Is it too late for me? Career/social life advice needed...

[smackie9]

Yes we can recognize talent, people have been hired right on the spot without any training. The reason they get hired is by their ability to have a professional attitude and accept taking on responsibilities effortlessly. That is what we look for, it's very simple.

What we do doesn't take a rocket scientist, it's just physically demanding at times. We are very proactive with our training and safety BUT you have to have common sense and be able to solve problems by thinking out side of the box.

You guys act like we don't give people a chance...f uckin rights we do. We give people a fair shake if they have the right attitude and show willingness to work hard.

We do hire people through ads placed in the paper, and other agencies, but also word of mouth.....that's how I got hired.

In our industry, you don't go to universities to scout out people, there is no degree for what we do, it's all hands on experience, and training passed on from senior staff. You can also move up to different levels in the company if you are ambitious enough.

[smackie9]

That's part of it. But we live in a part of the world where even $15/16 isn't that great of a wage. Not when the local fast-food chain is starting at $11/12 with no real expectation of investment in that job. So, unless your husband has a way to rapidly advance talent (to at least $20+--remember a lousy secretary at the local uni gets that) then he shouldn't expect to see much loyalty. Good tradesppl here are making $45-60+ an hour as you are well aware. That's just the current economy here. There are ways to adapt one's business model to this reality, btw.

The guys that work for my husband do make more, but it depend on how much of the job they can to on their own without phoning him every 10 mins asking the same questions. But remember 15 to 16 is to start no experience, and if you want to make more you better pull your weight, and learn fast.

And as for trades people, the boss/ manager makes the 65 bucks an hour, not the average trades person. I know many trades people, and company owners....I know what the wages most are making. I know people who run Parklane homes, Paragon, Foxridge.....everyone talks about who is making what. Very few make those kind of wages.

[HeartIsAching]

Gay porn could be a good way to make a quick buck - depending on how much it pays, which I suspect is not much.

I'd make a terrible stud and I doubt many people are going to want to pay to watch me take it in the ass. However, there is no reason for me to want to appear in gay porn in the same way that there is currently no need for me to have to work for people like smakie. (not that he'd have given me a call back anyway - probably had the wrong surname and well all know all people with those sounding sir names are lazy !).

She, supergenius.

[TSA09]

We pay more than 12 bucks an hour and no the on call is just part of the job....two night out of the week and a weekend every 5 weeks I think, you can trade or pay a co-worker to take your on call). If you do work on call by the labour code you are required to make time and a half and double time. If you do a job wearing your full protective gear, that is automatic time and a half if you are working regular time, double time on time and a half, etc. And BTW reatil in part time....we have no part time, it's full time.

What job do you do?

[BoredGeorge]

Retail is harder than labouring.

I doubt they actually pay you for additional hours or on call duties, they'll just say it is all part of the 40 hour weekly pay.

What makes this even better is that it is his freaking wife who has probably never lifted a finger in her life !

Working as girl friday doesn't count as work either, it is basically a holding pen before women get married.

[IndiReloaded]

Retail is harder than labouring.

Ya, all that texting with your friends while paying customers are left to wait at the counter... they must have really sore thumbs at shift's end.

[BoredGeorge]

Ya, all that texting with your friends while paying customers are left to wait at the counter... they must have really sore thumbs at shift's end.

Retail is hardest job ever.

Customers are hard to deal with. Never enough staff on to cover. They have big demands. Always rushing around after products.

Its hard job.

I;'d never do again. Would rather just stack boxes.

[BoredGeorge]

The guys that work for my husband do make more, but it depend on how much of the job they can to on their own without phoning him every 10 mins asking the same questions. But remember 15 to 16 is to start no experience, and if you want to make more you better pull your weight, and learn fast.

And as for trades people, the boss/ manager makes the 65 bucks an hour, not the average trades person. I know many trades people, and company owners....I know what the wages most are making. I know people who run Parklane homes, Paragon, Foxridge.....everyone talks about who is making what. Very few make those kind of wages.

Wait, so these people you're hiring are not even trades people / So wtf has this got to do with youth supposedly not wanting to go into trades ?

[smackie9]

Wait, so these people you're hiring are not even trades people / So wtf has this got to do with youth supposedly not wanting to go into trades ?

My husband and a lot of our friends are in the trades, and they have been saying the same thing...they can't find people willing to work hard even tho they make it easy to enter their trade. I added that even with my industry where we offer the same benefits, and a chance to move into a trade or management they still have a difficult time finding people willing to work hard. Yes we have carpenters, drywallers and painters but that's a small portion of the different types of jobs we offer within our company. The opportunity is there for the taking. But that's ok, they just announced immigrants and people from the eastern provinces are making their way here to pick up the slack from the slackers.

[BoredGeorge]

My husband and a lot of our friends are in the trades, and they have been saying the same thing...they can't find people willing to work hard even tho they make it easy to enter their trade. I added that even with my industry where we offer the same benefits, and a chance to move into a trade or management they still have a difficult time finding people willing to work hard. Yes we have carpenters, drywallers and painters but that's a small portion of the different types of jobs we offer within our company. The opportunity is there for the taking. But that's ok, they just announced immigrants and people from the eastern provinces are making their way here to pick up the slack from the slackers.

Sigh* old people. They'll always be like this.

