they want an actor to do it for them! God help them! it's SLACK gentlemen! LAZY! We have test tubes and cloning on the rise, If you don't want to become redundant altogether, better lift your game!

Hah! You're funny.

That's fine. We need to decrease our global population anyway.

As the mother of a girl who ALREADY has friends dealing with impotence at the age of 18-20, I feel REALLY sorry for young women. Their male counterparts really ARE becoming redundant.

[DoesntMatter]

As the mother of a girl who ALREADY has friends dealing with impotence at the age of 18-20, I feel REALLY sorry for young women. Their male counterparts really ARE becoming redundant.

Don't knock it till you've tried it

[romantic_guy]

A couple of observations:

My comment about men who choose porn over their lover comes from the understand that these men find it easier to take care of it themselves rather than go through all it would take to make love (foreplay, getting her in the mood, doing all it takes to give her an orgasm, etc.). IF that is the case, I feel these men are selfish lovers.

It has been stated that porn causes impotence. I am not sure bout that, but it can desensitize you. It can take more and more stimulus to achieve the same level of arousal. That is not true for everyone, but it does happen. For a sex addict it is much like drugs in that it takes more and more to get the same high.

For me, there is nothing like pleasing my wife and seeing and hearing her orgasm. I LOVE foreplay and could take hours at love-play. I just don't understand guys who don't. And the older I get, the longer it takes for "recovery" so I find that I want to "save it" for her so I don't masturbate as much as I used to.

As already stated, everything on here is opinion, but all forums are like that. For me, the discussion is interesting as is gaining new insight and understanding.

[vashti]

I've seen a couple of people say "it's a matter of opinion", but the link I posted about the link between porn and impotence was NOT an opinion. Rather, it was the result of an actual study.

[DoesntMatter]

I've seen a couple of people say "it's a matter of opinion", but the link I posted about the link between porn and impotence was NOT an opinion. Rather, it was the result of an actual study.

What they probably mean to say is, not all men in their early 20s or whatever are impotent because they watched too much porn. I'm definitely not impotent.

[Yet another guy]

I've seen a couple of people say "it's a matter of opinion", but the link I posted about the link between porn and impotence was NOT an opinion. Rather, it was the result of an actual study.

Do you have link to the actual study?

[smackie9]

I don't think occasion to moderate use of porn makes guys impotent, but an obsessive use of porn to obsessively masturbate ya I can see it. Obsessive masturbation isn't cause by watching porn tho, but can be a symptom of a mental disorder like OCD or addiction.

[vashti]

Do you have link to the actual study?

I am not able to to find the original study except on a medical site you need to be a member of in order to access, but the study is cited all over the internet. You can click the link I posted earlier, or look for the original yourself - maybe you can find it in your native language. The researcher is University of Padua urologist Carlo Foresta.

I don't think occasion to moderate use of porn makes guys impotent, but an obsessive use of porn to obsessively masturbate ya I can see it. Obsessive masturbation isn't cause by watching porn tho, but can be a symptom of a mental disorder like OCD or addiction.

I don't believe in sex addiction, or porn addiction, but I DO believe in lack of self-control.

[smackie9]

Symptoms
While each addiction has its own set of physical, mental and emotional problems, many addictions have common symptoms. "Addiction can lead to a lack of self-control" resulting in an addict struggling to manage their" behaviour, activity" or use of the substance. An addiction also causes impairment and the addict is unable to see any harm in their actions, or if they do, they're unable to stop themselves.

As an addiction develops, a person's tolerance to a substance or "behaviour" increases leading them to want more of it and their attachment grows stronger meaning the dependency is impossible to break. Finally, when the cause of the addiction is removed, withdrawal symptoms are triggered that manifest in a negative physical or emotional response.

[KingZ]

Huh. Vashti is a bigger idiot than I thought.

[vashti]

Huh. Vashti is a bigger idiot than I thought.

Defensive about your porn habit?

[Yet another guy]

I am not able to to find the original study except on a medical site you need to be a member of in order to access, but the study is cited all over the internet. You can click the link I posted earlier, or look for the original yourself - maybe you can find it in your native language. The researcher is University of Padua urologist Carlo Foresta.

Could you please give the link to the article at the medical site, I want to see if the library of my university subscribes it. I tried to look for it through google scholar and the librarys search tool but couldn't find it. With plain old google, I do find crapload of news articles none of which link to the original source. Not even a few Italian ones I found. I also found an Italian website featuring Carlo Foresta and listed articles he has published (presumably only on some specific journal) and it wasn't on that list either.

I think this is a good thing overall. If watching porn really lowers the libido of men like the article says, it might be possible that it'll lower the average libido of men in general population to a comparable level with women. That'll make the lives of women easier when they no longer are constantly approached by horny guys suggesting sex. It might diminish the demand for prostitution completely. If we'll become impotent as well, maybe there won't be any raping either.

[KingZ]

Copied what I said in a similar thread a couple of months back.
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Okay, look.

Porn+Masturbation = Habitual, minimal time spent for low-effort relief, minor enjoyment, 'mood' is not as important, zero intimacy, privacy is important.

Sex = Spontaneous, takes time and effort, more enjoyable, 'mood' is important, lots of intimacy.

Single, couple or married, guys still tend to watch porn from time to time, and as I clarify above, it's not necessarily because the sex life is insufficient, the two just fulfill needs that only sometimes overlap, and stressful working lives can be serious mood killers.

That should clarify.

Every post you make stems from the obvious fact that you think men are only good for providing you oral—and I have no idea why anyone would, either. You seem to have this "men are dumb and redundant" approach to everything because you view life through a filter of irrationality, emotion, and sexual desperation.

You're forgetting that the man you married is the reason why you aren't currently broke. Every brick you see is there because a man put it there. The only thing you've really done, up until the point you got divorced, was spend your man's hard-earned money.

[Rachel Pierce]

I've seen a couple of people say "it's a matter of opinion", but the link I posted about the link between porn and impotence was NOT an opinion. Rather, it was the result of an actual study.

I could totally believe that, cos they masturbating an everytime they masturbate that's more of their semen down the drain, an if they chronically masturbate, that's prob how why they run outta the stuff an therefore can't have kids no more cos they wasted it all masturbating. That's why I said all masturbation is bad an wrong. It's common sense.

[toshiba]

She can also compare herself to the pictures and think that her man must think that she is not as sexy, beautiful, or desirable...

Just realize that it has nothing to do with him not finding you sexy or that he is not aroused by you.

That's what my GF does. She asks why I don't jerk off thinking about her or looking at pics of her vs. looking at other women on the Internet. Her logic does not support your statement.