I'm going to translate :

Your husband is a rich business owner and wants cheap workers. He also wants workers with the best possible return. He thinks he can do better out of immigrants. So he complains about locals. He'd complain about locals because as mentioned above, he wants to make more money. After he has had "hard working immigrants" for a while, he'll start calling them lazy mexicans to try and get more out of them too.

To suggest an entire generation is lazy and does not want highly paid work in an economy with 9.9% unemployment (i'll assume you're from the US) is beyond moronic and entering the delusional.

You expect people to work 12 hours a day without overtime and as hard as they can so that they die young with bodies broken, simply does not happen. In parts of the third world it might, because people are desperate, not because they 'work hard'.

Just another greedy business owner trying to make a buck by exploiting the economy and leaving it in tatters. This has nothing to do with work ethic, or being able to find workers, it is all in the name of making a quick buck.

[smackie9]

No my husband in not a rich business owner, he is a supervisor/manager/installer. He works for the company, not just a pay cheque and believes in customer service. He is on call 24 7. If a job needs to get done, he works late until it does get done. With this work ethic that he has, it's understandable he expects the same out of his employees. He should be making 20 grand more a year, but he likes his boss and the fact that it's a small company. It's him, his boss, a secretary, and two employees. We are Canadian, you don't see mexicans here.

Our economy is near excellent, and didn't get hit like the US. Life is pretty nice here in British Columbia so much so it's the most expensive place to live in Canada. We have strict labor and work safe laws, so yes our workers are paid appropriately and are guaranteed to come home alive every night. Being payed over time and double time is manditory. Most complanies offer medical, dental and retirment savings. The majority of people work 8 hour shifts, and on the occasion is asked to work a few extra hours....with overtime pay. If you are expected to work 12 hour days you get 4 days off. And yes you can tell the attitude of a self entitled generation where they had everything handed to them. Never had to go work to pay for their car, gas or insurance because mommy and daddy covers that. They don't know what it's like to actually be without. Working hard is not slave labour. When I say working hard I mean actually focusing on work and not stop to text a buddy every 5 mins, and to not drag their feet when you ask them to do something.....in fact you shouldn't have to be asked, they should know, especially after 6 months, 2 years, 6 years...... It's not about making a "quick buck" it's about not losing money, and upholding a level of professionalism.


***There is so much work available here you can shake a stick at it.

[IndiReloaded]

Our economy is near excellent, and didn't get hit like the US.

***There is so much work available here you can shake a stick at it.

No, its not. Our economy here in Vancouver is extremely atypical. Vancouver-area has the 2nd highest living cost in the world (Hong Kong was first). The reason is because of an influx of asian money driving up home prices. They are wealthy and don't work. There was just a report: high personal wealth but they arent working. They aren't paying taxes on it either as most is kept overseas.

So, home prices are driven out of line with the working economy which means the typical worker can't find affordable housing, which means they move to Alberta, which means its increasingly hard to find good workers.

A typical double-income academic couples can no longer afford to buy a house anywhere near UBC. If they can't, who can?

That's your problem, Smackie. Even in Surrey, which is a lower-income area, prices are going up. Just look at the developments around Surrey Central.

[BoredGeorge]

No my husband in not a rich business owner, he is a supervisor/manager/installer. He works for the company, not just a pay cheque and believes in customer service. He is on call 24 7. If a job needs to get done, he works late until it does get done. With this work ethic that he has, it's understandable he expects the same out of his employees. He should be making 20 grand more a year, but he likes his boss and the fact that it's a small company. It's him, his boss, a secretary, and two employees. We are Canadian, you don't see mexicans here.

Our economy is near excellent, and didn't get hit like the US. Life is pretty nice here in British Columbia so much so it's the most expensive place to live in Canada. We have strict labor and work safe laws, so yes our workers are paid appropriately and are guaranteed to come home alive every night. Being payed over time and double time is manditory. Most complanies offer medical, dental and retirment savings. The majority of people work 8 hour shifts, and on the occasion is asked to work a few extra hours....with overtime pay. If you are expected to work 12 hour days you get 4 days off. And yes you can tell the attitude of a self entitled generation where they had everything handed to them. Never had to go work to pay for their car, gas or insurance because mommy and daddy covers that. They don't know what it's like to actually be without. Working hard is not slave labour. When I say working hard I mean actually focusing on work and not stop to text a buddy every 5 mins, and to not drag their feet when you ask them to do something.....in fact you shouldn't have to be asked, they should know, especially after 6 months, 2 years, 6 years...... It's not about making a "quick buck" it's about not losing money, and upholding a level of professionalism.


***There is so much work available here you can shake a stick at it.

Paid.

Frankly, a shit job is a shit job. I knew in my life I wanted something better than to be a forklift driver. Thank god I aimed for more. Life is so much more rewarding. Work does not even feel like work to me.

Enjoy providing customer service and make sure you exercise your jaw and floss after "servicing" another customer. lmao.

[smackie9]

Hah funny.......I don't deal with customers. I didn't know that having to work hard was to be a shit job.....goes to show that crap ass attitude lives on.

[BoredGeorge]

Hah funny.......I don't deal with customers. I didn't know that having to work hard was to be a shit job.....goes to show that crap ass attitude lives on.

Because you don't work hard. You just judge others and tell them to do the hard work for you.